Recreational pot

  • Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20324
    #1830825

    Until it is off federal crime status & it’s totally legal to grow your own, nobody will truly be able to afford it. I wish they’d make it legal cause I’d finish the basement and save a lot of money on meds.

    What do you mean be able to afford it?
    Yes it’s still officially illegal but the state will not prosecute nor punish. And you will be able to grow up to x amount of plants. You need help with medicine I bet its affordable all over your neighborhood right now

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    #1830826

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Thomas Nichols wrote:</div>
    Until it is off federal crime status & it’s totally legal to grow your own, nobody will truly be able to afford it. I wish they’d make it legal cause I’d finish the basement and save a lot of money on meds.

    What do you mean be able to afford it?
    Yes it’s still officially illegal but the state will not prosecute nor punish. And you will be able to grow up to x amount of plants. You need help with medicine I bet its affordable all over your neighborhood right now

    Being still federally illegal, then you are ineligible to own a firearm while in possession of weed…… then it’s still a federal felony to possess a firearm as an ineligle person. That needs to be changed or any sportsman or carry permit holder, that owns a firearm, is in trouble.

    I don’t own any firearms & I give blood, so I couldn’t partake at the moment anyways. I have heard that dispensaries , where legal, have such high prices that those who are not wealthy cannot afford it, so they end up buying from street dealers, which is still illegal in Colorado. Seems like if it was to be made totally legal at state & federal levels, I’d be a basement grower for my own personal use. Big pharma and the tax man won’t likely ever allow it. I wish they would.

    phishingruven01
    Inactive
    southeast lower michigan
    Posts: 300
    #1830830

    People brew their own beer, make their own wine.
    Yet, most people buy that stuff in a store.

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    Inactive
    MN - 55082
    Posts: 1644
    #1830837

    Lots of folk’s basements are too full of brewed up morality and judgement to fit any plants down there.

    The sad truth is anyone with $$ in a managed retirement plan is likely supporting drug addiction. Many want it this way.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20324
    #1830838

    For what is affordable my brother in law lives near the inlaws in Colorado and he engineers helicopter switches in dash ( something like that) and he is a daily smoker. He buys the oil and uses it in a “vape pen”thing. As a daily smoker he said he goes through about 65 bucks per month. When I went to a dispensary if your some wild stoner and want to try every strain and all the goodies with it, then yeah I bet it gets spendy. For a normal guy like my dad who is rolling pinners I can’t imagine it would be to bad. The issue with the federal laws and such is just another issue. And many grey areas

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22718
    #1830868

    For what is affordable my brother in law lives near the inlaws in Colorado and he engineers helicopter switches in dash ( something like that) and he is a daily smoker. He buys the oil and uses it in a “vape pen”thing. As a daily smoker he said he goes through about 65 bucks per month. When I went to a dispensary if your some wild stoner and want to try every strain and all the goodies with it, then yeah I bet it gets spendy. For a normal guy like my dad who is rolling pinners I can’t imagine it would be to bad. The issue with the federal laws and such is just another issue. And many grey areas

    Exactly, its not like someone is going to smoke this stuff to the tune of 2 packs of cigarettes a day.

    Mudshark
    LaCrosse WI
    Posts: 2973
    #1830877

    Make punishment harsher for user and seller.

    Spend billions more on prisons and enforcement? Why? For a plant?
    We’ve been trying this for over 70 years and it’s obviously not working….

    Jonesy
    Posts: 1148
    #1830888

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bearcat89 wrote:</div>
    Protest it ? Go with those people I seen out side the planned parenthood. Grab a chunk of cardboard and a few colorful sharpies. Let your voice be heard

    You’re gonna poke fun at people with real conviction, good morals, and belief that every human life matters????? Wow. If that’s how you really feel, respect lost. Go ask them why they stand out there, every day? Go ahead.

