Sad story

The story on the childs murder in Chippewa Falls just gets sadder and sadder. 14 year old charged.

Thoughts and prayers for the families and friends of both of those children.

Unreal. How that can enter a 14 year old’s mind just doesn’t make sense to me. Absolutely tragic.

I am just glad it the family got quick closure. You always fear that these will be another Jacob Wetterling. He’s too young to even begin to realize what he did.

I have not seen the details but from what I have read, it’s heart breaking

I can’t even imagine what the families must feel.Prayers to the families.

queenswake wrote:

He’s too young to even begin to realize what he did.

Disagree. 14 years old is plenty old enough to know rape and murder is wrong. From what I read, this was 100% premeditated. I know he’s young but a monster like this should never be allowed back in society.

Prosecutors said the teen confessed, saying he intended to commit the crime “when he left the house with the victim”

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>queenswake wrote:</div>
He’s too young to even begin to realize what he did.

Disagree. 14 years old is plenty old enough to know rape and murder is wrong. From what I read, this was 100% premeditated. I know he’s young but a monster like this should never be allowed back in society.

I agree. 14 years old is not a child anymore these days. But still, shocking.

I have compassion for kids it seems. I actually feel sorrier for both families then the 14 year old, I have a grandson thats 14………I couldn’t imagine whats happening in that family today.

Guessing that 14 year old had some deamons of his own that went without help.
May she Rest In Peace.

I sure would like to know more about the the backgrounds of those involved, I can’t imagine what was going through that 14 year olds mind.

This event has been eating at me since I first heard about it.

When the first details came out, “a young girl found dead on a bike trail,” my mind instantly thought the worst.

Unfortunately it did turn out to be the worst. I can’t even begin to imagine what her parents are going through.

Dutchboy wrote:

I have compassion for kids it seems. I actually feel sorrier for both families then the 14 year old, I have a grandson thats 14………I couldn’t imagine whats happening in that family today.

Dutchy, I feel horrible for her family, but to be absolutely transparent, I don’t feel bad for his until more details come out.

There absolutely had to have been warning signs for a 14 year-old wanting to commit a premeditated rape and murder of a child.

There’s virtually a 100% chance that the boy’s family (or lack there of) was a huge contributor to his actions. Normal people raised with a normal family don’t do these things. My compassion for him and his family right now are at the bottom of the barrel.

Rest in peace little Lily. Your life wasn’t wasted. A very bad person has been taken into custody and he cannot hurt, rape or abuse anyone else.

B not my job to pass judgement, especially on people I don’t know.

Dutchboy wrote:

B not my job to pass judgement, especially on people I don’t know.

I get it, but if one of my boys hits the neighbor girl over the head with a stick, chokes her to death, and then rapes her…you can pass judgement on me and my kids without feeling bad for doing so.

Such a tragedy many prayers for the family.

B-man wrote:

I get it, but if one of my boys hits the neighbor girl over the head with a stick, chokes her to death, and then rapes her…you can pass judgement on me and my kids without feeling bad for doing so.

I’ll go ahead and pass judgement now too considering he fully admitted to premeditated murder. Plus raped her before he killed her. Hope he’s tried as an adult and found guilty on all accounts.

I’m with B-Man and gimruis on this one. No sympathy for the boy’s family and the kid should be punished to the full extent of the law.

In my mind, there is no amount of rehabilitation or counseling this kid could go through where I feel like he could be trusted in society to not harm anyone.

B-man wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
B not my job to pass judgement, especially on people I don’t know.

I get it, but if one of my boys hits the neighbor girl over the head with a stick, chokes her to death, and then rapes her…you can pass judgement on me and my kids without feeling bad for doing so.

In your family if one of the boys ever went off the rails for whatever reason I don’t know that I could hold his parents, siblings or friends responsible. My thoughts and prayers would go out to you and your family. If it was proven you had trained your kid to do what he did that would be something entirely different. Can you imagine coming home from work one day and learning your son had done something this kid admitted to doing? Somethings in life are beyond our control no matter how we raise our kids.

Thats why I sent my thoughts & prayers to both families, not because I thought the kid was innocent or misunderstood.

I only used your family as a example because you had brought them into the conversation. I didn’t mean anything negative.

That kid needs or needed help and lots of it.

