Seth Feider comments about walleyes on Mille Lacs.

CaptainMusky wrote:

well, I guess by the fact you brought it up and how it was in direct conflict with how typical “pros” acted I perceived that as blasting him. I take his comments as face value and out of context. Watching the live stream last year and his comments during the even they do not jive at all.
I also thought it was a shot at him when talking about the “newlyweds” clearly there was animosity there or why even say it? I dont know Seth, never met him but I thought your post was rather poignant.

Fair enough Captain. I have no quarrel with you and understand your perception. Perceptions are peoples reality and reality is just another persons perceptions. My comment about the “newlyweds” was uncalled for. There is no animosity. Was just considering his future in the Mille Lacs area after his comments. As I posted above about the former Mille Lacs Messenger editor, comments or statements can cause those making them to feel much less welcome in the community. That is what it is there, and if statements are put forth without offending the local residents and businesses fine, however what he stated was a shot at all of them. He may very well reconcile and further reconsider his position on the cause of the Mille Lacs walleye fishery demise. If not, from a pure PR perspective he could still put on a happy face…

Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>john23 wrote:</div>
The implied threat I was referring to is in post #1715138. Not a direct threat – an indirect reference to what others might do. Again, ridiculous.

john23, Just referencing the post #1715138 does not help much. The search feature at the top does not locate that here and one would have no idea what you are referring to. Not trying to be a jerk but you could just copy and paste the post or if you want post the link like this so it can be easily found.

http://www.in-depthoutdoors.com/community/forums/topic/4-days-since-the-last-mille-lacs-post/page/2/#post-1715138

With that I will borrow a quote from big_g himself;
“Read into stuff much ???? Geez.”

“Poking” is figurative I’m sure, and an objecting response could be anything other than bodily harm or personal or property injury.

It’s all good. The quote I am referencing is, “Poke the wrong person and you might get more than a laugh out of it. It’s real up there… and pretty cozy behind your keyboard.”

Like I said, implied and ridiculous.

munchy wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>MNice wrote:</div>
Serious question if I may

How many of the caught and released bass make it? I am not intending on stirring up anything, just wondering if there are a bunch of dead fish floating around next week.

Thanks

I don’t have the exact number in front of me but I recall reading after last years tournament they only had a few deaths in a few hundred caught.

Bassmasters takes very good measures to limit fish mortality. During the 2013 Bassmaster Classic, 100% of the fish which were weighed, were released alive. Granted the water was only in the mid 40s for that event, but still very impressive. Here’s a good article.

https://www.bassmaster.com/news/what-happens-bass-after-classic-weigh

100% of the walleyes caught on Mille Lacs this year have been released alive too… And we’ve harvested over 40,000#. Just saying

Will Roseberg wrote:

100% of the walleyes caught on Mille Lacs this year have been released alive too… And we’ve harvested over 40,000#. Just saying

sometimes they’re that easy.

nhamm wrote:

Fair question then, what would the bass and musky populations look like if every angler kept what they legally could?

Unfair question.. this implies that every walleye angler keeps every legal fish they can. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Let’s have the natives net them bass and musky every spawn too… geez. If your gonna compare, have a little similarity.

John23: no pokes ?

Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
well, I guess by the fact you brought it up and how it was in direct conflict with how typical “pros” acted I perceived that as blasting him. I take his comments as face value and out of context. Watching the live stream last year and his comments during the even they do not jive at all.
I also thought it was a shot at him when talking about the “newlyweds” clearly there was animosity there or why even say it? I dont know Seth, never met him but I thought your post was rather poignant.

Fair enough Captain. I have no quarrel with you and understand your perception. Perceptions are peoples reality and reality is just another persons perceptions. My comment about the “newlyweds” was uncalled for. There is no animosity. Was just considering his future in the Mille Lacs area after his comments. As I posted above about the former Mille Lacs Messenger editor, comments or statements can cause those making them to feel much less welcome in the community. That is what it is there, and if statements are put forth without offending the local residents and businesses fine, however what he stated was a shot at all of them. He may very well reconcile and further reconsider his position on the cause of the Mille Lacs walleye fishery demise. If not, from a pure PR perspective he could still put on a happy face…

makes sense! It probably wasn’t the wisest thing for him to say, but I also think there is more to it. Also, I’m sure he doesn’t truly believe that walleye anglers keep every fish, but I guarantee you walleye anglers keep more walleye than bass anglers keep bass. That is more likely what he was eluding to. He doesn’t strike me as the most well-spoken person.

but I guarantee you walleye anglers keep more walleye than bass anglers keep bass.

This has to be a “no duh” statement for everyone. Does this mean bass anglers are in a position to look down their noses at MN walleye fisherman, lump them all together and call them whiners, while ignoring the real mis-management issues ? To me.. another “no duh” moment. Bad play Feider.

big_g wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>nhamm wrote:</div>
Fair question then, what would the <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>bass and musky populations look like if every angler kept what they legally could?

Unfair question.. this implies that every <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>walleye angler keeps every legal fish they can. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Let’s have the natives net them <em class=”ido-tag-em”>bass and musky every spawn too… geez. If your gonna compare, have a little similarity.

