"Rapidly changing ice conditions"

  • tindall
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1104
    #1668621

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>ERIKJ wrote:</div>
    Pull ur head out of your rearend and do something about it if you think it is a problem. If you think its pollution then ride a bike to your fishing hole and leave your boat at home. Humans have no control over weather patterns. We think we do but in the end we cant do a thing about it. The u.s can change policy to be green and blah blah but countries like china and india could care less about pollution.

    Uh, China has embraced climate science and has one of the most aggressive renewable energy plans on the planet:

    http://www.newsweek.com/china-invest-360-billion-green-energy-2020-reduce-pollution-538844

    And India is doing cool things too:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/india-delhi-bans-disposable-plastic-single-use-a7545541.html

    Outdated stereotypes of backwards countries “over there” don’t hold water anymore in light of facts.

    troutbum
    St. Paul
    Posts: 524
    #1668658

    Video from a newbie’s truck being extracted from Gull Lake.

    See how a truck gets towed after falling through Minnesota lake ice

    troutbum
    St. Paul
    Posts: 524
    #1668659

    Evidently I suck at the Internet. The video is on the homepage of Pioneer press

    deertracker
    Posts: 9249
    #1668701

    See how a truck gets towed after falling through Minnesota lake ice

    TipUpFishOn
    Posts: 153
    #1668902

    moral of the story, don’t drive a chevy

    Well the red truck that went through was a Ford and the white truck that went through was a GMC I believe so…

    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3860
    #1668904

    This has got to be a new one for the IDO community….we got politcal banter AND the Ford vs. Chevy argument going in the same thread!

    sticker
    StillwaterMN/Ottertail county
    Posts: 4418
    #1668928

    Uh, China has embraced climate science and has one of the most aggressive renewable energy plans on the planet:

    http://www.newsweek.com/china-invest-360-billion-green-energy-2020-reduce-pollution-538844

    And India is doing cool things too:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/india-delhi-bans-disposable-plastic-single-use-a7545541.html

    Outdated stereotypes of backwards countries “over there” don’t hold water anymore in light of facts.

    A guy at work just got back from 2 weeks in China for work. I think he would disagree with your idea of them cleaning up the air. If they are, they have a LONG LONG way to go. doah It’s not really a stereotype if it’s true…

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1668934

    Outdated stereotypes of backwards countries “over there” don’t hold water anymore in light of facts.

    Oh those were good for a laugh. China issues red alert on smog and India responsible for 60% plastic in the ocean and suddenly with some proposals they are world leaders in being green. rotflol rotflol

    Round House
    Posts: 73
    #1668950

    I normally don’t get involved in this type of political discussion however when I see hypocritical comments on here I just have to add in. Please see below what Erik J wrote and what the response was. Then look at what nhamm posted about red alert smog and 60% plastic from India in the ocean. Do you really still think humans have nothing to do with weather patterns if there is red alert smog and plastic in the ocean? The smog and plastic wasn’t put there by magic. So if you feel like you can’t do something about it and everyone felt that way then what is the point?
    I am not an environmentalist however I am not going to believe that we don’t have effect over climate and weather with articles like this https://www.nps.gov/hfc/pdf/imi/tel311/grca_site_bulletin_be.pdf and….. http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/top-10-smoggiest-cities-in-us/
    I am probably the last one to think this way but I do believe that Washington and people can make a difference.

    Don’t get me wrong I will still drive to my fishing destination and drill my holes with my strikemaster gas auger. It’s just the thought that nothing can be done or being ignorant to the problem that drives me up a wall.

    ERIKJ wrote:

    I’m not holding out hope…but maybe someday soon we’ll get those morons now running Washington to accept that climate change is real, and actually do something about while an ice belt in America still exists…

    yeah I remember those days when it never got above 32 in winter… back in BC 10,000 or something. Amazing how things have changed so soon.

    Pull ur head out of your rearend and do something about it if you think it is a problem. If you think its pollution then ride a bike to your fishing hole and leave your boat at home. Humans have no control over weather patterns. We think we do but in the end we cant do a thing about it. The u.s can change policy to be green and blah blah but countries like china and india could care less about pollution.

    Round House
    Posts: 73
    #1668956

    Did you guys even read this article even about China? It didn’t say they were pollution free right now. As a matter of fact they are putting these measures in and plan to have it in place by 2020 since they recognize they have a problem (thus my previous comment about making a change). So if your work buddy from work just got back and noticed how bad it was he would be right since these measures haven’t been put in place yet. Yes they do have the worse smog in the world right now because these measures haven’t been put in place and will not be in effect until 2020. Read the link! It even states 2020 in the link.

    Joe Scegura
    Alexandria MN
    Posts: 2758
    #1668957

    Hey guy’s what’s the point of wrecking a perfectly good thread??

    How about that ice? The link to that video was interesting. Ice looks to be about 4″ thick…

    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1668972

    Hey guy’s what’s the point of wrecking a perfectly good thread??

    How about that ice? The link to that video was interesting. Ice looks to be about 4″ thick…

    Agreed! If those want to discuss/debate Global Warming and Climate Change…start a new topic and have fun with that thread.

