Restaurant & bar closures

Maybe he’s one of those “special” home schooled children?

mahtofire14 wrote:

I have had the worst craving for Chinese buffet since this whole thing started…….

Ok that is SO twisted…. but made me laugh which is good right now !

I don’t get why this is so hard to understand the thinking behind this. It is to try to slow the curve of infection, so that there aren’t too many people sick at one time overwhelming hospitals with not enough respirators and other medical equipment to treat the very sick. This is happening in Italy and is starting in France.

Donald J wrote:

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I said in another thread that this is very bad.
How many parents will miss work, a fairly decent chance some a health care providers.

I’m 59 and never experienced anything like this. I was 26 in 87 when the market crashed and didn’t really give a crap! In 88 we paid 11% on our first home loan.

The rebound is what’s going to matter. Minimum deaths. It’s like an invisible tsunami.

I’m in town so breakfast the Cobblestone cafe in WBL tomorrow morning!

If I am going to get bored as hell.. I at least want to get a buzz on

Yet we will have sick people going to the crowded stores to get meds and groceries! More sick people go to the store than a restaurant. Also more space in most cases!

All restaurants and bars? So some small town restaurant that seems 100 people a day that is 100 miles from any case of COVID 19?

I’m of the opinion again that this is getting out hand. Cancelling large events, concerts and any large gathering I can see. But blanket full closures?

mplspug wrote:

All restaurants and bars? So some small town restaurant that seems 100 people a day that is 100 miles from any case of COVID 19?

I’m of the opinion again that this is getting out hand. Cancelling large events, concerts and any large gathering I can see. But blanket full closures?

I have a friend runs a sport bar about 3 blocks from my house. He posted on the Book he’s not shutting down they are going to have to arrest him which they probably will. I think he has the money to wait this out for a little while but a lot of these small business do not. They literally live today on yesterdays income. That’s just the way a lot of these small bars and cafe’s and even larger restraunts operate. Going to be a number of these not coming back.

Joe Scegura wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dan wrote:</div>

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Joe Scegura wrote:</div>
So next year when the flu starts to come around in November or December… are we shutting everything down again? New normal?
I hope Mr. Walz realizes his attempt to save lives will also ruin many.

What would you suggest be done then to control this extremely fast-spreading virus? Just let it keep going?

Wash our hands and be cautious. Do you really feel like this will help? Do you think people won’t socialize with each other just because they closed bars and restaurants?

All this will do is put thousands on unemployment and crush many businesses to the ground.

I have no skin in the game so he can do whatever floats his boat but I feel for all those affected.

Why the resistance to common sense? Everyone feels for those affected and yes, it will help if things get bad. Everything was taken into account before the decision was made.

We look at the real numbers instead of the scary ones. I’ll base this on China.

3 in every 50,000 Chinese tested positive for it. 1 in 400,000 Chinese has died from Corona virus.

I see a situation where the majority of us are forced to take unpaid leave. I just dont know how long it will last. Long enough to completely change the next year or so. Things your were going to do or buy, postponed.
Looks like its back to simpler pleasures for a while.

mplspug wrote:

We look at the real numbers instead of the scary ones. I’ll base this on China.

3 in every 50,000 Chinese tested positive for it. 1 in 400,000 Chinese has died from Corona virus.

In two weeks everything should open back up again. Evaluate for a while then do it again if necessary. They say the only reason to close everything is to mitigate the flow of sick people to the hospital. That death rate is not even remotely close to enough to justify crashing our economy.
Speaking of hospitals they say the vast majority show minor symptoms and dont need hospital care.

catmando wrote:

If I am going to get bored as hell.. I at least want to get a buzz on

That is a hell of a campaign slogan, sir

Donald J wrote:

We sure can blame it on Walz and all the libtards in this state who keep electing Dumbocrats

Debbie is easier ID than a green sunfish.

God forbid people gather and have fun in restuarants,bars,movie theatres,or bowling alleys.Nevermind the grocery stores,daycare centers,office buildings,public transportation,pharmacies,bigbox stores,malls.Many of these small business’will be shuttered for good if this continues for long.Im sure they wont mind,if in closing their doors for good just one person was spared being sick.

I’m hoping that lenders, utilities, basically any over head that service industry has to deal, with give people a grace period.

Florida bars and night clubs shut down for 30 days and restaurants can only seat at 1/2 capacity. 30 DAYS

So much for seeing the family in 3 weeks.

Ice Cap wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mplspug wrote:</div>
All restaurants and bars? So some small town restaurant that seems 100 people a day that is 100 miles from any case of COVID 19?

I’m of the opinion again that this is getting out hand. Cancelling large events, concerts and any large gathering I can see. But blanket full closures?

I have a friend runs a sport bar about 3 blocks from my house. He posted on the Book he’s not shutting down they are going to have to arrest him which they probably will. I think he has the money to wait this out for a little while but a lot of these small business do not. They literally live today on yesterdays income. That’s just the way a lot of these small bars and cafe’s and even larger restraunts operate. Going to be a number of these not coming back.

Ya I thought it was funny the governor said in his speech that small business’s will be give low interest loans to offset their losses due to this. Just what a already struggling small business needs another debt with added interest

suzuki wrote:

I see a situation where the majority of us are forced to take unpaid leave. I just dont know how long it will last. Long enough to completely change the next year or so. Things your were going to do or buy, postponed.
Looks like its back to simpler pleasures for a while.

