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PJ Fleck is the odds on favorite to be offered the USC coaching job.

Eric Bieniemy

belletaine wrote:

PJ Fleck is the odds on favorite to be offered the USC coaching job.

I was waiting for this.

I think USC is swinging for a bigger name than PJ. His name will be thrown in most conversations as a young coach who appeals to this generation, but I think it’s going to take more true results to land that type of job.

I think James Franklin from Penn State, Campbell from Iowa State, or one of the popular coordinators in football like Bieniemy from the Chiefs are some of the first on their list.

buckybadger wrote:

I think USC is swinging for a bigger name than PJ. His name will be thrown in most conversations as a young coach who appeals to this generation, but I think it’s going to take more true results to land that type of job.

I think James Franklin from Penn State, Campbell from Iowa State, or one of the popular coordinators in football like Bieniemy from the Chiefs are some of the first on their list.

Likely by his people desperately trying to keep his name relevant.

buckybadger wrote:

I think USC is swinging for a bigger name than PJ. His name will be thrown in most conversations as a young coach who appeals to this generation, but I think it’s going to take more true results to land that type of job.

I think James Franklin from Penn State, Campbell from Iowa State, or one of the popular coordinators in football like Bieniemy from the Chiefs are some of the first on their list.

I agree there is not a good track record of MN coaches going elsewhere and making a hug impact since Lou Holtz.

big_g wrote:

Eric Bieniemy

This was my thought.

Dutchboy wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>buckybadger wrote:</div>
I think USC is swinging for a bigger name than PJ. His name will be thrown in most conversations as a young coach who appeals to this generation, but I think it’s going to take more true results to land that type of job.

I think James Franklin from Penn State, Campbell from Iowa State, or one of the popular coordinators in football like Bieniemy from the Chiefs are some of the first on their list.

Likely by his people desperately trying to keep his name relevant.

Guess I don’t understand the hate with PJ. He is probably the best coach the gophers have had since Lou Holtz. Who by the way was a losing record coach for the two seasons he was with the gophs. I know he talks fast and say some funny things but not sure what you and others expect out of the U of M program.

Why don’t I think PJ’s coaching style will be a good fit for a school that recruits where it does?

I expect nothing. And thus far haven’t been disappointed. Fleck is fine. He certainly isn’t the the guy to take them anywhere everybody said he was.

Best thing I can say about him is he runs a clean program. Other than that he’s no better then the last bunch they have run through here in the last 40 years. Well, except Brewster, I think PJ is better than him.

Name another coach in the last 30 years who were 11-2 in a single season. Don’t look so much for the 11 cuz you won’t find it look more for the 2. Not sure who you expect is going to come coach the gophers. Saban, Meyer? Maybe they should bring back Wacker or Cal Stoll.
They just played one of the top teams in the country very competitively. Have the second highest graduation rate in the big ten behind only Northwestern. What do you expect national titles. Sorry not happening.
So far I think he has done everything he has promised.

Not my question at all blackbay.

PJ is a proven excellent coach and recruiter, he proved it with Western Michigan and also with the Kill squad he inherited and the squad he is building. 11-2 and whipped Auburn. Just think in a few seasons, when the program is good enough to attract a top tier QB. I am happy with what he has done to this point. RTB !!!

OK, my final post and i’m out.

I stayed out of the U post this year because whatever he does or doesn’t do really doesn’t matter to me.

This thread was about if he would take the USC job if offered. He would in a New York minute. However, it’ll never be offered.

I’m out have fun.

Agree he would take and so would I. Sorry I can’t fault him for that.
You were the one that said he wasn’t relevant and that he has done nothing.
I was giving facts to counter argue your point.

USC will get a bigger name that Fleck. I don’t think Fleck has earned one of the biggest/best jobs in the country quite yet.

But it wouldn’t surprise me if a mid level SEC school came calling after the season, or maybe even a Michigan State or Michigan.

I think he will show enough interest to get more money out of the U.
DT

big_g wrote:

he proved it with Eastern Michigan

It was Western Michigan. They play in the MAC which to say is a very mediocre conference at best.

I agree with Dutchboy, I think he runs clean program but one good season does not represent a pattern. The season they went 11-2 they still couldn’t beat either one of their biggest rivals and didn’t win the west division either. He is definitely an upgrade from punky Brewster.

gimruis wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>big_g wrote:</div>
he proved it with Eastern Michigan

It was Western Michigan. They play in the MAC which to say is a very mediocre conference at best.

I agree with Dutchboy, I think he runs clean program but one good season does not represent a pattern. The season they went 11-2 they still couldn’t beat either one of their biggest rivals and didn’t win the west division either. He is definitely an upgrade from punky Brewster.

Guess that was my point name a coach in the last 40 years the has done what you are asking on any sort of regular basis. Don’t forget that year they beat a top ten team and Auburn in the bowl. I agree that one season isn’t a career but I guess he has shown more to me than any other coach I have watched in my lifetime at the U.