    Our current concern is “RAPIDLY CHANGING ICE CONDITIONS”
    This was a comment from Steve Fellegy to a Jim Staricha on FB, they guy who pulls submerged vehicles out of Mille Lacs.
    “No snow on the ice…cold temps will, potentially , open the cracks ( already did about a foot wide last night) so your “fishing” should or could become better in the next few days/next week. The “fish” can drive anywhere….and might find the “traps”.
    Point being is that there still is “RAPIDLY CHANGING ICE CONDITIONS”.
    Be careful out there, stay on marked roads or renegade at your own risk! shock

    Bass Thumb
    Royalton, MN
    Posts: 1200
    #1668992

    All in a thread about ice conditions…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23305
    #1669017

    I think the main point/sarcasm in this post was the sensationalizing and “fake news” the media portrays. They are always looking for clicks. This same stuff happens every year. You have idiots driving in channels that are never safe. You have others breaking trail and wanting to save time by cutting across a pressure ridge. This has nothing to do with “rapidly changing” ice conditions or global warming. Its always this way. Some people are stupid. End of story…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23305
    #1669130

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
    I think the main point/sarcasm in this post was the sensationalizing and “fake news” the media portrays. They are always looking for clicks. This same stuff happens every year. You have idiots driving in channels that are never safe. You have others breaking trail and wanting to save time by cutting across a pressure ridge. This has nothing to do with “rapidly changing” ice conditions or global warming. Its always this way. Some people are stupid. End of story…

    I’m so sick of people calling other people stupid…I’m starting a protest and will be marching down interstate 94 this weekend to advocate “no child left behind” so no one else is “mentally challenged” enough to drive where they shouldn’t…who’s joining me?

    I will be busy fishing otherwise mark me down as a definite maybe. ;-)

    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1669417

    #7 pulled from Mille Lacs today! Jim Staricha out there again for the recovery. This one was easy, didn’t break through all the way to the bottom.

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    Bass Thumb
    Royalton, MN
    Posts: 1200
    #1669429

    Where did that happen? It doesn’t look like a terribly huge crack they drove over. I could see someone driving over that if they weren’t paying close attention, checking Navionics on their phone or something.

    People make mistakes. We all have, every one of us. It doesn’t necessarily make a person stupid. It’s awfully easy to judge people you’ll never meet on an Internet forum.

    crappie55369
    Mound, MN
    Posts: 5757
    #1669430

    What are you talking about it thought we were all meeting next month for the great IDO get together! And be sure I’ll be judging you but it will be based on how many hamms you drink not by whether your truck is sinking or not.

    tindall
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1104
    #1669433

    I’ll be judging you but it will be based on how many hamms you drink not by whether your truck is sinking or not.

    I want to meet this guy.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23305
    #1669436

    People make mistakes. We all have, every one of us. It doesn’t necessarily make a person stupid. It’s awfully easy to judge people you’ll never meet on an Internet forum.

    relax, who called anyone stupid here?

    Bass Thumb
    Royalton, MN
    Posts: 1200
    #1669440

    I think the main point/sarcasm in this post was the sensationalizing and “fake news” the media portrays. They are always looking for clicks. This same stuff happens every year. You have idiots driving in channels that are never safe. You have others breaking trail and wanting to save time by cutting across a pressure ridge. This has nothing to do with “rapidly changing” ice conditions or global warming. Its always this way. Some people are stupid. End of story…

    Bass_attack
    Posts: 292
    #1669445

    Wait…we complaining about all the metro folks litering and you guys up north keep dropping trucks in lakes? So disappointed…

    Coming up around ice out watch for the thread about the “fish house blocks” causing massive destruction of shoreline and some boats on on mille lacs. Trucks and blocks are the litter of choice in the north land.

    If we can add one more topic to this thread I think people are getting better this year about litter. Never thought it would slow down but I have iced fished more this year than ever and I do not see as much trash as years passed.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23305
    #1669451

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
    I think the main point/sarcasm in this post was the sensationalizing and “fake news” the media portrays. They are always looking for clicks. This same stuff happens every year. You have idiots driving in channels that are never safe. You have others breaking trail and wanting to save time by cutting across a pressure ridge. This has nothing to do with “rapidly changing” ice conditions or global warming. Its always this way. Some people are stupid. End of story…

    I’m sorry you missed the focus or the target of my comment but it was most certainly not directed at anyone here!
    More like the people who chose to drive across a busted up pressure on mille lacs in cove bay and went through, or the guy who drive out from the summer access on horseshoe that is never safe. Know your surroundings and don’t make stupid mistakes.
    What you also neglected to understand was the fact that I mentioned these things happen every single year and it has nothing to do with “rapidly deteriorating ice conditions” like the media wants you to believe. Take precautions and be smart about venturing into the ice and this stuff doesn’t happen.

    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1669457

    Where did that happen? It doesn’t look like a terribly huge crack they drove over. I could see someone driving over that if they weren’t paying close attention, checking Navionics on their phone or something.

    People make mistakes. We all have, every one of us. It doesn’t necessarily make a person stupid. It’s awfully easy to judge people you’ll never meet on an Internet forum.

    Just reporting what happened…again! Whose judging people on an internet forum? You? Which I think you have!
    Sure mistakes happen, although many can be avoided. As I previously posted, stay on the marked resort roads and follow advice given, or go your own way and take your chances. No one should feel sorry for you. Good luck!

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