John23: no sticks ?

Completely disagree with your assessment. The majority of anglers who keep fish aren’t on these forums, and don’t go as regularly so don’t have the skills to catch as many. For the most part, what they catch goes in the livewell.

Look at musky #s per acre and then eyes for similar lakes, netting obviously would be devasting, but again you said unfair comparisons

Don’t really consider myself in either camp for the situation. Just feel Seth made a very good point worth discussing and dissappointed in the overall feelings of the “local” crowd.

It would seem if anyone gonna “fight the good fight” the PR and host of other things necessary to get er done would be coordinated. Wonder why no big name in fishing wants to attach themselves to this mess? Casinos paying those guys off too or what? It’s a cloud of negativity that has lightning bolts of racism come through here and there as shown by some posts once in awhile.

Definition of insanity seems to fit the “good fight” thus far.

Nope, racism whether some posts hint at it or not really has nothing to do with it. The only racism is the fact the natives have more rights on the lake then the rest of the world. If you eliminate the nets I doubt you would hear much bias towards one group or another. The facts remain that the DNR is hamstrung by the situation and don’t know nor can they figure a way out of it. Whether it’s the Band, Scandinavians, Chinese or Iranians it doesn’t matter. It’s the mismanagement of the DNR and lack of transparency (backroom deals) that is causing the riff.
You will often find the racism card played when the person is throwing crap against the wall because they don’t understand whats happening up there. It’s no different then the BLM situations. Nobody here really has a handle on the issues, they only react to what they see on TV and what they read by others on-line. When the locals and those with a vested interest in Mille Lacs make a statement right away some thinks they are racist.

as long as everybody keeps ignoring the courts ruling “the resource must be managed to sustain the fishery”…………… insert wrong answer buzzer. Did not happen. Instead get some new found bass fisherman know it all to blame all the walleye fishermen for “keeping legal fish” ??? WTF !!! Are people really that blind ? It’s called the shell game… look it up.

(funny how racism is brought up about one race thinking it is racism to allow one race to do something and they cannot and they are the racist ?) oxymoron ???

nhamm wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>big_g wrote:</div>

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>nhamm wrote:</div>
Fair question then, what would the <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>bass and musky populations look like if every angler kept what they legally could?

Unfair question.. this implies that every <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>walleye angler keeps every legal fish they can. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Let’s have the natives net them <em class=”ido-tag-em”>bass and musky every spawn too… geez. If your gonna compare, have a little similarity.

John23: no sticks ?

Don’t really consider myself in either camp for the situation. Just feel Seth made a very good point worth discussing and dissappointed in the overall feelings of the “local” crowd.

I have no answer for your question on how bass populations would look if all that were legal were kept. I’m sure not good. As far as muskie on Mille Lacs, probably not much different. With a 1 fish bag limit and minimum size of 54″, you’d be looking at a fairly minimal harvest. There is very limited natural reproduction on Mille Lacs so even taking a 55″ plus fish would not be as much to the detriment of future spawning.

And your comment; “Just feel Seth made a very good point worth discussing and dissappointed in the overall feelings of the “local” crowd.”

And this is what Seth said;
Feider said. “The guys whine, ‘Oh, there’s no walleye.’ But they’ve never let one go in their entire life. They kept every single one and whine. Well, you ate them all.”

So what “very good point” did he make? And whatever the point, how inviting is this to those that he is addressing to have a meaningful discussion? This is not how you would start a respectful dialogue.

You may be “disappointed in the overall feelings of the “local” crowd.” I am disappointed he said this to begin with. He could have made his point without insulting a lot of folks.

He is just a bass fisherman with no knowledge of what is going on. It’s pretty simple… he should stick to bass fishing and if he wants to form an opinion on walleye, he should educate himself first. 500,000+ pound safe harvest levels 20 years ago, when he was 12… he probably does not remember that… I do.

I hadn’t seen the actual source posted so if anyone is interested in full context here it is:

https://www.bassmaster.com/news/daily-limit-goal-within-reach-feider-time

To me it sounds like Feider could give two squirts about the walleye population on “his” lake. But he definitely sounds worried that the bass population is going to take a big hit from all the recent pressure.

I dunno, these comments are really weird to me, especially in light of all the reports that they (bass dudes) can’t keep walleyes off their tubes on the pond right now. That doesn’t exactly jibe with “greedy anglers ate all the walleyes?”

ClownColor wrote:

The guys a douchebag with an opinion… just like the rest of us here.

Ouch!

And this is what Seth said;
Feider said. “The guys whine, ‘Oh, there’s no walleye.’ But they’ve never let one go in their entire life. They kept every single one and whine. Well, you ate them all.”

How do you know he wasn’t talking about the Netting? He didn’t mention who he was talking about….. Just assuming is just that, assuming.

He took a time out from a conversation with his family to sign my boys hat. He can’t be too bad. Also I gotta give Iaconelli top honors for being very accommodating. He just rolled into the parking lot, was in the middle of draining his live well, and pulling out bass and he reached for my kids pictures of him to sign. The whole crowd around his boat was applauding him as he was signing. I was shocked, from what I’ve seen of him on TV I always thought he was cocky and arrogant. Boy was I wrong.

