Trout eat trout

  • Tom Sawvell
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    #1319599

    Its well known that some trout like to dine on other trout. Why would there be so many trout look-a-like baits if this were not the case? Here’s my addition to the mix….

    mossydan
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    #1149920

    Not bad Tom, is there anyway you can get the red ribbon to go down the length of the tail or is it just too hard or impossible to do.

    Tom Sawvell
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    #1150092

    Like this maybe?

    mossydan
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    #1150116

    Ya Tom thats my personal choice, now can you put a paddle tail on it, again only my personal choice. I think one like that would blow the smallies away. I fish some of the local creeks for smallies and I know If I threw one like that anywhere near them they would hammer it.

    Down here they lay on gravel bars that are under the limbs of trees often enough and I know if they seen one with a paddletail swimming anywhere near them they would hammer it.

    Another very good spot would be when the jig is swam right next to logs laying anywhere in the creek. The smallies lay under those limbs and logs just waiting for something to ambush. Nice jig tail and colors too, a paddletail with decent size and it would be awsome and in my tackle box…

    There used to be a lure called the Tiny Tad and it was made by heddon and it just pounded the smallies then Heddon quit makeing them for some unknown reason. The ones I used were called crawfish color and I haven’t seen anything close to those colors besides yours. With a paddle tail Id buy some. Maybe try some darker green like the plates on the sides of a crawfish and in that same area as a crawfish, along with the orange head and tail areas, asking for toooo much ain’t I.

    Tom Sawvell
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    #1150125

    ….asking for toooo much ain’t I…..

    That’s a stretch Dan. Plastic is nice in that it can be manipulated to a degree. There is only so much that can be tweaked though.

    One reason the bloodline works nice in the bait shown is because the tail is trianglar. The configuration of the mold is the other such that it shoots a top and bottom half…the colorant for the line goes in between the two halves when the mold is shot in two steps.

    The biggest obstacle in doing a plastic as you decribe would be the gren sides. That’s pretty much a no-do as far as my skills go.

    I like a color challenge but the molds and plastic create limits that sometimes can’t be overcome.

    mossydan
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    #1150128

    Ya I hear what your saying, any chance in Injecting the colors seperately or are we talking the same thing, hard to do? It wouldn’t have to be the outside of the body only where the dark green would be, it could be the whole center section, with the orange varagated tail and head section seperately, any chance? The paddle tails just to hard to do?

    Tom Sawvell
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    #1150133

    Like I said, soft plastic work has some limits and doing the seperate injection of colors is one of those limits. When we start seperating the shots for different colors we are introducing joints that can fail. While the colors might be feasible as a series of independent shots and stacked beginning with the rear-most color, each subsequent injection is going to offering a weak spot in the finished plastic.

    The molds for the paddletails I do are not configured to do top and bottom halves. The mold would have to be of that design to get the tail shot with the color core done.

    Let me dink a little.

    Light green to yellow tail color with an orange core, green body and orange head end? Right? How about this color of green?


    mossydan
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    #1117926

    Those are pretty darned close Tom, in color, those are pretty nice proportions. I also know about what we call cold joints and your right they don’t hold up. The last pictures are nice colors and they would catch fish. NO way to make a mould with something close to a paddletail and then inject from the tail twards the front? Be killer if you could!

    Tom Sawvell
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    #1150150

    I tried both paddletail molds I have and the one is definitely configured wrong to do what I need to get to your bait. The other mold won’t vet right with all of the pice shooting and the blood line will not crawl at all thru the narrower tail stem. No go, Dan.

    mossydan
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    #1150193

    Oh well Tom, thats the way it goes. It wouldn’t necessarily have to have the bloodline in it but that stomach colors come very close. Can you drill the vents a little bigger to get a better fill. Could you use a dremmel tool to get what you want, is the mould aluminum? Oh well thanks

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