Releasing Hook in Fish Study

  • mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1563683

    Seems promising, but I imagine pike are a bit more hardy. I’d like to see the same experiment on other species.

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    The article discusses the study. There is a link to an article about the study in that page.

    Discuss…

    JD Winston
    Inactive
    Chanhassen, MN
    Posts: 899
    #1563737

    This was a good read. Thanks. Seems like there is a million dollar idea out there for fast dissolving hooks that still perform like the traditional ones.

    I imagine needing to put a fresh set of hooks on all my lures before using them and ensuring they are removed and dry before putting them away. A disposable hook of sorts. Good for only so much time in the water.

    Now that creates a need for easy attach and detach methods because split rings suck. On top of that, creating a “hook strength” device to test your hook strength before each use would also be needed.

    I need an investor.

    FryDog62
    Posts: 3696
    #1563874

    Very good read, thx… The study I would like to see is a gut hooked bass or walleye. I don’t know how many times I have seen this happen, especially when wacky-worming with relatively small hooks that get swallowed. I crush the barbs and go in the gills to get out but that’s just the fish I catch. The ones that snap the line and swim away … You wonder what really happens.

    Northerns are different, kind of like Chuck Norris. They probably actually like getting hooked and figuring a way out..

    roottwo
    Posts: 72
    #1563875

    I like to just cut the hook with a side cutter or knipex sort of tool. It at least makes me feel like the fish stands a fighting chance of making it.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1563879

    This was a good read. Thanks. Seems like there is a million dollar idea out there for fast dissolving hooks that still perform like the traditional ones.

    I imagine needing to put a fresh set of hooks on all my lures before using them and ensuring they are removed and dry before putting them away. A disposable hook of sorts. Good for only so much time in the water.

    Now that creates a need for easy attach and detach methods because split rings suck. On top of that, creating a “hook strength” device to test your hook strength before each use would also be needed.

    I need an investor.

    Get a hold of gabe. He might already be working on it though.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1563880

    How many times have ya pulled the hook out enough to remove it, with gut attached, and watched as the stomache,throat, whatever? suck itself back in immediately.

    Always wonder which is a better route? How much harm was done by pulling?

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1563886

    Matt lol

    I need to find a really good cutter that is powerful, but also can be used on smaller fish, one that is compact. I’m open to suggestions. What are knipex? I have no problems cutting a hook when possible. I’d rather lose a prong off a treble than leave a lure in or tear a fish up trying to get the hook out. The problem is usually it’s tight quarters and I have a good chance of nipping the stomach which would be worse.

    FryDog62
    Posts: 3696
    #1563894

    I agree, I have side cutters but unless it’s a 17+ inch fish, it’s hard to open the mouth enuf to get in there… Would like to hear suggestions on something compact to use…

    john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2578
    #1563902

    There was a study done on muskies that swallowed a sucker with a single hook. The results were not good – they released well but died eventually. Wish I had a link to it. To me, the best thing I learned for releasing fish caught on live bait was going in through the gill to pull a hook out of the gullet. I can usually get them out with minimal damage which makes me feel a lot better about the release.

    roottwo
    Posts: 72
    #1563905

    Look for knipex mini bolt cutters. They’re like a respectable pair of needle nose pliers. You could cut a 3/0 hook deep in a 14″ bass with them. Not a lot of force is needed. The rest of the hook comes out pretty easy with some forceps. Often times going through the gills is the gentlest way like already mentioned.

    If you’re trying to remove a #6 octopus hook from a 16″ walleye… This cutting process doesn’t work as well.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1563921

    Pug, the ski guys (Tim) turned me on to knipex a few years ago. I haven’t released a flat with a hook in it since.

    Once cut, grab the point of the hook and out it comes.
    ‘Course flats have a very large mouth to work in…your milage will vary.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1563924

    I’ll check them out. Does Home Depot carry them?

    I’m not even concerned with leaving part of a hook in the fish. I figure they can deal with that. I’m more concerned with tearing when you try pulling up the stomach trying to access the hook. Or pulling it when it’s precariously close to the gills.

    joc
    Western and Central, NY
    Posts: 440
    #1564065

    I’ve heard from NYS DEC that if the pike has it’s potective slime removed by string_net – over_handling it can get infected and die. In this regard they are sensitive.
    It’s very tough for me to believe that a gill or gut hooked fish stands much of a chance.

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