How much damage? A lot I skinned one for a friend a few years ago that was hit in the neck/throat with an .06. All that was holding the head on to the rest of the skin was a 4″ strip I have not tried any 90 gr bullets so cannot comment on that. Any of the rounds designed for deer hunting will destroy the hides no matter where you hit them. But, this is coming from my point of view since I sell the hides. If you just want bits and pieces of the hides for crafts, any calibre will work to kill them. I am just more concerned with as little damage as possible when I hunt them
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30.06 for yotes?
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September 29, 2006 at 9:05 pm #21654
Thanks Mr Watson. Appreciate the info. I still in a loop as what to do. I don’t have the cash to buy 2 guns. I thought I could get away with 1 do it all gun. I have always wanted a 30.06… but then again, I hunt deer where there is quite a bit of brush around… knowing the rifle bullets can and do ricochet… I almost want to stick to a shotgun. I supposed ideally I should go for a 12 gauge and a .223. But the cost would be more than I can deal with right now. By the way, if you don’t mind me asking… how many yotes you get a year on average?
September 29, 2006 at 9:05 pm #484176Thanks Mr Watson. Appreciate the info. I still in a loop as what to do. I don’t have the cash to buy 2 guns. I thought I could get away with 1 do it all gun. I have always wanted a 30.06… but then again, I hunt deer where there is quite a bit of brush around… knowing the rifle bullets can and do ricochet… I almost want to stick to a shotgun. I supposed ideally I should go for a 12 gauge and a .223. But the cost would be more than I can deal with right now. By the way, if you don’t mind me asking… how many yotes you get a year on average?
September 29, 2006 at 11:19 pm #21656Out west-That all depended on the number of ranches I hunted. But easily over 100 a year.
In this area I feel lucky to get 5 a year when strictly calling. But, that will change as I get more familiar with hunting wooded terrain. there is a HUGE difference between west and east of the Mississippi. I don’t believe the coyotes are any smarter in the east, but the terrain makes it tougher.
The open country west of the river has a high population of coyotes but food sources are less abundant. You can also see the coyotes long before they have a chance to see you first. Since the food supply is scarcer, they readily respond to calling.
East of the river adds many more challenges to the predator hunter. We may have as high or higher of a population of coyotes, but the terrain makes hunting them much tougher. With the wooded areas and the hilly terrain, coyotes can and do see or smell you long before you even know they are there. The food supply here is also plentiful almost year around. So, when you have more food, they predators are not as hungry. One other major factor is the human population. In the east there is a lot more human interaction which makes the coyotes more wary.
If you can shoot coyotes in the east while calling, you have done something that is very difficult to do for even the most experienced.September 29, 2006 at 11:19 pm #484196Out west-That all depended on the number of ranches I hunted. But easily over 100 a year.
In this area I feel lucky to get 5 a year when strictly calling. But, that will change as I get more familiar with hunting wooded terrain. there is a HUGE difference between west and east of the Mississippi. I don’t believe the coyotes are any smarter in the east, but the terrain makes it tougher.
The open country west of the river has a high population of coyotes but food sources are less abundant. You can also see the coyotes long before they have a chance to see you first. Since the food supply is scarcer, they readily respond to calling.
East of the river adds many more challenges to the predator hunter. We may have as high or higher of a population of coyotes, but the terrain makes hunting them much tougher. With the wooded areas and the hilly terrain, coyotes can and do see or smell you long before you even know they are there. The food supply here is also plentiful almost year around. So, when you have more food, they predators are not as hungry. One other major factor is the human population. In the east there is a lot more human interaction which makes the coyotes more wary.
If you can shoot coyotes in the east while calling, you have done something that is very difficult to do for even the most experienced.September 30, 2006 at 2:01 am #21666I am a newbie yote hunter myself, last year being my first year out and nothing to show for it. I am using a Howa.223 with a sniper 6*24*50 illuminated scope with built in rangefinder. Now as far as a .06 I have no clue but have been told way to much power that is why I chose the .223 plus being ex military I am familiar with the round .223.
