Row the Boat 2023

  • Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 4383
    #2221492

    I’ve got the Huskers by about 50 tonight.

    -delusional Nebraska fan

    In all seriousness, there will be more NU fans in the stands would be my bet. It’s fun to see a meaningful game in week 1 and I think this game will be close but the gophers win just because of continuity in their program.

    My guess is the gophers are a 7 win team this year. I like Fleck and think he’s done a good job but the schedule is awful for them. Tonight will be a good litmus test for both teams.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11040
    #2221515

    The real question is do the Huskers have any fans left?

    Obviously they do but man have they fallen from the greatness they used to be. I think it’s going to be an interesting season for the gophers. If they have a defense they could be ok. I think the QB gives a much stronger throwing game but PJ has to be willing to be aggressive.

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 4383
    #2221540

    The real question is do the Huskers have any fans left?

    Obviously they do but man have they fallen from the greatness they used to be. I think it’s going to be an interesting season for the gophers. If they have a defense they could be ok. I think the QB gives a much stronger throwing game but PJ has to be willing to be aggressive.

    They do. No other sports down there and it’s an obsession for a lot of people. I lived there for an awhile and still have family in Omaha. I was there in the mid 90’s when they were so dominant. People still think they can get back there…I’m not so sure they can recruit enough to compete but their NIL program and facilities match anyone. If Matt Rhule doesn’t turn the ship over the next couple years I think the fan base erodes. Scott Frost was such a huge disappointment I think some fans are getting antsy.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11873
    #2221612

    -delusional Nebraska fan

    That’s redundant bud! rotflol

    The real question is do the Huskers have any fans left?

    My in-laws live in Nebraska, and as far as I and they can tell Nebraska hasn’t lost a single fan. Right now they are in the “We finally got the guy to bring us back a Natty phase”, after the 2nd or 3rd loss this year there will be a few moving to “This isn’t the guy AGAIN phase”, and Rhule will be gone in 4 years unless he can get them into a Big 10 Championship game first. Even then he only has about 2 years after to make the Natty Tourney. Good news for Nebraska is their fan base hasn’t changed, bad news for their coach is neither has their Fanbase’s expectations.

    I’m excited to see what this Gophers club can do. Getting past the Tanner Morgan era, is addition by subtraction. And it’s time to shine for all those supposedly solid recruiting classes. And yearly reminder Gophers fans, this is the best their program has been in about 60 years, enjoy it even if it doesn’t include a Rose Bowl or Big Ten title game.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23303
    #2221620

    And yearly reminder Gophers fans, this is the best their program has been in about 60 years, enjoy it even if it doesn’t include a Rose Bowl or Big Ten title game.

    That’s exactly what critics of Fleck keep forgetting. His kids dont get into trouble, he’s recruiting better every year and their academics are right up there with the best in the conference. That isnt even talking about the W/L ratio which he has the highest win % of any Gopher coach in the last 70 years.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16766
    #2221677

    Gophers will win a National title right before Nebraska does and right after Duluth does. I’m talking in the big boy league. There is nobody on this forum today that will be alive to see a national title.

    But PJ will still get his pay raises for beating cupcakes and winning 7th tier bowl games year in and year out.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8367
    #2221699

    Got a little skin on my rodents in a teaser parlay. They better get the job done tomorrow night.

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 4383
    #2221705

    Gophers will win a National title right before Nebraska does and right after Duluth does. I’m talking in the big boy league. There is nobody on this forum today that will be alive to see a national title.

    But PJ will still get his pay raises for beating cupcakes and winning 7th tier bowl games year in and year out.

    The gophers schedule speaks for itself this year. The SEC plays more cupcakes and only an 8 game conference schedule. This argument is old and tired.

    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3860
    #2221720

    Agreed. Anyone who still comments on the Gophers having a cupcake schedule has most likely not looked at a single other team’s schedule. I’ve seen rankings showing Michigan typically having more cupcakes every year. And as Matt pointed out, SEC schedules tend to be lighter. And I think the argument can be made that there are many years the B1G is tougher top to bottom than the SEC.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16766
    #2221723

    Flecks record is built on the cupcake schedules and his 11 win year with the players he inherited when hired. I don’t care what the other big 18 teams do or the SEC. This is a thread about Fleck.

    He probably is a nice guy.
    His players maybe go to school and stay out of trouble.
    But he isn’t walking on water nor is the team leaps and bounds better than when he got here.

    Oh, lets not forget that he and his predecessor’s have the luxury of recruiting to the largest metropolitan (next to Northwestern & Chicago) area in the big 18 with the most fortune 500 company’s.

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 4383
    #2221732

    Flecks record is built on the cupcake schedules and his 11 win year with the players he inherited when hired. I don’t care what the other big 18 teams do or the SEC. This is a thread about Fleck.

