Brandon just executive order to raise vehicle milage to 40 mpg in 5 years. Can’t afford gas by then and won’t be able to afford electric and that milage goal will raise prices. Another way he wants to get rid of fossil fuels.
Brandon just executive order to raise vehicle milage to 40 mpg in 5 years. Can’t afford gas by then and won’t be able to afford electric and that milage goal will raise prices. Another way he wants to get rid of fossil fuels.
And in 3 years the next president will executive order to reverse Brandon’s. 40 MPG on a gas engine (especially a towing pickup) is not feasible nor realistic.
I have likely bought my last new vehicle. So what the clown show in Washington does today or in 8 years won’t bother me. My next purchase will be a touring motorcycle that will get over 40 mpg.
Cue the little red hen.
Going to be a lot more bicycle riding going on. 
Why would this increase the price of vehicles? Why can’t you afford electric?
Ford ’22 trucks went up approx 2k earlier this month depending on the options and their size. Another round is supposedly coming 1st qtr.
Pretty soon the loaded 150 will be 80k+ and the loaded 350 will be 90-100k.
The government is getting what they wish. Nobody is bitching about 15 per hr wages anymore beside the customers themselves.
Electric vehicles once becoming mass produced and entering the mainstream are far less expensive to produce. As a matter of fact, electric ice augers are so dang simple and cheap to make, the manufacturers of them are laughing all the way to the bank…but I’ll pay for how much nicer they are to operate. Haven’t had to clean a carb yet. I stick it in the corner after my last trip out and never touch it till I’m back on the ice. It’s been golden for going on 5 years without a hiccup…priceless
If it wasn’t for government incentives very few could afford electric. It has been documented seems only upper middle buy, why is this ? some day these will disappear.
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Going to be a lot more bicycle riding going on.
…an electric bicycle??? I own 2 and they are a lot of fun…
If it wasn’t for government incentives very few could afford electric. It has been documented seems only upper middle buy, why is this ? some day these will disappear.
Auto manufacturers will charge what customers are willing to pay. Electric are the fastest selling segment. Polaris’s newly debuted electric ranger sold out in 30 minutes.
You will always have those that prefer gas to electric, much like some would rather have a 1955 Chevy over a 2021 Prius Hybrid. Personal preference.
You will always have those that prefer gas to electric, much like some would rather have a 1955 Chevy over a 2021 Prius Hybrid. Personal preference.
I ride motorcycles and love them all. I have a 1949 Indian on one end and a 2015 KTM 1190 on the other. While I love my old iron, I could not even fathom using them as daily drivers compared to my modern bikes…no friggen way.
So when have vehicle prices ever gone down??
So when have vehicle prices ever gone down??
In essence they have gone down. In 1961 comparing median income vs average price of a new car, 75% of your income went to buying that new car. In 2020, the median income vs average cost of a new car dropped to 66%.
And in 3 years the next president will executive order to reverse Brandon’s. 40 MPG on a gas engine (especially a towing pickup) is not feasible nor realistic.
Combined mileage. A towing pickup will not be expected to get 40 mpg. With a mix of fully electric and gas engines in a manufacturers lineup, there will be no trouble hitting the 40 mpg. I’d be surprised if all manufacturers greatly exceed it by then.
*With six turbos and a 1.5L engine that lasts 100k miles.
How will the US electrical grid handle this transfer of energy consumption, and how come I can’t see any plans in regards to that as well? Seems like it should go hand in hand.
How will the US electrical grid handle this transfer of energy consumption, and how come I can’t see any plans in regards to that as well? Seems like it should go hand in hand.
agree, never no talks on this, I would guess this would eat up the whole infrastructure bill and still not be enough. They better get those shovels in the ground soon. Can’t see how it will happen without nuclear energy which they don’t want
most people have no clue where that electricity comes from or how its made. all they know is how to plug things into the wall and they think and magical unicorn makes all the power. And nobody mentions where are all these junk batteries gonna go?