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big_g wrote:

but I guarantee you walleye anglers keep more walleye than bass anglers keep bass.

This has to be a “no duh” statement for everyone. Does this mean bass anglers are in a position to look down their noses at MN walleye fisherman

nice leap you made there but its something to think about. Maybe catch an ad release isn’t a bad thing. Bass fishermen and musky fishermen often brag about the quality fishing on mille lacs. Walleye fishermen now not so much……….bass anglers and musky anglers release 99% of their catch……

ClownColor wrote:

The guys a douchebag with an opinion… just like the rest of us here.

That would only be your confession. The “guy” is not a douchebag and neither are the rest of us here. Were you looking in the mirror?

Cap’n… don’t tell me you are unaware that walleye are very good tasting… as compared to bass and musky. (fact, the natives do not set nets for bass or musky in Mille Lacs) In fact, I know plenty of bass fisherman who keep every walleye they can, to eat. Is that fair to then make snide remarks about this ?

TripleA wrote:

And this is what Seth said;

How do you know he wasn’t talking about the Netting? He didn’t mention who he was talking about….. Just assuming is just that, assuming.

He specifically said “Minnesota mentality”… the netters are not from Minnesota, they are from a sovereign nation and mostly from the state of Wisconsin to boot. Try to keep up.

MNdrifter wrote:

He took a time out from a conversation with his family to sign my boys hat. He can’t be too bad. Also I gotta give Iaconelli top honors for being very accommodating. He just rolled into the parking lot, was in the middle of draining his live well, and pulling out bass and he reached for my kids pictures of him to sign. The whole crowd around his boat was applauding him as he was signing. I was shocked, from what I’ve seen of him on TV I always thought he was cocky and arrogant. Boy was I wrong.

Very cool Drifter, kudos for being there with your family, although the one boy was looking impatient waiting for the grill to fire up.
Seth finished 13th with a 65-6 bag. I was truly hoping he would have fared better. Guess I am a “homer”, Gophers won yesterday, Twins won today, Vikings flopped.
I heard there was another Bass Pro that pulled in and opened his rod box and donated all his rods to kids lucky enough to be nearby! Very cool event, glad you were there personally to report.

TripleA wrote:

And this is what Seth said;
Feider said. “The guys whine, ‘Oh, there’s no walleye.’ But they’ve never let one go in their entire life. They kept every single one and whine. Well, you ate them all.”

How do you know he wasn’t talking about the Netting? He didn’t mention who he was talking about….. Just assuming is just that, assuming.

So are you suggesting that Seth was referring to the Native Americans whining there is no walleye??? So is that not from outer space? You (they) wouldn’t net a fish to then let it go. Huh…?

big_g wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>TripleA wrote:</div>
And this is what Seth said;

How do you know he wasn’t talking about the Netting? He didn’t mention who he was talking about….. Just assuming is just that, assuming.

He specifically said “Minnesota mentality”… the netters are not from Minnesota, they are from a sovereign nation and mostly from the state of Wisconsin to boot. Try to keep up.

You convinced me with the keep up part…. haha.

big_g wrote:

Cap’n… don’t tell me you are unaware that walleye are very good tasting… as compared to bass and musky. (fact, the natives do not set nets for bass or musky in Mille Lacs) In fact, I know plenty of bass fisherman who keep every walleye they can, to eat. Is that fair to then make snide remarks about this ?

Of course I know they are good tasting, but not my favorite. I would take 11″ perch any day of the week before walleye. I throw back 90% or more of the walleyes I catch. Took the boys out the other night, we caught 3, let them all go. I haven’t kept a walleye since I was in Canada back in mid June.

ClownColor wrote:

The guys a douchebag with an opinion… just like the rest of us here.

That would only be your confession. The “guy” is not a douchebag and neither are the rest of us here. Were you looking in the mirror?

So Serious…jeez. And yes, part of the joke included me….hence “the rest of us here.” LOL

But yes, that was a very douche thing he said.

Yes, I got’cha…I was a few IPA’s into the evening and was still smarting over that Viking game when I responded. I will be curious though if there is another interview with Seth or some other public comment he makes that tones down what he said initially.

… at least the Packers lost!.

I can understand why some people may be bothered with what he said. But how many times have we heard people say things like suggesting that bass and muskies should be killed because they harm the walleye population?

I wasn’t their so not sure, but don’t think he should’ve said it. Also completely disagree. People are going to keep walleyes for the most part. Although their not going to keep every walleye they catch. People now a days are so used to catch and release its not like the old days of keep everything. It’s been a long time since people could keep many fish on millelacs. the worse thing I’ve seen is hot weather and a bunch floating dead that were released.

Unless its really hot out can’t imagine that many bass don’t make it. Comment like that reminds me of the Dixie chicks taking a shot at Bush. If you move to Isle and blast people for keeping walleyes you don’t have much common sense. Maybe after he gets ran out of there will locate to grand marais to hit the bwca for smallies and blast the walleye/trout fisherman.