    LOL paweese

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1830893

    I don’t own any firearms & I give blood, so I couldn’t partake at the moment anyways. I have heard that dispensaries , where legal, have such high prices that those who are not wealthy cannot afford it, so they end up buying from street dealers, which is still illegal in Colorado. Seems like if it was to be made totally legal at state & federal levels, I’d be a basement grower for my own personal use. Big pharma and the tax man won’t likely ever allow it. I wish they would.

    Im about 99% sure it’s legal at a state level to grow in Colorado up to a certain amount. The ability to grow does usually come with the recreational legalization at a state level. In order to be prosecuted in a state that has legalized it, you’d have to be charged and prosecuted by a federal agent. The feds have zero interest in doing this. It’s only a matter of time before it’s legsl nationwide.

    Here is my biggest issue with prohibition. In the US it is a schedule 1 drug, meaning the federal government WILL NOT recognize it as a substance for medical use. This is outrageous because the synthetic form of heroin is oxycodone, one of the most widely prescribed pain killers.

    This also means it is unethical for anyone to conduct any medical research on humans in this country. This is why we know very little about the benefits and the long term effects of the drug.

    This is why it MUST be removed from being a schedule 1 drug.

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    #1830898

    Big gill I agree …. 100% legalize it. Way better than oxy , etc….

    gizmoguy
    Crystal,MN
    Posts: 756
    #1830925

    Here is the shot of boobs you requested.

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    phishingruven01
    Inactive
    southeast lower michigan
    Posts: 300
    #1830942

    Schedule I
    Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are:
    heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote

    Schedule II
    Schedule II drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a high potential for abuse, with use potentially leading to severe psychological or physical dependence. These drugs are also considered dangerous. Some examples of Schedule II drugs are:
    Combination products with less than 15 milligrams of hydrocodone per dosage unit (Vicodin), cocaine, methamphetamine, methadone, hydromorphone (Dilaudid), meperidine (Demerol), oxycodone (OxyContin), fentanyl, Dexedrine, Adderall, and Ritalin

    Schedule III
    Schedule III drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence. Schedule III drugs abuse potential is less than Schedule I and Schedule II drugs but more than Schedule IV. Some examples of Schedule III drugs are:
    Products containing less than 90 milligrams of codeine per dosage unit (Tylenol with codeine), ketamine, anabolic steroids, testosterone

    Schedule IV
    Schedule IV drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a low potential for abuse and low risk of dependence. Some examples of Schedule IV drugs are:
    Xanax, Soma, Darvon, Darvocet, Valium, Ativan, Talwin, Ambien, Tramadol

    Schedule V
    Schedule V drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with lower potential for abuse than Schedule IV and consist of preparations containing limited quantities of certain narcotics. Schedule V drugs are generally used for antidiarrheal, antitussive, and analgesic purposes. Some examples of Schedule V drugs are:
    cough preparations with less than 200 milligrams of codeine or per 100 milliliters (Robitussin AC), Lomotil, Motofen, Lyrica, Parepectolin

    marijuana is worse than cocaine and methamphetamine. rotflol rotflol rotflol rotflol rotflol

    phishingruven01
    Inactive
    southeast lower michigan
    Posts: 300
    #1830947

    what medical use does alcohol have?

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1830961

    marijuana is worse than cocaine and methamphetamine.

    It’s amazing what a little research turns up.

    Now lookup why it became illegal in the first place.

    SuperDave1959
    Harrisville, UT
    Posts: 2816
    #1830967

    what medical use does alcohol have?

    They rub it on your skin before you get a shot. And on TV shows, they pour in on the wound before the star goes in with his hands.

    404 ERROR
    MN
    Posts: 3918
    #1830991

    Sure make it legal, then trust the person with your back in a foxhole. Get on the airplane with a smoking pilot, or engine mech. Yes I strongly dislike the idea of making it legal. Make punishment harsher for user and seller.

