Guesses as to which redhorse this is?
April 12, 2011 at 12:26 am
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Redhorse ID?
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April 12, 2011 at 12:30 am #956158
Allen?
April 12, 2011 at 12:47 am #956172Hose cat
April 12, 2011 at 1:04 am #956183Not a redhorse just a Common Carp.
April 12, 2011 at 2:21 am #956212High-finned carp sucker??
April 12, 2011 at 3:07 am #9562192nd carp sucker!!
April 12, 2011 at 10:52 am #956260I first thought carp sucker with the tall spine on the dorsal, but it had red fins, kinda hard to see on the picture.
April 12, 2011 at 12:20 pm #956296From online photos it may be a quillback carp sucker. The show it with reddish fin tips in the photos.
Mwal
April 12, 2011 at 12:49 pm #95631299% certain it’s a common carp. Did it have barbels?
April 12, 2011 at 1:23 pm #956322I’ll see your 99% and raise you 1%. I’m 100% sure it is a regular everyday common carp.
Sorry it’s not a redhorse.
Now wash that stink off your hands.
April 12, 2011 at 4:15 pm #956388Quote:
No barbels on this one. I see some here are of the “it’s not a walleye so it must be a Carp” school.
Sorry, but it looks like a carp in the first picture. I don’t see a long first dorsal ray for me to say it’s a carpsucker. It actually looks like it has a dorsal spine but the picture isn’t great for identification. The second picture is better and is a redhorse although without seeing the mouth it’s hard so say for certain which flavor.
April 12, 2011 at 5:50 pm #956423After I got home I realized the picts weren’t too good for an ID, but the action was so hot and them buggers wouldn’t hold still for a photo. I’m gonna hit it up again this evening and see what else is running in there.
April 12, 2011 at 7:00 pm #924358Those aren’t great photos to ID from, but #1 is a carp and #2 is a little tougher to tell from the photos. Get a photo of the mouth and the dorsal fin and it will be much easier.
April 13, 2011 at 2:36 am #956568900% sure both are carp.
No doubt about it.
*EDIT*
The body is all wrong in the second pic for it to be a redhorse. Once you do a lot of ID on different fish you can look at them and know what they are. I do not need better pics to ID both as small common carp. SOmetimes the barbel on small carp are so small they are hard to find. It is a different strain. But I will say again no doubt on the ID of both as common carp.April 13, 2011 at 10:59 am #956588After looking at the second pic again, I concur with carp. That thick tail section (caudal peduncle, I think) is a dead giveaway.
Oh, and I’d trust just about anything Outdoors4Life says about roughfish. He’s a guru!
April 13, 2011 at 3:45 pm #956733If you look really close in the first picture you can see that there’s a really elongated first spine on the dorsal fin… it’s really hard to see unless you look really close.
That’s no common carp… I don’t care what kind of guru you are you can’t make a sheep into a llama just by saying so.
April 13, 2011 at 4:23 pm #956751Sorry, there is no doubt in my mind that #1 is a common carp.
April 13, 2011 at 4:32 pm #956755Quote:
If you look really close in the first picture you can see that there’s a really elongated first spine on the dorsal fin… it’s really hard to see unless you look really close.
That’s no common carp… I don’t care what kind of guru you are you can’t make a sheep into a llama just by saying so.
I see that you just want to find something different. It is no llama it is a sheep.
Quilback Carpsucker
April 13, 2011 at 4:56 pm #956771The more I look at it, the more it looks like a common carp with a jacked up dorsal fin.
April 13, 2011 at 6:38 pm #956829Quote:
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If you look really close in the first picture you can see that there’s a really elongated first spine on the dorsal fin… it’s really hard to see unless you look really close.
That’s no common carp… I don’t care what kind of guru you are you can’t make a sheep into a llama just by saying so.
I see that you just want to find something different. It is no llama it is a sheep.
Quilback Carpsucker
Just to clarify, I said that, not Goatsie…
And your good picture just reinforces the fact that the fish in the first photo is the same species. Headshape, matches. Body shape and proportions match. It’s the same kind of fish.
Maybe it helps to blow it up to full screen on a 27″ LCD… but that’s definitely the same species you have in this picture.
Sorry. I’ll go back to my catfishing bretheren now… I just can’t resist a good controversy. At least with cats in MN we don’t have any issues ID’ing things… well, unless you count brown, yellow and black bullheads.
THEY’RE NOT EVEN REAL CATFISH.
Yes they are!
See now you guys have me arguing with myself, dammit…
April 13, 2011 at 6:50 pm #956837ArmchairDeity Better get out and catch the blue cats of MN.
And I know it was you not Goat. I sent him a PM to invite him to catch some redhorse. I care to help others learn that are willing not the ones that think they know all. In return I learn from everyone I fish with.
April 13, 2011 at 6:58 pm #956841Quote:
ArmchairDeity Better get out and catch the blue cats of MN.
And I know it was you not Goat. I sent him a PM to invite him to catch some redhorse. I care to help others learn that are willing not the ones that think they know all. In return I learn from everyone I fish with.
Seriously, dude… I don’t claim to know jack about rough fish. I’ve caught about 4 carp in my life. God knows I’d love to get some experience. In fact I posted in this very forum asking for assistance getting educated about small stream fishing in MN because you guys always have interesting fish on… but you didn’t respond to that thread.
I would _love_ to learn from you… you’re arguably one of if not the most capable small stream fishermen I have ever come across. I just take issue with this one particular ID, and only based on comparing the suspect photo to your photo.
And all I’m really saying is that, based on geometry, proportion, and stuff, it LOOKS to me like it’s the same species of fish… because I know I know jack about the under-appreciated and “under-utilized” species in our state’s waterways.
April 13, 2011 at 8:50 pm #956892I checked the roughfish.com id picts, and they are indeed common carp with nice coloration.
April 14, 2011 at 12:18 am #956969One hard thing is even in carp there are variations of color shape ect ect. I have caught carp that have a fan tail like a fancy goldfish. The fun of fishing the river is all the species you can catch.
April 14, 2011 at 9:41 am #957054Quote:
The more I look at it, the more it looks like a common carp with a jacked up dorsal fin.
BINGO!!
April 14, 2011 at 1:52 pm #957129I don’t care what any of you say, they are all carp, rough fish, junk fish, bottom feeders and sewer suckers!
And I love them all, no matter what they look like.
This is a smallmouth buffalo, right? How about the dorsal on that second one.
April 14, 2011 at 1:54 pm #957132Yeah, I was just posting pictures to prove that once in a while I catch fish.
April 14, 2011 at 4:58 pm #957202Sorry for all the ruckus, didn’t mean to seem like a know-it-all… once in a while I get carried away and start believing my own PR. I defer to the experts in fish ID, especially with fish I know nothing about.
My bad. I’ll do better next time, I promise.
April 14, 2011 at 7:00 pm #957272Got it Pugman!
1st is a SM Buff
2nd is a carp and yes a oversized dorsalArmchair man we’ll get you out sometime and I would be glad to show you in person some ID helpers.
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