Segmented Lead Core…

  • Francis K
    Champlin, MN
    Posts: 828
    #1553853

    I have an upcoming trip where I am going to employ segmented lead core, 3 colors for chasing ‘eyes. I intend to incorporate boards with this system. So, I’ll have the leader attached to the lure followed by my 3 colors of lead then the mono backing. My question is what pound test is suggested for the backing, 12-14? XT or XL?

    Joel Ballweg
    Sauk City, Wisconsin
    Posts: 3295
    #1553864

    Either XT or XL will work.
    My preference would be 14# Trilene Big Game line. (clear, not green)
    Or, 20# Sufix 832 braid.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1553867

    Either XT or XL will work.
    My preference would be 14# Trilene Big Game line. (clear, not green)
    Or, 20# Sufix 832 braid.

    Joel, I’m curious why not green? I just happen to have this on my setups.

    Ben Brettingen
    Moderator
    Mississippi
    Posts: 605
    #1553869

    I personally like a 20lb 832 like Joel Mentioned. No stretch!

    Francis K
    Champlin, MN
    Posts: 828
    #1553871

    I personally like a 20lb 832 like Joel Mentioned. No stretch!

    Why would this be an advantage for this scenario? I totally get it when running flat lines.

    Joel Ballweg
    Sauk City, Wisconsin
    Posts: 3295
    #1553890

    Joel, I’m curious why not green? I just happen to have this on my setups.

    Its really what you prefer out of your line. I actually like both the green and the clear. As I get older, the green sticks out a little better to my eyes.

    The main reason for the clear is that it supposedly is not as affected by UV rays as the green is. Can’t confirm that for you as of right now though.
    If true, the clear should last longer than the green before it need replacement.

    I’ve ran all three of the lines mentioned and currently, I much prefer the 20lb braid. Braid obviously has no stretch, but it also is much, much better when it comes to recovering snagged lures.

    Joel Ballweg
    Sauk City, Wisconsin
    Posts: 3295
    #1553892

    A few other advantages of braid:

    More line on your spool.
    Braid has a much longer life than mono.
    No stretch can equal better hook sets behind the board.
    Braid line catches less wind between the rod tip and the board.

    p4walleye
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 733
    #1555121

    Couple things I’ve never understood about the segmented lead core deal. Maybe someone can help me here. I agree that leadcore gives you the most accurate bait placement of what and where you are trying to hit but….
    1. What if the fish move?
    2. What if they decide to ride higher in water column?
    3. What if they decide to ride deeper?

    Seems like a good way to pin yourself, unless you prefished a couple days and conditions are going to remain stable. It just seems like a lot of work for a small window of application. What am I missing here?

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1555149

    1. What if the fish move? Adjust accordingly. See below.
    2. What if they decide to ride higher in water column? Reel in some line.
    3. What if they decide to ride deeper? Snap weights.

    p4walleye
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 733
    #1555205

    1. What if the fish move? Adjust accordingly. See below.
    2. What if they decide to ride higher in water column? Reel in some line.
    3. What if they decide to ride deeper? Snap weights.

    😉 Thanks for the reply, not trying to sound like a jerk at all but your answers really make no sense at all to me.

    “Adjust accordingly”
    If I had 3 colors of lead rigged with a leader and backing on more than a couple set-ups, that’s the depth those set ups are going to run, only variable I could change would be speed without defeating the whole purpose of using it segmented.

    “Reel in some line”
    If I reel in some line I believe I defeat the whole purpose of the backing, which is being used for easier and safer attaching to the board, less sag/weight/draw from rod tip to board.

    “Snap weights”
    Love snap weights with flatlines but the last thing I would ever want to do would be to have to juggle a new depth conversion along with snaps on the board and another snap on the lead or leader. Sounds like a cluster waiting to happen.

    Still missing the purpose of this technique unless you have been on them and drilling em at a specific depth for a day or 2. I’m just interested in the technique, and like talking fishing, certainly don’t want to sound like a prick with this response, and if I did, it was not my intention.👍😉

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1555208

    I gotta say that I’ve rarely used lc for walleyes. I mostly fish Lake Superior with lc. I’m sure superior is much more forgiving as far as dialing in a precise depth. 30-40′ water clarity helps.

    With that said, no matter what method you use, there are a huge number of variables that will affect your depth. Current, speed, lure dive depth, backing dia, leader dia, etc… If you’re looking for +-6″ precision at 25’+, good luck.

    I’ve found lc to be quite flexible. I’m guessing that there are quite a few people that have 4 or more segmented setups that cover a wide variety of depths.

    I’ve had no issues clipping the boards directly to the lead. Most will say don’t do it for good reason. I’ll stop doing it the day I get a break in the lead.

    I’ve also found you can get additional depth by letting out more backing and letting your lead segment sink below the surface.

    Your argument about it not being versatile is all about personal perception.

    p4walleye
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 733
    #1555221

    Yup, that’s what I was looking for. Thanks! I didn’t know you were mainly on superior. I can totally see a need if the Great Lakes were a persons main body of water, and after your response I can see that multiple segment set ups with different amounts of lead would be clutch. I also snap right onto LC, which was part of the reason for my question in the first place. Thank you for taking the time! 👍. Interesting!

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