In the Governors speech he said everyone will be allowed unemployment for their lost work time with no waiting period. He said ” it wont be enough to make people whole – but at least it something ” Why not make the benefit 100% of lost wages and make everyone whole. I’m curious if for those in the Bar and restaurant business if that unemployment is based on Hourly wage or if it includes Tips lost. Most of bar and restaurant workers income come by way of Tips – 2/3 of their hourly wage will not help them much at all.

fishthumper wrote:

Why not make the benefit 100% of lost wages and make everyone whole.

I agree. In fact, I think the budget surplus should go toward initiatives to support those out of work and to fight this outbreak. Yes, that will likely cause an issue down the road somewhere, but if people have no income or not enough, IMO that is far worse.
I have close friends that own a bar. They also work full time so this likely will not completely cripple them, but their employees will certainly be impacted.
Since Andy is in the technology business I told him we should set up Zoom rooms or Skype for all the regulars and we could social distance ourselves with each other at a distance. I think it would be funny. I would really like to hear from the retired guy who certainly wont be going out into public now. Super opinionated, but he is always a hoot.
Other states are closing liquor stores now? This is going to get real.
A coworker and I often joked about how we here in the Midwest never get the opportunity to loot because we never have natural disasters. Well, our time could be coming.

fishthumper wrote:

Why not make the benefit 100% of lost wages and make everyone whole.

Because that is not how unemployment works, and changing it would impact the long term viability of the Unemployment Fund finances along with having to deal with the thousands of people already on unemployment pre-Covid-19 (seasonally unemployed etc.).

If Wisconsin doesn’t change its mandate soon, they will be essentially inviting the virus to infect their population. WI Governor Tony Evers is not shutting bars/restaurants down, just limiting them no more than 50 people or 50% capacity (whichever is smaller) allowed at a time. Now every desperate fool who can’t go to MN bars/restaurants will be heading to WI, some of them will undoubtedly be carrying the virus with them. Until the executive order is changed, those establishments will probably be gouging patrons with a hefty cover charge. Plenty of people are willing to pay good money to raise their level of exposure to the virus if it increases the odds they might get laid.

mplspug wrote:

All restaurants and bars? So some small town restaurant that seems 100 people a day that is 100 miles from any case of COVID 19?

I’m of the opinion again that this is getting out hand. Cancelling large events, concerts and any large gathering I can see. But blanket full closures?

This!

In regards to unemployment, currently, if employees file, the employer’s cost of unemployment insurance becomes higher the next 2-3 years!

This will have a lasting impact on may parts of our lives. Scary times.

In regards to unemployment, currently, if employees file, the employer’s cost of unemployment insurance becomes higher the next 2-3 years!

This will have a lasting impact on may parts of our lives. Scary times.

Correct me if I am wrong, I am pretty sure listening to the news conference last night that they said they would not penalize businesses for employees using unemployment.

DaveB wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mplspug wrote:</div>
All restaurants and bars? So some small town restaurant that seems 100 people a day that is 100 miles from any case of COVID 19?

I’m of the opinion again that this is getting out hand. Cancelling large events, concerts and any large gathering I can see. But blanket full closures?

This!

In regards to unemployment, currently, if employees file, the employer’s cost of unemployment insurance becomes higher the next 2-3 years!

This will have a lasting impact on may parts of our lives. Scary times.

I thought they said this will not affect the employers unemployment insurance.

Karry Kyllo wrote:

Why the resistance to common sense? Everyone feels for those affected and yes, it will help if things get bad. Everything was taken into account before the decision was made.

CaptainMusky, Werm, DaveB and Munchy, your minds should be at rest. Karry said “Everything was taken into account before the decision was made!”

That’ll make the people loosing their businesses feel much better. There’s a local bar here that’s doing quite well but they have EVERYTHING invested and said there is no room for a slow down… now this. I hope they pull through.

mplspug wrote:

We look at the real numbers instead of the scary ones. I’ll base this on China.

3 in every 50,000 Chinese tested positive for it. 1 in 400,000 Chinese has died from Corona virus.

Not really a good comparison because China can impose draconian measures that we cannot. Like literally locking down an entire city of 11 million. Their government and society is not the same as ours. Comparing a European country like the UK or France or Spain is a better comparison/model.

I think it will affect more densely populated areas than it will more rural areas. Eventually the rural areas might get some trickle down effect, but living in a big city seems like a potentially-worse case scenario right now.

Joe Scegura wrote:

Karry Kyllo wrote:
Why the resistance to common sense? Everyone feels for those affected and yes, it will help if things get bad. Everything was taken into account before the decision was made.

CaptainMusky, Werm, DaveB and Munchy, your minds should be at rest. Karry said “Everything was taken into account before the decision was made!

Well then I can rest easy! And remember if you question any decisions or present actual numbers of the infection, you are really just rooting for people to die. Do not question our gov’t overlords, for they are here to help and resistance is futile. (end sarcasm)

BigWerm wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>fishthumper wrote:</div>
Why not make the benefit 100% of lost wages and make everyone whole.

Because that is not how unemployment works, and changing it would impact the long term viability of the Unemployment Fund finances along with having to deal with the thousands of people already on unemployment pre-Covid-19 (seasonally unemployed etc.).

I don’t think they would have a problem keeping those unemployed prior to and those unemployed due to this separate. They have already made changes to the current policy by waving the waiting period – What’s one more exception ???