I like Fleck but he won’t be here for long. I don’t think USC takes a chance on him. I would guess Franklin or Luke Fickell from Cincinnati. They are looking for a bigger name.

Flecks will come soon though.

Ripjiggen wrote:

Not my question at all blackbay.

I know, it was my question. I hadn’t even seen your reply.

Anyway, I don’t think PJ would fit in at all at USC, or at any PAC 10 or SEC school. They are a different brand of player than in the midwest. I really don’t think his style of coaching would work.

I also don’t think he’d be offered the job and agree with Dutch it’s a ploy to keep his name relevant.

FWIW I hope he stays and builds a team here that competes with Iowa and Wisconsin for the west title each year.

My bad blackbay thought you were replying.
You may be right not sure. All depends on the situation IMO…

gimruis wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>big_g wrote:</div>
he proved it with Eastern Michigan

It was Western Michigan. They play in the MAC which to say is a very mediocre conference at best.

I agree with Dutchboy, I think he runs clean program but one good season does not represent a pattern. The season they went 11-2 they still couldn’t beat either one of their biggest rivals and didn’t win the west division either. He is definitely an upgrade from punky Brewster.

OK Western.. fixed it.. the Division level is all relative… going from 1-11 to 13-1 in 4 seasons is quite an accomplishment at any level. He is not getting a USC offer, but to think he only runs a clean program and wins a few games is not giving him his due. Beating the Badgers at Camp Randall, not done since 1994, was a Victory in itself. I am excited to see the next few years and as I said, if he continues to recruit at the RB and WR position like he has, a 4 or even 5 star QB could be in our future as well.

big_g wrote:

Beating the Badgers at Camp Randall, not done since 1994, was a Victory in itself.

I agree big g. That win may have actually been the initial stepping stone that propelled them to the following season when they went 11-2.

stout93 wrote:

USC will get a bigger name that Fleck. I don’t think Fleck has earned one of the biggest/best jobs in the country quite yet.

But it wouldn’t surprise me if a mid level SEC school came calling after the season, or maybe even a Michigan State or Michigan.
[/quote USC isn’t near the program it once was. 18 year old kids don’t know squat about the glory days at USC and they don’t care. They want name recognition and the fastest route to the NFL. How about Pete Carroll? He could be Flecks dad.
Bienemy will be tied up with the Chiefs until at least February, gotta get there sooner to recruit.

Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t think USC is one of the best jobs in the country. Florida State used to be a coveted job as well.

gimruis wrote:

They play in the MAC which to say is a very mediocre conference at best.

The MAC isn’t a power 5 conference, but it is probably the best mid-major and produces some of the best talent. Urban Meyer and Nick Saban both got their coaching starts there. Big Ben, Randy Moss, Antonio Brown, Khalil Mack all played there. And midweek Maction on ESPN is loved by every diehard football head like myself

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/mid-american-conference-football-cradle-of-coaches-and-factory-of-upsets/2016/09/23/1374ae64-81b0-11e6-a52d-9a865a0ed0d4_story.html

belletaine wrote:

Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t think USC is one of the best jobs in the country. Florida State used to be a coveted job as well.

USC isn’t what it was, but they will rise again as most of the great programs do. It’s still a huge job for any up and coming coach as they are in one of the most talent rich areas for recruiting, and have nearly endless financial support. Add in NIL funding and USC will be great again sooner than later, they just need the right leadership. I’m a Notre Dame fan, and it pains me to say so, but history says it’s true. You could have said all those same things about Alabama until Saban turned it around.

PJ is not going to go to USC. I use to think he would be gone in a few years but for some reason I think he is going to stay with the Gophers and build a program that his name all over it.

I think Eric Bieniemy is the guy who USC will go with if he chooses to take it.

BigWerm wrote:

The MAC isn’t a power 5 conference, but it is probably the best mid-major and produces some of the best talent. Urban Meyer and Nick Saban both got their coaching starts there. Big Ben, Randy Moss, Antonio Brown, Khalil Mack all played there. And midweek Maction on ESPN is loved by every diehard football head like myself

I agree! I sometimes watch those mid week MAC games too.

I think PJ has gotten the most a coach could out of the Gophers. He possibly overachieved in the 11-2 and Auburn bowl game victory season and lately he’s typically done the Gopher thing and beaten the teams they should and lost to the typical teams they should. I’m not criticizing him, as I said I think he’s gotten the most out of what he’s had for players. And his recruiting classes seem to be an improvement too. I’m fine with the guy as a coach, I just think it’d be a leap for USC to want him.

PJ already left his MAC wife and kids behind to move to his Big 10 wife. Does that mean if he ends up in the PAC 12 or SEC someday he will have to make another change?

buckybadger wrote:

PJ already left his MAC wife and kids behind to move to his Big 10 wife. Does that mean if he ends up in the PAC 12 or SEC someday he will have to make another change?

I always knew buckybadger was the IDO username for Jerry Kill