But I have enjoyed reading some of the posts thus far that have been brought up about this type of hunting. I got a call last week from a farmer asking me to come out and clean his land of these predators. But being sick and all I have had to wait but he said they are there and they are waking him all hours of the night so hopefully I can get out there this weekend/week coming up.
Any ideas on how to call these yotes in would greatly be appreciated. I am hunting the clearwater area near St.Cloud thousand plus acres. I have a electronic call and a three other blow calls ranging from squeeks to jack rabbit squeels.. Thinking about buying some decoys rabbits etc. But been told to hunt a fence line along the corn and tie on a coon tail or pheasant wing and let it blow in the wing and they will come a running for it is this true?September 30, 2006 at 2:01 am #484239I am a newbie yote hunter myself, last year being my first year out and nothing to show for it. I am using a Howa.223 with a sniper 6*24*50 illuminated scope with built in rangefinder. Now as far as a .06 I have no clue but have been told way to much power that is why I chose the .223 plus being ex military I am familiar with the round .223.
But I have enjoyed reading some of the posts thus far that have been brought up about this type of hunting. I got a call last week from a farmer asking me to come out and clean his land of these predators. But being sick and all I have had to wait but he said they are there and they are waking him all hours of the night so hopefully I can get out there this weekend/week coming up.
Any ideas on how to call these yotes in would greatly be appreciated. I am hunting the clearwater area near St.Cloud thousand plus acres. I have a electronic call and a three other blow calls ranging from squeeks to jack rabbit squeels.. Thinking about buying some decoys rabbits etc. But been told to hunt a fence line along the corn and tie on a coon tail or pheasant wing and let it blow in the wing and they will come a running for it is this true?September 30, 2006 at 2:38 am #21669let’s start with the decoy question. the purpose of a decoy is to get the attention of the predator toward the decoy and away from your calling position. Decoys can be anything from store bought decoys to a child furry stuffed animal. With a decoy you will need to have it where a coyote will be able to see it from a distance. If it is on the ground in 2 feet tall weeds, it will be useless.
The .223 is the ultimate calibre for predators so you are good to go there.
Telling you where to call is tough without seeing the property. But, the big thing is the wind. If at all possible, call into the wind. Also try to set-up where you think the coyotes will be coming from and where you will be able to see them coming. The greater distabce you can see them coming the better. It is tough to get them to cross open areas during the day, but it is possible. Once the corn fields are cut, this is an excellent place to set-up early and late in the day. The coyotes will come to these fields searching for mice and other animals to eat. If the woods are open enough to see pretty good, hit them also. Talk to the farmer and see where he has seen and heard the coyotes lately. This will give you the best starting point on where to begin. When going to your stand sites, try not to be seen by the coyotes while getting there. Also, use distress calls when you are just starting to hunt coyotes. Howling is best saved until later in the year and once you get the hang of the distress calls. I have better luck with the hand calls than I do with electronic calls. I can manipulate the sounds of the hand calls better than the e-callers. this to me gets a more realistic sound with more “emotion”.September 30, 2006 at 2:38 am #484247let’s start with the decoy question. the purpose of a decoy is to get the attention of the predator toward the decoy and away from your calling position. Decoys can be anything from store bought decoys to a child furry stuffed animal. With a decoy you will need to have it where a coyote will be able to see it from a distance. If it is on the ground in 2 feet tall weeds, it will be useless.
The .223 is the ultimate calibre for predators so you are good to go there.
