Stackers???

  • AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #1319556

    Having made two trips this year to Cabela’s for items they said they had…and didn’t.
    I’m asking does anybody know who stocks the Cannon or Off Shore stacker releases?

    These are the releases that slide on the downrigger ball and have two releases on them, one goes to the fishing line, the other on the rigger ball line.

    I’ll order them if I have to but would like them by Sat and not sure if they’ll get here by then.

    Did a web search and didn’t find much.

    I live in Mpls also so something not too far away.

    TIA

    Al

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1092245

    Allen

    I have a set of those Canon stackers. I would rate them “OK” at best but that really wasn’t the question. I picked them up at Cabelas – Rogers. Did you hit that Cabelas or go to Cabelas – Owatonna? If you’ve already checked Rogers I’d call Marine General up in Duluth, you’ll be heading that way on the way up, and see what they might have for you.

    timmy
    Posts: 1960
    #1092247

    Allen –

    I highly recommend either Roemer or chamberlain stackers. I have used most of them and those two are head and shoulders above the rest IMHO.

    Fife
    Ramsey, MN
    Posts: 4044
    #1092253

    I can’t help you out with the stackers, but a good tip for shopping at Cabela’s is to order online and have it delivered to the store. The shipping is free and it guarantees the item you are looking for will be there.

    poppy402
    Eagle Point Wisconsin
    Posts: 948
    #1092259

    Grab some on your way thru Duluth Al, at marine general. They will have everything you need!

    poppy402
    Eagle Point Wisconsin
    Posts: 948
    #1092260

    If your fishing in water deeper than 50 feet, an alternative to a stacker is a slider rig, where you take a 8 foot section of line and tie on two snap swivels, one on each end.

    Put a spoon on one, and attatch the other snap to the line of the rod on the downrigger. throw out the back so you will essentially have 2 lures on one rod. THis will stop in the middle of the “bow” which is created from water resistence on the line. THis is a very productive method as well.

    Tom Sawvell
    Inactive
    Posts: 9559
    #1092263

    These clips are, as James has suggested, ok, as long as what you are pulling isn’t drag-heavy. A crank without a severe bill will work as will the lighter trolling blades. A flasher or dodger will create enough drag to allow the clips to slide on the wire.

    We picked up a couple stackers at Marine General that look similar to a saddle pin and bind to the wire very tightly without crimping it. These won’t move, are easy to get off the wire for bringing the ball up and will handle some real weight.

    timmy
    Posts: 1960
    #1092286

    Quote:


    If your fishing in water deeper than 50 feet, an alternative to a stacker is a slider rig, where you take a 8 foot section of line and tie on two snap swivels, one on each end.

    Put a spoon on one, and attatch the other snap to the line of the rod on the downrigger. throw out the back so you will essentially have 2 lures on one rod. THis will stop in the middle of the “bow” which is created from water resistence on the line. THis is a very productive method as well.


    One tip on fishing sliders that can (hopefully) pay off is to run a swivel/leader on your main line the same length as your slider. I run 5′ sliders – and a 5′ leader on the main line. This allows for easy netting of the occasional double that occurs with sliders – as it puts both fish at the same distance from the rod tip when they are boatside.

    jiggin-rake
    inver grove heights, minnesota
    Posts: 857
    #1092293

    Just made an order from cabelas and they got 4/5 items correct. And they shipped from a Wisconsin store for some reason.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #1092299

    Great replies all, THANKS MUCH!

    James, they look like they would be the easiest to deal with, also I should be able to run say 30 foot of ball out, attach the stacker’s and one goes on the ball line, the other goes on the fishing line, let another 50 foot out and be at 50 and 80 foot…all goes according to plan..

    Also it looks like I can when retrieving the ball, stop when the stacker gets out of the water, remove the release on the ball line and it’ll just slide down as the rigger brings the ball all the way in…maybe

    Anyway, it’s the Owatonna store, I’ll check the Rogers store then.

    Timmy, can’t find the Roemers locally to try/look at, I’ll look for the chamberlains though.

    Biglife, Ordering would be next, but we’re leaving Sunday and would like to make sure we have them.

    Grant will do, problem lies is getting to Marine before they close.
    The swivel idea sounds good but I’ll let you show me how next time we get out..

    Tom, basically spoons and smaller lipped lures, no deep divers.

    Once again, thanks all.

