Shad in the river

  • crawdaddy
    St. Paul MN
    Posts: 1440
    #1569593

    I snagged a shad last week near south st. paul that was about the size of the palm of your hand(but more oval shaped obviously). I was just wondering how big they can get and will the walleyes eat one of those really big shad like that? I’m guessing it was a threadfin shad, I don’t think there’s gizzard shad up here, or at least I have never seen one.

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11748
    #1569596

    Oh yeah, there are gizzard shad up here. I’ve seen some big ones, too. Maybe 8″ – 10″ long.

    robby
    Quad Cities
    Posts: 2813
    #1569612

    Down here we have gizzard shad. I helped our DRN do some shocking one time and we shocked up shad longer than 14 inches. Slimey, stinky things.

    MN DNR Fisheries – Lake City
    Lake CIty, MN
    Posts: 158
    #1569613

    We don’t have threadfin shad this far north. We do have gizzard shad in large numbers in the Mississippi below Coon Rapids dam. Most of the young of year (YOY) shad die each fall/winter because they are not well adapted for cold water. In Lake Pepin/Pool 4 a YOY gizzard shad will routinely get 6.0″-9.0″ before fall. As for maximum size we have sampled them up to ~20″ in length. Recently we began to age some of the larger gizzard shad using otoliths. What we have found so far indicates that just as walleye and other popular gamefish tend to live longer the farther north they are living our gizzard shad (that are living near the northernmost part of their range) have a potential age near the high end of what has been recorded in the literature. Our current record for the oldest shad aged was a 18.5″ individual that was 9 years old when we aged it.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59988
    #1569614

    Thanks Nick!

    crawdaddy
    St. Paul MN
    Posts: 1440
    #1569656

    Here is a picture. Sort of a gray back silver sides and belly with yellow pectoral fins.

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    Burchoid
    Posts: 28
    #1569813

    We don’t have threadfin shad this far north. We do have gizzard shad in large numbers in the Mississippi below Coon Rapids dam. Most of the young of year (YOY) shad die each fall/winter because they are not well adapted for cold water. In Lake Pepin/Pool 4 a YOY gizzard shad will routinely get 6.0″-9.0″ before fall. As for maximum size we have sampled them up to ~20″ in length. Recently we began to age some of the larger gizzard shad using otoliths. What we have found so far indicates that just as walleye and other popular gamefish tend to live longer the farther north they are living our gizzard shad (that are living near the northernmost part of their range) have a potential age near the high end of what has been recorded in the literature. Our current record for the oldest shad aged was a 18.5″ individual that was 9 years old when we aged it.

    Curious — so every shad that has an elongated thread attached to its dorsal fin in Pool 2, 3, and 4 is a Gizzard Shad? I’ve snagged quite a few that have that elongated ‘thread’ hanging off the dorsal fin… Always thought they were Threadfin. I am just now learning that BOTH Gizzard and Threadin share the same styled dorsal.

    Joel VandeKrol
    Ankeny, IA
    Posts: 460
    #1569845

    Here you go

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