    He probably is a nice guy.
    His players maybe go to school and stay out of trouble.
    But he isn’t walking on water nor is the team leaps and bounds better than when he got here.

    Oh, lets not forget that he and his predecessor’s have the luxury of recruiting to the largest metropolitan (next to Northwestern & Chicago) area in the big 18 with the most fortune 500 company’s.

    Who said he walks on water? His record over the last two years is 18-8….only Michigan and Ohio state are better in the conference. That tells me he has a solid program. They are substantially better than last teams and much more consistent. Remember, we’re 1.5 coaches (Kill and Claeys) from the Brewster era.

    MN has and never will be a recruiting hotbed. Nor are the states around us. MN is at a strategic disadvantage against other programs across the country to get the best talent.

    Like his antics or not, Fleck has built a solid program.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17786
    #2221733

    His record over the last two years is 18-8….only Michigan and Ohio state are better in the conference.

    How dare you bring raw data and stats into this conversation. jester

    I’m guessing Penn State has had a better conference record than the Gophers too the past couple seasons.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8367
    #2221751

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
    Flecks record is built on the cupcake schedules and his 11 win year with the players he inherited when hired. I don’t care what the other big 18 teams do or the SEC. This is a thread about Fleck.

    He probably is a nice guy.
    His players maybe go to school and stay out of trouble.
    But he isn’t walking on water nor is the team leaps and bounds better than when he got here.

    Oh, lets not forget that he and his predecessor’s have the luxury of recruiting to the largest metropolitan (next to Northwestern & Chicago) area in the big 18 with the most fortune 500 company’s.

    Who said he walks on water? His record over the last two years is 18-8….only Michigan and Ohio state are better in the conference. That tells me he has a solid program. They are substantially better than last teams and much more consistent. Remember, we’re 1.5 coaches (Kill and Claeys) from the Brewster era.

    MN has and never will be a recruiting hotbed. Nor are the states around us. MN is at a strategic disadvantage against other programs across the country to get the best talent.

    Like his antics or not, Fleck has built a solid program.

    The guy is annoying. I don’t trust that he won’t bolt to the next fruitful opportunity for an upgrade (citing him “upgrading” wives along the way as evidence of his loyalty). He is the opposite of every coach I ever played for or worked with with the rah rah stuff.

    …With all that said the guy has been good for MN. He was the best possible candidate for the job and has moved the program in the right direction. The kids are staying out of trouble and competing. I am a Wisconsin guy, but there’s absolutely no denying that he has done positive things for the Gophers.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22524
    #2221755

    Dutchy, were you turned down admissions to the U at some point ? jester doah whistling

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23303
    #2221756

    I don’t trust that he won’t bolt to the next fruitful opportunity for an upgrade (citing him “upgrading” wives along the way as evidence of his loyalty).

    That is really kind of insulting actually. I have no idea what his first wife looks like, but considering while they were together they suffered the loss of their child that weighs heavily on people and some just cannot cope with it and tear each other apart emotionally who knows what happened, none of us do. I dont know what that would be like to lose a child, but I know it would absolutely tear me apart.

    Pig-hunter
    Southern Minnesota
    Posts: 600
    #2221761

    I am not all that much of a college football fan. I am not much of a Fleck fan either. The gophers have always been and are still a Average big 10 team at the best. I get tired of hearing that it hard to recruit in Minnesota Because of the weather and such. Like its so much better in Michigan, Wisc, and Iowa.

    Doesn’t have a ton to do with weather. Has alot to do with Minnesota High School football is some of the worst in the entire country and that is coming from someone that both played and coached it.

    Pig-hunter
    Southern Minnesota
    Posts: 600
    #2221763

    If we can beat Iowa and Illinois this year, we win the West. Wisconsin will be bad this season. Expect 6 wins max. Same with Nebraska.

    PJ’s team’s are generally IN every game. I don’t think we will beat Michigan or Ohio State, but it would not surprise me one bit if they got one of them.

    7-9 wins is what I would expect. Starts tonight. I hope they kill Nebraska. Just a disaster of a program they are.

    Pig-hunter
    Southern Minnesota
    Posts: 600
    #2221764

    Flecks record is built on the cupcake schedules and his 11 win year with the players he inherited when hired. I don’t care what the other big 18 teams do or the SEC. This is a thread about Fleck.

    He probably is a nice guy.
    His players maybe go to school and stay out of trouble.
    But he isn’t walking on water nor is the team leaps and bounds better than when he got here.

    Oh, lets not forget that he and his predecessor’s have the luxury of recruiting to the largest metropolitan (next to Northwestern & Chicago) area in the big 18 with the most fortune 500 company’s.

