Really impressed with my Tucr and Elliot rods.

I have fished several times already with the Tucr Noodle and Bullwhip. Both are great actually like the Bullwhip A hint better. The Elliot rod is awesome for the smaller 3mm jigs. I did find out after attempting one more time to try inline reels they are getting returned Junk in my opinion. I like the rods so much when I went back to the Tickle sticks They seemed like junk rods not saying they are but what a difference, I have decided to sell the rest of my rods and keep these 3 rods maybe getting another one I only jig and don’t do minnows or set lines to busy moving usually. I would much rather have these 3 rods then a bunch you don’t use. Just thought I would give a little up date. The bride used the Noodle and said when did you get this one it’s awesome! Oh just one I had lying around

Inline reels are definitely not junk, they have a place and time. And if your not jigging then anything will be fine. Jigging is where the rod comes In. The tickle stick still has many days it is very handy. And my other Rods sit In the case.

I bought two 13 fishing inline reels last year to try. sold them half way through the season and completely hated them. were slow to drop bait down, always seemed like they were getting tangled, and the drag system sucks on them

True Bear Cat The in lines for me every time I went for a hook set my finger would hit the trigger losing the fish. Drove me nuts. In 8 FOW with a camera the inline spun. With the spinning reel with a 1000 size spool very little spin same lures. Actually caught more on the Spinning reels. Tickle sticks are good rods but they tend to crack/split at the end after a while. The better rods if you will are not mushy and I can feel the uptick of a bite better.

What elliot rod did u go with?

Elliott makes some nice stuff. I just wish they would sell their hard water blanks like they do with soft water. I hate the inline reels with the quick trigger release. But love inline reels. I have 10 rods with BB6061 on them. Just replace the drag grease. Each their own and it depends on the inline reel.

Did you know that Batson enterprises makes the blanks for TUCR and a large list of other companies with just different tappers? Batson makes the blanks for most of the custom rod companies that were at the ice show. It would not be hard to duplicate most of the custom rods out there with modifying a similar blank on a lathe. (not that I would want to or like all of their tappers) But those Elliott blanks are one of a kind. To me the most impressive rod that was at the Ice show was Elliott Evolution ES44L-F.

mrpike1973 wrote:

I did find out after attempting one more time to try inline reels they are getting returned Junk in my opinion.
The in lines for me every time I went for a hook set my finger would hit the trigger losing the fish.

I am not sure how operator error makes a product junk. That’s like saying all bait feeder reels are junk because you forget to take off the secondary drag when you set the hook.

Rodwork wrote:

Elliott makes some nice stuff. I just wish they would sell their hard water blanks like they do with soft water. I hate the inline reels with the quick trigger release. But love inline reels. I have 10 rods with BB6061 on them. Just replace the drag grease. Each their own and it depends on the inline reel.

Did you know that Batson enterprises makes the blanks for TUCR and a large list of other companies with just different tappers? Batson makes the blanks for most of the custom rod companies that were at the ice show. It would not be hard to duplicate most of the custom rods out there with modifying a similar blank on a lathe. (not that I would want to or like all of their tappers) But those Elliott blanks are one of a kind. To me the most impressive rod that was at the Ice show was Elliott Evolution ES44L-F.

Batson is a blank manufacture of the highest caliber. And they produce proprietary designs for many companys. What’s your point?

Dan Baker wrote:

Batson is a blank manufacture of the highest caliber. And they produce proprietary designs for many companys. What’s your point?

I agree with you Dan. They are of the highest caliber. I buy many blanks from them. No point, just fun fact I found out from talking to all the custom rod shops at the ice show and slow morning at work. TUCR make a nice product. I am not bashing them.

Rodwork wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dan Baker wrote:</div>
Batson is a blank manufacture of the highest caliber. And they produce proprietary designs for many companys. What’s your point?

I agree with you Dan. They are of the highest caliber. I buy many blanks from them. No point, just fun fact I found out from talking to all the custom rod shops at the ice show and slow morning at work. TUCR make a nice product. I am not bashing them.

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. FWIW, I agree that the 44″ Elliot rods are intriguing.

Rodwork wrote:

To me the most impressive rod that was at the Ice show was Elliott Evolution ES44L-F.

Rodwork, how did the ES44L-F compare to their ES44UL-XF? What panfish applications/baits for each would be best? Thanks!

KwickStick wrote:

Rodwork, how did the ES44L-F compare to their ES44UL-XF? What panfish applications/baits for each would be best? Thanks!

They both felt nice and had a good back bone to them. One could use both rods for walleye fishing even though they are marked for panfish. If there was a good wind I feel it would affect the tip on the ES44UL-XF to the point where I would want a shorter rod to use my body to block the wind. The ES44L-F felt like it would be perfect for jigging 1/16 to 1/8 ounce baits. The ES44UL-XF might be able to handle up to 1/16 oz baits (but there will be some extra flex on it) and 1/32 oz should work well. That extra flex could be a good action for a small ripping rap style of lure. It is hard to say since I never ice fished with that long of a rod and only felt it. The rod may react different fishing with it at such an angle to the hole. All I know for sure is I want to try both. The rest is just me guess from feel.