It’s hard to know in cases like this if the 14 year old had a mental illness or was just pure evil. In a case of pure Evil, sadly nothing can usually be done till after a Evil act happens. As for if a mental illness, even though no cure at this time there is treatment. With treatment there is HOPE. Its really sad the amount of mental Illness that there is in out society and even more sad the amount of it in Teens and even Pre-teens. I sometimes feel mental illness is sometimes being over diagnosed and at other times being way overlooked. As a parent a person really needs to really understand their child’s moods and feeling and really get to know them. It can only happen if you spend time with and get to know your child that you will be able to see if there is a change in their moods and feelings. Not all changes are a mental illness, often just a changes in hormones that comes with adolescence. But other times it can be much more serious than that. If you have a good relationship with your child you should be able to spot changes early and sit down and have a open conversation about them, and determine if you need to get a professional involved or not. If in doubt, error on the side of getting a professional involved.

I read something today that the 14 year Olds father is in prison for child pornography. Might just be a twisted family. And the help was never there

As a father of two little girls, this one really shook me, and I can’t imagine what her family is going through. I have to imagine that put into the same situation, I would be going scorched earth on the defendant and his/her family and would stop nothing short of life in prison for the boy.

Also, I have a VERY hard time believing there weren’t warning signs leading up to this. Watching overly graphic movies, graphic video games, maybe free reign on poor internet content, etc. That being the case, if there were the signs that something needed to be addressed at home, then the parents need to face some sort of repercussions as well.

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>queenswake wrote:</div>
He’s too young to even begin to realize what he did.

Disagree. 14 years old is plenty old enough to know rape and murder is wrong. From what I read, this was 100% premeditated. I know he’s young but a monster like this should never be allowed back in society.

Prosecutors said the teen confessed, saying he intended to commit the crime “when he left the house with the victim”

To clarify, I intended my statement to mean that he was too young to realize the gravity of the situation and the long-term effects of his actions, including how it has effectively ended his life before it even got started. At 14 you are not thinking long-term like that. Your brain can’t grasp consequences of your actions.

As for committing the actual acts, yes, he either has a mental illness or a severe lack of good parenting. Not excusing his actions in any form.

This is very sad. I feel terrible for that young girl.

I’d support releasing the 14 year old on a signature bond today. That POS is going to cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars over the next 75+ years. Everyone knows the area he lives and thousands of locals in the area now know who he is. I’d set the timer at ~2 weeks until an eye for an eye is the theme of this case with no witnesses or anyone willing to share information. Justice isn’t always found in a court system. This case is a perfect example.

B-man wrote:

This event has been eating at me since I first heard about it.

There absolutely had to have been warning signs for a 14 year-old wanting to commit a premeditated rape and murder of a child.

There’s virtually a 100% chance that the boy’s family (or lack there of) was a huge contributor to his actions. Normal people raised with a normal family don’t do these things. My compassion for him and his family right now are at the bottom of the barrel.

B-Man

There was a day I would have 100% agreed with you. Not these days. There is just some things going wrong with some kids these days. I wish I had a answer to what is causing it but I don’t. There are just so many additional or increased factors effecting children these days than in the past: Changes in Culture itself, Increased interaction more influence by Peers, Exposure and access to many different drugs, media and internet access. Just to name a few. I just think there is far more of a chance for a child to do something really bad these days and for it to be little or no fault of bad parenting. This is not to say that I think Great parenting can go a LONG ways in preventing things like this.

Prayers for the family of the little girl, sadly a similar thing happened down here in Iowa several months back.
Two teenage boys beat a Spanish teacher to death with baseball bats or some form of club.
This had been thought out for many days before it occurred, the system wanted to try both of them as adults and of course the bleeding hearts are having their turn with it.
Hopefully they will be tried as adults.

Bearcat89 wrote:

I read something today that the 14 year Olds father is in prison for child pornography. Might just be a twisted family. And the help was never there

If this is true – That sure did not help !!!

I’m just speechless… the local radio news said today he raped her after he strangled her.

The last 2 years have done nothing to help with kids and society in general. People havent been able to see medical/mental care that they have needed. Trying to get into a therapist takes months and months if you can even find one that will accept new patients. This kid obviously had some demons and if the rumors are true that his father is in prison for child pornography he was obviously not in a safe environment at all.
Kids these days have been led to believe there are little consequences for their actions. All the video games they play, if they die they just respawn and go at it again like nothing happened.
Im so sad for this little girl and her family and sad for the boy as well because clearly he wasnt in a good situation but he should be held accountable for his actions regardless.

Beast wrote:

I’m just speechless… the local radio news said today he raped her after he strangled her.

I recently heard that today too. She was dead when he raped her. Unreal.

Flame away, but there’s only 1 thing left to do to that monster…. 1 behind the ear. Done! Bad dogs simply need to be put down.

Such a tragic and horrifying story. As a father of 3 girls, I can’t even begin to wrap my head around this and how I can possibly raise my girls without being a completely paranoid helicopter parent.