    Al

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #1092302

    Quote:


    Roemers….. Russ at Marine General might have ’em…..its worth a call….. or else you gotta order them.

    http://www.fishusa.com/Roemer-Releases_p.html


    Will do, thanks.

    EDIT..just called and Russ says they have two of the Roemers and can have them to me by tomm…problem solved.

    Thanks all…again.

    Al

    timmy
    Posts: 1960
    #1092405

    Quote:


    EDIT..just called and Russ says they have two of the Roemers and can have them to me by tomm…problem solved.
    Thanks all…again.
    Al


    Tomorrow? …. That Russ must be slipping……lol…

    norge
    Posts: 198
    #1092414

    It is amazing how much info can be learned in following one thread.
    For fixed sliders I prefer the Chamberlain but am not familiar with the Roemer and would guess by the advice here they will work fine.
    Tom I think is describing the Scotty stacker release. A much used release in the Great Lakes.
    Good tip on the leader for slider rigs. I will put that one to work on the big ponds. Those slider can light things up on occassion.
    Again, an awesome amount of info in a short thread. I want to see a report when you return from your fishing.
    Lloyd

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #1092441

    “”It is amazing how much info can be learned in following one thread. “”

    Gotta agree on that one, I thought with a bunch of web searching I had it figured out, and was presented with several alternatives, and ended up with a better mousetrap.

    Release in this case…:)

    Thanks all.

    Al

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #1092586

    Just an add to if anybody is thinking of getting the Roemer releases, Thorne Bro’s has three of them.
    Just got their return email telling me this.

    Thanks to Thorne.

    Al

    stuwest
    Elmwood, WI
    Posts: 2254
    #1092674

    Sliders and Lockers-

    Lockers are a personal issue with whatever advertising campaign you buy. Buy three kinds and see what works best for your system.

    Sliders are a lot easier: you want them LITE and frictionless. I’ve actually found big paper clips to be the best.

    Combo’ing locks with sliders is a nitemare situation at 3am. I’d not suggest that. 25#ers just rip gear. Now you’ve got another product designed for 5# shakers that just explodes when you need it most.

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #1092677

    Quote:


    Sliders and Lockers-

    Lockers are a personal issue with whatever advertising campaign you buy. Buy three kinds and see what works best for your system.

    Sliders are a lot easier: you want them LITE and frictionless. I’ve actually found big paper clips to be the best.

    Combo’ing locks with sliders is a nitemare situation at 3am. I’d not suggest that. 25#ers just rip gear.


    Got the Roemers Stu, I’ll try them, rubber bands was also suggested, I needed something quick for this sunday so we’ll see how they work.

    More of that learning curve.
    Hard for me to talk on a recorded phone Stu, didn’t mean to cut ya short, but work doesn’t have much of a sense of humor.

    Al

    stuwest
    Elmwood, WI
    Posts: 2254
    #1092684

    understood, al.

    use a paper clip/rubber band and it will find the belly of the wire. it will always find the middle. cheap fast, easy in the middle of the nite. put the bottom lure on a separate rod. that way you have a dedicated rig on your rare big fish strikes.

    big brother phones: not an issue. i’ve got them here too. NO ONE gets away from them these days…

    AllenW
    Mpls, MN
    Posts: 2895
    #1092694

    Got home to find two of the Roemer releases in the mailbox, kudo’s to Marine General..

    Stu, reason I wanted these was the ability to place the first line down at the ball, say 80′ then the second line at say 30′, I couldn’t do that with the sliding stackers.

    There smaller than I thought they’d be..:)

    Al

    stuwest
    Elmwood, WI
    Posts: 2254
    #1092707

    yes, for locking at specific height if you’ve got info about a thermocline, bait cloud, etc they work fine. any of the lockers work for that.

    what you are usually doing to attempting to locate a hot bite depth, and for that SEARCH function, i like belly sliders, i.e. the belly is going to be at 1/2 your bottom locked line (presuming you are going to bottom lock somewhere near your cannon ball.)

    So, after i find my ‘hot’ spec, (IF i find it…lot’s of days you don’t) THEN i put all four arms at that depth, ONE RIGGER PER LINE. This GREATLY SIMPLIFIES your tangle, mangles and screw ups. TMSs are your biggest threat to success, especially if you are running with only one first mate. If you’ve got a three person crew, it’s possible to get everything done without TMSs.

    Sooooo, this is to say that stackers/sliders are a good search tool, but detrimental if you CAN be targeted…

    I use stackers/sliders on every trip out, even on P4…

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