Telling you where to call is tough without seeing the property. But, the big thing is the wind. If at all possible, call into the wind. Also try to set-up where you think the coyotes will be coming from and where you will be able to see them coming. The greater distabce you can see them coming the better. It is tough to get them to cross open areas during the day, but it is possible. Once the corn fields are cut, this is an excellent place to set-up early and late in the day. The coyotes will come to these fields searching for mice and other animals to eat. If the woods are open enough to see pretty good, hit them also. Talk to the farmer and see where he has seen and heard the coyotes lately. This will give you the best starting point on where to begin. When going to your stand sites, try not to be seen by the coyotes while getting there. Also, use distress calls when you are just starting to hunt coyotes. Howling is best saved until later in the year and once you get the hang of the distress calls. I have better luck with the hand calls than I do with electronic calls. I can manipulate the sounds of the hand calls better than the e-callers. this to me gets a more realistic sound with more “emotion”.September 30, 2006 at 3:55 am #21673Thank you for the input and I will definetly approach this differently. I will also select to leave the electronic call at home and work the distress calls. I have been practicing all summer and watching my yote videos trying to mock them and doing pretty good at it.. So I will cross my fingers and try the approach as you stated and will let you all know how it turns out.
As for the coyotes on the property right,the farmer said they are along the corn field and they have counted 4 of them. So if I make it before they move on I should be able to pluck one but I may select to bring the Ar-15 and with that said I tend to think if I make my mark right I may be able to drop three of the four. I will be pretty upset with myself if I cant get two though. But with the golden plump chicken farm right next store I think these guys wont be going anywhere to soon. I may just have to take a couple different approaches towards them once they know of my precense.
September 30, 2006 at 3:55 am #484266Thank you for the input and I will definetly approach this differently. I will also select to leave the electronic call at home and work the distress calls. I have been practicing all summer and watching my yote videos trying to mock them and doing pretty good at it.. So I will cross my fingers and try the approach as you stated and will let you all know how it turns out.
As for the coyotes on the property right,the farmer said they are along the corn field and they have counted 4 of them. So if I make it before they move on I should be able to pluck one but I may select to bring the Ar-15 and with that said I tend to think if I make my mark right I may be able to drop three of the four. I will be pretty upset with myself if I cant get two though. But with the golden plump chicken farm right next store I think these guys wont be going anywhere to soon. I may just have to take a couple different approaches towards them once they know of my precense.
September 30, 2006 at 4:08 am #21674The coyotes shouldn’t leave the area. They have specific territories and rarely stray from them. If they do, they get their butt kicked by the other packs. Do not be suprised to have more than 1 come in to a call. On a ranch in Holyoke, CO I called in a pack of 6 coyotes. That was the neatest most intense stand I have ever had. I still play that memory in my mind quite a bit. I have called several doubles and countless singles. If you get a double, that would be awesome. It is tough to do but people do it.
If you do get a shot and do not connect, the coyotes will still stay in the area, but they will be wiser. Then you will have to give that exact area a little time to cool off. You will also want to use a different sound or call and call from a different location. They get educated real quick. Good luck out there and I can’t wait to hear how it went. Wether you kill some or not, let us hear about the experienceSeptember 30, 2006 at 4:08 am #484268The coyotes shouldn’t leave the area. They have specific territories and rarely stray from them. If they do, they get their butt kicked by the other packs. Do not be suprised to have more than 1 come in to a call. On a ranch in Holyoke, CO I called in a pack of 6 coyotes. That was the neatest most intense stand I have ever had. I still play that memory in my mind quite a bit. I have called several doubles and countless singles. If you get a double, that would be awesome. It is tough to do but people do it.
If you do get a shot and do not connect, the coyotes will still stay in the area, but they will be wiser. Then you will have to give that exact area a little time to cool off. You will also want to use a different sound or call and call from a different location. They get educated real quick. Good luck out there and I can’t wait to hear how it went. Wether you kill some or not, let us hear about the experienceOctober 8, 2006 at 3:52 pm #22119Well, Got my hands on a Coyote Killer… Bought a Savage .223… Came equiped with a simmons scope and bi-pod. I have heard that Savage’s are pretty good… but am skeptical on the scope. Have you heard anything about these? Just about ready to go yote hunting!!! One last question… as far as hunting late… is it legal/illegal to hunt at night? I know that you can’t use artificial lights until Jan… do you or anyone hunt past sunset without lights?
