Running a 115 tiller with out power steering

  • Jason smith
    Posts: 2
    #1945679

    I have a Lund Alaskan 2000 and I want to put a 115 tiller on it, my question is do you need to have steering assistance on it or can you run it with out? If so is it a lot of effort to hold on to it?

    Thanks for any advice.

    Alagnak Pete
    Lakeville
    Posts: 373
    #1945684

    There can be quite a bit of torque until you get on plane and trim it. Once trimmed it’s pretty much gone if everything is setup correctly. The main concern without some sort of power steering or hydraulic assist can be if you hit something or your hand comes off the handle and it can turn one way real fast and throw you out. I’d suggest looking into at least the non powered assist option. Yamaha tillers have a tension adjustment that would be a good pc of mind on plane, I’m not sure about other brands. It’s not cheap at $1250 but I like this one so far so good. https://www.tillerassist.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html

    Hot Runr Guy
    West Chicago, IL
    Posts: 1933
    #1945744

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Hot Runr Guy wrote:</div>
    In addition to the Tiller Assist mentioned above, you could always look at the Uflex system, based on the Mertens “Titan” system, available for Yamaha, Suzuki & Mercury.

    https://uflexusa.ultraflexgroup.com/en/catalogue/zero-torque-feedback-tiller-steering-systems/0A7-1/index.html

    HRG

    What happened to Mertens Titan Tiller?

    I don’t see them for sale anywhere.

    Hey there! Merten’s sold it to Uflex.

    HRG

    Dustin Tichy
    Posts: 112
    #1945759

    I have a Lund Alaskan 2000 and I want to put a 115 tiller on it, my question is do you need to have steering assistance on it or can you run it with out? If so is it a lot of effort to hold on to it?

    Thanks for any advice.

    I ran a 20 foot warrior tiller for many years without power steering. It really isn’t that bad, you just have to trim properly to remove the arm torque. I now run the same size boat with warrior power steering, it is a nice thing to have but would not call it a need. The time I like it the most if for long runs. I am happy I have it now, but just saying you could get by without if you needed to.

    hillhiker
    SE MN
    Posts: 1104
    #1945793

    Making sure your torque tab on the bottom of the cavitation plate is adjusted right makes a huge difference as well.

    shefland
    Walker
    Posts: 530
    #1945867

    I say yes for safety reasons, just incase you lose your grip. things happen fast

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 17838
    #1945869

    Had a 115 on my Skeeter with no power steering. Was manageable after you hit the sweet spot. It really wasn’t bad at all. Unless you make long runs it’s not a issue once you get use to it.

    The 200 Merc was another story. Certainly enjoyed the power steering on that one. grin

    B-man
    Posts: 6816
    #1945873

    I had a 125hp 2-stroke tiller on a 17′ boat (V177) Warrior mrgreen

    It was a bit spooky with the power steering turned off….

    But damn that boat was fun toast

    ‘They don’t make them like that anymore…. 46 mph tillers are borderline scary lol

    I’d recommend getting it for safety and comfort. There’s times in big water where you want to be trimmed down (not in the sweet spot), and without power steering it will fatigue the snot out of you.

    Joe Scegura
    Alexandria MN
    Posts: 2758
    #1945883

    I’ve had 5 20′ tillers 2 with 115hp no tiller assist and the rest were 150 with tiller assist. I would never own a 115 with tiller assist, just not needed in my opinion.

    3rdtryguy
    Central Mn
    Posts: 1633
    #1945902

    It’s been done for years trouble free. If you are green take it slow for a while. You will be a captain by the second time out:)

    koldfront kraig
    Coon Rapids mn
    Posts: 1836
    #1946418

    It’s the times where you can’t run in the sweet spot that suck.

    Long runs in rough water when you have to trim the boat for optimum ride or safety reasons.

    I had a Titan on my Skeeter 1790t. Tim Merten let us test our boats with the Titan installed for a weekend. At the end of the weekend he would take it off if we didn’t like it.

    No one took them off.

    Netguy
    Minnetonka
    Posts: 3637
    #1946430

    On my new 1875 Pro Guide with a Yamaha Vmax SHO 90 I had them put on a Uflex system. Last fall I got tennis elbow in my left arm. When I ordered the boat at the boat show in January, it was still hurting quite a bit so it was an easy decision. I’m glad I did. It’s a safety factor also since I fish solo quite a bit on the big lakes.

    abster71
    crawford county WI
    Posts: 819
    #1946542

    Just installed Uflex on 185 competitor Yamaha 90 SHO. Was a little tough to handle when not trimmed up now with it installed hitting waves I have no worries when I’m not pushing or pulling the motor is locked and steers easily at any trim angle.

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