Racist post

  • kabefisherman11
    Posts: 201
    #1704625

    Let me say this. The Hmong population is growing not just in number but also in influence. As was said before most of this population came over around the Vietnam war. These people were really poor when they came over and are now a very productive part of our population. As a whole they have higher test scores higher employment rates and overall higher success rates within the public school systems. So you want to bash people for illegally keeping fish. Fine… There there are rules and everyone should follow them… but don’t lump all people into the same group as a few bad eggs. That’s like saying all white deer hunters are poachers. Just saying in a few generations the Hmong will have top flight pro fishermen count on it.

    Iowaboy1
    Posts: 3791
    #1704627

    what gets me is this,its July 15th and its summer time and you should be outside doing something other than digging for something like this and stirring a pot that doesnt warrant it period,get a life for crying out loud.

    I am a born in the USA white male who has English,Cherokee,Irish,and Jewish blood running in my veins,not only that,I was a child born out of wedlock which use to be a sin and I will tell you that I paid for my parents sins all through school and then some.
    if every time I opened my mouth about something that could be taken as racist,I would be knocking the snot out of myself every five minutes.

    political correctness is an unsustainable delusional belief that you can pick up a turd by the clean end.

    rant over,anyone got any good fishing reports??

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16658
    #1704628

    My mouth is so full of words other people are putting in I can’t even spit.

    I made a statement regarding what I had witnessed. The people involved just so happened to be Hmongs. They could have been Swedes or Blacks for all it matters. Facts are facts, I saw what I saw. I at no time called out a whole race or nationality of people. I was very clear on what I saw and why I thought those people were getting away with it. Anybody have a problem with that, tough, not my problem.

    To be called Racist is very interesting to me. Of all the people on this site I have personally met maybe 8 or 10 in person. Of those if they called me racist, well that would be there opinion. To those that never met me to say I am racist by reading a thread seems a bit over the top to me, but what the hell.

    Am I a Racist? Umm, I know the answer to that and all the rest of you are just guessing. grin

    And no….I’m still not apologizing. lol

    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1704629

    For the record, tilapia are not Florida fish. Let’s swing this topic to AIS.

    Is it AIS, I’ve been drinking. That’s what we Floridaians do.

    You’ve been drinking…so has Lucy.

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    kabefisherman11
    Posts: 201
    #1704630

    Db I’m not insinuating you are a racist. I know you saw what you saw and are reporting it. Nor am I saying you should apologize. Im only saying to the people out there that the issue of poaching goes beyond race. Just like the u of m rule with not identifying suspects of crimes with race. Good luck finding suspects

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16658
    #1704631

    Db I’m not insinuating you are a racist. I know you saw what you saw and are reporting it. Nor am I saying you should apologize. Im only saying to the people out there that the issue of poaching goes beyond race. Just like the u of m rule with not identifying suspects of crimes with race. Good luck finding suspects

    My response wasn’t directed towards you, just in general.

    We are good.

    kabefisherman11
    Posts: 201
    #1704633

    I know it wasn’t directed at me. I do loathe people that are so sensitive that they can’t objectively look at the facts of what’s being said.

    Walleyestudent Andy Cox
    Garrison MN-Mille Lacs
    Posts: 4484
    #1704634

    Jeepers…

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    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10436
    #1704637

    Fishing off my dock drinking margaritas and getting skunked.
    Reading this post and fwiw when i first heard of political correctness i realized it was the beginning of the end. You can

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10436
    #1704638

    Fishing off my dock drinking margaritas and getting skunked.
    Reading this post and fwiw when i first heard of political correctness i realized it was the beginning of the end. You can’t make all the people happy all the time.

    I just had a bite, I’ll get back to you

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10436
    #1704639

    Nope, just weeds

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1704823

    73.0 °F
    Feels Like 73 °F
    Wind Variable
    Gusts 9.0 mph

    Today is forecast to be nearly the same temperature as yesterday.

    Roughly 20 fish caught it 2.5 hours
    Largest was a 21 all others 14.75 or smaller.
    Dubuque Rig
    7-12 fow
    1.7 to 2.1 mph

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1704829

    Roughly 20 fish caught it 2.5 hours
    Largest was a 21 all others 14.75 or smaller.
    Dubuque Rig
    7-12 fow
    1.7 to 2.1 mph

    Did you toss em all in a Bucket? smirk

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1704831

    LOL! Leave it to Jeff! )

    No. But we wanted a photo of the 21″ as it was Ear Ring Boy’s personal best. He held it up with one hand and “splash” back into the river she went. I told him that now…it’s just a story.

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 4288
    #1704886

    @nhamm, @Pool2Fool

    Agree with what you guys are saying. This isn’t a Hmong or race issue…I’ve seen all types poaching on the river.

    I also agree that the Hmong fisherman I watch on the shore of P2 are some of the best fisherman I have ever seen. They usually double or triple up anyone near them.

    hnd
    Posts: 1579
    #1704899

    the hmong people are definitely a reality in our river system down here. during our dnr meetings they struggle to enforce the rules and laws with many of them because of the language barrier and many of them have no ID or anything.

    they are usually very nice to interact with in my opinion and usually literally have no idea of our customs and regulations. They are all about sustinence consequences be damned. NOW there are definitely some who know what they are doing is wrong and just don’t care but i know people of all shapes and colors who are like that.

    404 ERROR
    MN
    Posts: 3918
    #1704925

    I’ll just leave this here.

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    Whateverbites
    Posts: 138
    #1705136

    Good Morning,

    I didn’t plan on addressing the responses, but here it goes.

    I never once said I was offended, I don’t get offended and have not right to get offended as I am white male. The word I used was disappointed, which I continue to be in in some of the members of this site.

    Can a discussion be had about over harvesting, absolutely. But blanket statements shouldn’t be made saying that one particular race is the problem. For example, I am 99% sure the kid next me is dealing drugs, I don’t say that I have a African American problem, but I do have an issue with an individual who is disregarding the law.

    Overharvesting has been done by several different generations and people groups. For instance, look at the pictures from when the Linders started out their career. They had large stringers of 5+ lb bass. I imagine that had a significant impact on the lakes they fished. Just as they figured out the importance of selective harvesting, it appears other will catch on as well.

    As sportsmen I feel we should hold ourselves to higher standards, when I was an officer in the Air Force we placed a high emphasis on self-policing. If another officer was out of line, it was expected that others would call them out to correct the issue. If I were to say something hostile like this, I would have expected to be corrected.

    I also volunteer with a non-profit organization that gets kids out fishing, I have taken Hmong families out fishing a few times now, and they seem very excited about the sport of fishing. In America, every generation becomes a little less interested in fishing then the generation before it. If this pace continues sportsmen will be too small of a group to have any political pull and the sport we love can be in jeopardy. Actions like the poster I called out is not helping to welcome in a demographic that can help keep a demand for fishing alive and well, especially in the twin cities area.

    There is zero need for racist comments on these posts. If you have issues with specific people groups keep it to yourself.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1705142

    Very good post Whateverbites! waytogo

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