October 8, 2006 at 3:52 pm #486778Well, Got my hands on a Coyote Killer… Bought a Savage .223… Came equiped with a simmons scope and bi-pod. I have heard that Savage’s are pretty good… but am skeptical on the scope. Have you heard anything about these? Just about ready to go yote hunting!!! One last question… as far as hunting late… is it legal/illegal to hunt at night? I know that you can’t use artificial lights until Jan… do you or anyone hunt past sunset without lights?
October 8, 2006 at 7:11 pm #22120I have 2 Savage rifles equipped with Simmons scopes, and I am very happy with both. Sure they are not Swarovski or Leupold, but I am also your typical hunter. A hunter that has a family, has an average job, and does not hunt full time so they are great rifles and scopes for THIS hunter
On the lights, what state are you hunting in? I usually use a light only for the kill. I don’t use them to scan the fields or woods, just when I know the animal is close enough to kill. Legal or not, I want to be able to identify my target BEFORE I pull the trigger. When I hunt at night it is usually during the full moon, but I haven’t had much luck at night on coyotes, but I have on the coonOctober 8, 2006 at 7:11 pm #486790I have 2 Savage rifles equipped with Simmons scopes, and I am very happy with both. Sure they are not Swarovski or Leupold, but I am also your typical hunter. A hunter that has a family, has an average job, and does not hunt full time so they are great rifles and scopes for THIS hunter
On the lights, what state are you hunting in? I usually use a light only for the kill. I don’t use them to scan the fields or woods, just when I know the animal is close enough to kill. Legal or not, I want to be able to identify my target BEFORE I pull the trigger. When I hunt at night it is usually during the full moon, but I haven’t had much luck at night on coyotes, but I have on the coonOctober 9, 2006 at 1:28 pm #22129Well, AM, I am in MN. Got out for my first try last night. Started in one spot at about 3, Tried that for an hour but the sun wouldn’t work with us… only spot we had to try had us looking into the sun. Too much reflection. So we tried another spot… nothing doing. At about 5, we moved to a friends place where we KNOW there are yotes about. We know about at least 2 Dens in the area… Set up… We think one came within about 150 yards in some hardwoods… but the wind just wouldn’t cooperate. I think it got a sniff of us and was gone. Strange thing was, this area is a place where you can hear the yotes on just about any night… But last night, for some reason, they just weren’t howling. Was quite strange. Gonna try again in a few days. Got the fever. lol. Thanks for all of the advice! hopefully in a few days… I will be able to post a pic of my first kill.
October 9, 2006 at 1:28 pm #486940Well, AM, I am in MN. Got out for my first try last night. Started in one spot at about 3, Tried that for an hour but the sun wouldn’t work with us… only spot we had to try had us looking into the sun. Too much reflection. So we tried another spot… nothing doing. At about 5, we moved to a friends place where we KNOW there are yotes about. We know about at least 2 Dens in the area… Set up… We think one came within about 150 yards in some hardwoods… but the wind just wouldn’t cooperate. I think it got a sniff of us and was gone. Strange thing was, this area is a place where you can hear the yotes on just about any night… But last night, for some reason, they just weren’t howling. Was quite strange. Gonna try again in a few days. Got the fever. lol. Thanks for all of the advice! hopefully in a few days… I will be able to post a pic of my first kill.
October 10, 2006 at 5:13 pm #22220Calling for snow the next 2 days,
There still howling like crazy all over the place. Might have to dust off the calls and maybe give it a try here in the next 2 days if it doesn’t get windy.October 10, 2006 at 5:13 pm #487381Calling for snow the next 2 days,
There still howling like crazy all over the place. Might have to dust off the calls and maybe give it a try here in the next 2 days if it doesn’t get windy.October 10, 2006 at 9:27 pm #22229Dodge Boy-
That just isn’t right at all. I won’t be getting after them until the gov’t sheep season is over the way things are going now at workOctober 10, 2006 at 9:27 pm #487452Dodge Boy-
That just isn’t right at all. I won’t be getting after them until the gov’t sheep season is over the way things are going now at work
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