    Sure make it legal, then trust the person with your back in a foxhole. Get on the airplane with a drinking pilot, or drinking engine mech. Yes I strongly dislike the idea of making alcohol legal. Make punishment harsher for user and seller.

    Hmmmmmmmm whistling

    gizmoguy
    Crystal,MN
    Posts: 756
    #1831046

    Ahhhhhh forgot what I was going to say.

    craig s
    Posts: 246
    #1831057

    Some people are so against it,
    Yet those same people seem like they could benefit from a puff? smirk

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    #1831074

    I’d give up donating blood if it was decriminalized at the fed & state level both & we were allowed to grow our own, for personal use….. so then more people would die or they’d have to take my bad blood & alot of liquor stores would be out of business as well.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1831088

    I’d give up donating blood if it was decriminalized at the fed & state level both & we were allowed to grow our own, for personal use….. so then more people would die or they’d have to take my bad blood & alot of liquor stores would be out of business as well.

    Blood donation rules only prohibit the use of illegal drugs. If medical research was feasible, this may not even be a concern.

    Gino
    Grand rapids mn
    Posts: 1212
    #1831310

    Another hat available , comes with free depth checker. whistling

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    phishingruven01
    Inactive
    southeast lower michigan
    Posts: 300
    #1831315

    yeah mon! one love

    Gino
    Grand rapids mn
    Posts: 1212
    #1831324

    That’s funny, I told my wife I was going to post the hat and she said ( don’t do it you don’t know what they’ll say to you ) ha ha . I told her don’t worry everything’s going to be all right. toast

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20324
    #1831325

    That’s funny, I told my wife I was going to post the hat and she said ( don’t do it you don’t know what they’ll say to you ) ha ha . I told her don’t worry everything’s going to be all right. toast

    toast just keep a open mind. We arnt talking meth or some nasty chemical drug.

    mossydan
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts: 7727
    #1831327

    Just my 2 cents worth from what I seen about Colorado. Since it was legalized in Colorado they have found that teen age use has gone down, not up as would be most commonly thought. Ya its got its problems too just like any intoxicant but what most dont realize its a milder intoxicant when too much is taken. Seen another report about Portugal and they legalized all drugs and the results they have found is that hard core drug addiction has gone down and not up but recreational use has gone up. Over all legalization has done less harm to the general population then keeping it criminalized, to me its a social problem and action and should be handled as such instead of a real crime which hurts alot more people then the users, I could go on and this is just my input. You’ll always have drug pushers and trafficers when its illegal, where theres a buck to be made someone will try to do it. To me its harm reduction for the over all society because there will always be drugs around, the last 60 years proves it.

    Kurt Turner
    Kasson, MN
    Posts: 582
    #1831381

    Couple added thoughts to this complex sociological evolution:

    Is marijuana a gateway drug or are hard drug (heroin, meth, crack) users pre-destined? I dunno?

    What part is big Pharma playing in the delay for our feds to support the “benefits” for the chosen disease stated? NIH funding to learn more about the good AND bad of weed. Needs LOTS and LOTS of intense, quality research. Just think how this naturally grown plant could provide millions with pain relief at an affordable cost. Novel concept if you know anything about the corrupt world of big Pharma works. Stakeholder and Shareholder payouts over affordable meds. Many cannot afford the outrageous price gouging structure.

    Personally, I have mixed feelings and like most, worry about the negative impact of the scary, undefined future impact.

    One thing I recall from 30 years ago when having closer friends experimenting? The whiskey/booze drinkers normally wanted to pick a fight after a fun evening of partying. The pot smokers never engaged in such obnoxious behaviors. I’ll never forget that observation. The boozers would drive over speed and either get lucky from totally a vehicle and hurting nobody but their vehicle or sadly, taking someone’s life. Often an innocent bystander. Weed smokers? Driving SLOW yet if you talked to them they felt like they were ‘flying.’

    Reefer madness? Is it really happening, again?

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