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How will the US electrical grid handle this transfer of energy consumption, and how come I can’t see any plans in regards to that as well? Seems like it should go hand in hand.agree, never no talks on this, I would guess this would eat up the whole infrastructure bill and still not be enough. They better get those shovels in the ground soon. Can’t see how it will happen without nuclear energy which they don’t want
its not just nuclear power that they do not want. they dont want any fuel burned period
How will the US electrical grid handle this transfer of energy consumption, and how come I can’t see any plans in regards to that as well? Seems like it should go hand in hand.
The same way we did when everyone got central air conditioning. A big part of the plan was passed by Congress earlier this fall.
This conversation does remind me of 6-8 years ago. I remember this forum laughing at the eclectic augers that will never work. Now, every body has one, or a drill. I’m sure back in the day people laughed at the car itself, but never underestimate good old American ingenuity
How will the US electrical grid handle this transfer of energy consumption, and how come I can’t see any plans in regards to that as well? Seems like it should go hand in hand.
I bought a generator for my house as are alot of the linemen I work with. That’s all I’m saying…..
How will the US electrical grid handle this transfer of energy consumption, and how come I can’t see any plans in regards to that as well? Seems like it should go hand in hand.
My nephew works in New England predominantly in the NY area and they are going like gangbusters upgrading the grid. Big cities are first priority for upgrades.
most people have no clue where that electricity comes from or how its made. all they know is how to plug things into the wall and they think and magical unicorn makes all the power. And nobody mentions where are all these junk batteries gonna go?
The vast majority of these batteries will be recyclable.
Maybe a question for MNdrifter. Electricity is admittedly one of my weaknesses. Mostly having a Dad that was an electrician that I helped as a kid. That worked circuits live, way to much. I use rubber gloves to change the batteries in a flashlight now. But a Tesla has a 72 amp charger. Wouldn’t take 4 of your 20 amp breakers. If you have central air and electric range. Wouldn’t that be about 160 amps of your 200 amp service? That leaves 40 amps to run the rest of your house. God help you if you go all out for the 250 amp super charger. I know my 100 amp booster on my battery charger will run off a wall outlet. So maybe you can explain. Also, If half of a 50 year old housing addition. Put in another 100 or 200 amp panel. Would the service lines and transformers etc. handle that without replacing? With electrical wire and components at highest prices ever.
On another note. Had dinner with a 40+ year Chevy salesman friend. We were talking electric cars. Last word from GM to Volt customers. Don’t charge over 80%, and whatever you do. Don’t park it in your garage or near anything you don’t want burnt up. Till they figure a few things out.
I think people are misunderstanding that the 40mpg thing is the total fleet not every vehicle produced. As companies produce more and more electric that will easily trend their total fleet over the 40 mpg. Look how Toyota got away with the Tundra being such terrible mileage for so long compared to other manufacturers. Its because the rest of their fleet made up for it.
Maybe a question for MNdrifter. Electricity is admittedly one of my weaknesses. Mostly having a Dad that was an electrician that I helped as a kid. That worked circuits live, way to much. I use rubber gloves to change the batteries in a flashlight now. But a Tesla has a 72 amp charger. Wouldn’t take 4 of your 20 amp breakers. If you have central air and electric range. Wouldn’t that be about 160 amps of your 200 amp service? That leaves 40 amps to run the rest of your house. God help you if you go all out for the 250 amp super charger. I know my 100 amp booster on my battery charger will run off a wall outlet. So maybe you can explain. Also, If half of a 50 year old housing addition. Put in another 100 or 200 amp panel. Would the service lines and transformers etc. handle that without replacing? With electrical wire and components at highest prices ever.
On another note. Had dinner with a 40+ year Chevy salesman friend. We were talking electric cars. Last word from GM to Volt customers. Don’t charge over 80%, and whatever you do. Don’t park it in your garage or near anything you don’t want burnt up. Till they figure a few things out.
i think the faster and bigger chargers are a higher voltage which equals less amps
Coal fired electric cars…
Everyone seems to think electricity just flys out of a unicorns A$$.
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