    You obviously aren’t around or follow football much. Minnesota’s high school D1 prospects are generally some of, if not the lowest rated in the country.

    PS why don’t you look back the Big Ten record throughout Minnesota’s history and tell us where PJ stands winning percentage wise…

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17786
    #2221766

    Wisconsin will be bad this season. Expect 6 wins max. Same with Nebraska.

    I wouldn’t say Wisconsin is going to be bad. They are predicted to win the west, followed by Iowa and Minnesota. Wisconsin is also the highest ranked team in the west at #19.

    Comparing Wisconsin and Nebraska isn’t really fair either. They aren’t even on the same wave length.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22524
    #2221770

    Eric Decker was considered a 2 Star Recruit… whistling States like Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, California and Florida, the HS Level lives and breathes football. The players are more like 2nd year College players when they emerge HS… football smart, but books, not so much. coffee doah

    supercat
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 1342
    #2221774

    If we can beat Iowa and Illinois this year, we win the West. Wisconsin will be bad this season. Expect 6 wins max. Same with Nebraska.

    Badgers having the 6th ranked running back (Braelon Allen) in the fbs I think 6 wins is way off. QB (Tanner Mordecai) with 33tds and 3500 (2022) yds passing will be changing the game also. I’ll take the six games won this season bet. Also Badgers have the longest bowl game pressence in a row of Wisconsin -21 (2002 thru 2022) consecutive more then any team in the Big Ten. Only Georgia – 26 (1997 thru 2022) Oklahoma – 24 (1999 thru 2022) have longer ones in the fbs.

    Pig-hunter
    Southern Minnesota
    Posts: 600
    #2221775

    I stand by my statement. New system. It’s year ZERO. Remember…LOL They probably win 7-8, but picking them to win the conference is mainly just going off their past glory. The last few years they haven’t been very good and now they have a whole new system to learn.

    I just don’t think they will be great. Iowa, Illinois, MN. Those 3 fighting for the West.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17786
    #2221778

    but picking them to win the conference is mainly just going off their past glory

    There’s more than goes into it than that. These are a coaches and AP polls that make picks before the season. Its based on roster turnover, strength of schedule, and the number of home/away games and whether you play them at home or away. What Wisconsin did in their “glory” days has no bearing on it. Wisconsin has the advantage of NOT playing Michigan this season. Iowa has an even bigger advantage because they avoid playing both OSU and Michigan.

    I am not a Wisconsin fan FYI. I really don’t have a favorite team to be honest. I mostly just follow the local teams like MN, IA, and WI.

    KP
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 1421
    #2221790

    Wisconsin will be bad this season. Expect 6 wins max.

    I smell a troll here!

    The Badgers will have some learning curves of course with a new system and quite a few transfers but Fickell is a proven coach and has brought in a great staff. Pig Hunter please DM me because I will for sure take the over that the Badgers will have more than 6 wins. Lets make a bet!

    Back to the Gophers I think it will be interesting to see how the offense is different this year. I think they will beat Nebraska but it will be a close game. I wonder if Nebraska will have half the stadium filled of their fans?

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5933
    #2221793

    Ahh yes. It makes sense to blame Fleck for Gopher futility of the past. Why try to inject any positivity, anyway!?

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23303
    #2221794

    Nice article on the Gophers DC

    Nice read and interesting progression but the writer got the day of the game wrong.

    Pig-hunter
    Southern Minnesota
    Posts: 600
    #2221795

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Pig-hunter wrote:</div>
    Wisconsin will be bad this season. Expect 6 wins max.

    I smell a troll here!

    The Badgers will have some learning curves of course with a new system and quite a few transfers but Fickell is a proven coach and has brought in a great staff. Pig Hunter please DM me because I will for sure take the over that the Badgers will have more than 6 wins. Lets make a bet!

    Back to the Gophers I think it will be interesting to see how the offense is different this year. I think they will beat Nebraska but it will be a close game. I wonder if Nebraska will have half the stadium filled of their fans?

    LOL. Nope, they were 6-6 last year and lucky to be that. Now they have a new system. Love watching you sconnies squirm. Honestly, the best thing that happened to your team was Mertz leaving. He was a godsend to the rest of the conference. Just a terrible QB.

    PS You were ranked 18th to start the year last year too and were basically a Big Ten cupcake.

    Hey, if you get more than that, good for you. But there’s a good chance you get less also! Have a fun season Skunk fans.

    supercat
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 1342
    #2221825

    I The last few years they haven’t been very good and now they have a whole new system to learn.

    You do realize college football players usaully play 1-4 years and are always learning new systems except gopher qb’s. College football plays are not as complex as the nfl. Freshmen have to learn a new system every year.

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