Rodwork wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>KwickStick wrote:</div>
Rodwork, how did the ES44L-F compare to their ES44UL-XF? What <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>panfish applications/baits for each would be best? Thanks!

They both felt nice and had a good back bone to them. One could use both rods for walleye fishing even though they are marked for panfish. If there was a good wind I feel it would affect the tip on the ES44UL-XF to the point where I would want a shorter rod to use my body to block the wind. The ES44L-F felt like it would be perfect for jigging 1/16 to 1/8 ounce baits. The ES44UL-XF might be able to handle up to 1/16 oz baits (but there will be some extra flex on it) and 1/32 oz should work well. That extra flex could be a good action for a small ripping rap style of lure. It is hard to say since I never ice fished with that long of a rod and only felt it. The rod may react different fishing with it at such an angle to the hole. All I know for sure is I want to try both. The rest is just me guess from feel.

That’s very good and honest info. Thanks!

mrpike1973 wrote:

I did find out after attempting one more time to try inline reels they are getting returned Junk in my opinion.

I’m with you pike on Inline reels. I’ve tried 3 or 4 times to give them another shot and just don’t like them. I’ve tried all the popular models and none of them worked good for me. I won’t have one on a rod this ice season !!!

I don’t know about the 44UL XF for walleye. That rod only flexes 12 inches from the tip then it’s a solid backbone the rest of the way down the rod.

Maybe split shot and minnow, or demon with a minnow? You could get some good hook sets in deeper water but I don’t know if this rod would absorb head-shakes from big fish very well.

30 inch Noodle extra fast rod PmB Anything that makes me lose fish is not useful to me For $75 buck inline I have $30 spinning reels with better drags and worked well. My Opinion but they are overhyped. If they work for you great use them then For me it’s like putting in a phillips head screw with a torx bit may work but not the correct tool.

Bottom line is, everybody fishes differently to some nuances.

I would say I like my Bullwhip better than my PN but I think it’s because it’s just a little more versatile. As far as inline reels, I tried the 13’s Ghosts, Freefalls, cheap knockoffs, and the new ones Clam came out with last season. Couldn’t stand em. However at the end of last season I got tipped off on the Genz Spooler Elite inline reel by some of the guys fishing the UPL.

I decided to get one and put it on my noodle and it’s the only inline I’ve ever enjoyed. You have to strip the line out which has always annoyed me about many inlines, but once you have a fish on, you just let go of the reel knob and the drag takes over. It has a guide for the line to come off the spool too which I really like. I’ve gotten some nasty birds nests from inlines. It’s also half the price of the other higher end inlines.

I like the bullwhip for 1/32 spoons soft enough not to rip there lips but back bone when you need it.

the myth is that in-line reels prevent jigs from spinning, not true. So if you have some other reason to buy one, ok. Just remember your rod creates most of the action, when you hook the fish the rod does most of the work there too.

Spot on Tim!

tim hurley wrote:

the myth is that in-line reels prevent jigs from spinning, not true. So if you have some other reason to buy one, ok. Just remember your rod creates most of the action, when you hook the fish the rod does most of the work there too.

I do think they limit the spinning to a point. You still get some but it’s much less that a spinning rod.

There’s a lot of physics that involves a lot of motions and dynamics to spin and flow.

Fact that a spiral coil will induce spin.
Fact that a s curve coil will not induce spin.

If the lure is inducing spin, then it doesn’t matter which reel type you use.

I’ve got both inline reels and spinning and like them both. I use the inlines for shallow shack sight fishing, and when in deeper water I like my spinning reels. But I really prefer my long rods with the dinky cheap inline most of all.

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Thanks for posting the picture with the crate and rod holders. I was going to drill rod holders on the side of my sled. Going to copy that design tonight.

Milk crate plus pvc pipes = darn great ice rod holders.

Easy to do with good ol’ zip ties. I had to go with 2″ PVC pipe in order for my long rod reels to drop in. I put together another crate for normal ice rods using an old vacuum cleaner extension pipe that I cut up. I can set that one behind me in my flip shack. Just need some ice now!

Blatant thread highjack!

Here is the final arrangement. Farm & Fleet had nice sale on the camo Jet Sled, so I put on some hyfax runners and had to see how everything fits. My old sled was worthless (almost).

On days I fish deep water (rare) I take the other crate with the tighter tubes and put the short rods in the rod holders at the truck. On a cold shanty day or sight fishing the same smaller crate rides in the flip-over. The long rods travel better in the tube cases.

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