Hastings Dam~ You’re Next ~Fish Passage Ways

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    February 10, 2011 at 1:25 pm #1315838

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    associated performance criterion is to provide year-round fish passage for native migratory fishes through
    Locks and Dams 2 and 3 by 2025.

    An impending threat to the northern reaches of the Upper Mississippi River ecosystem is the invasion of
    Asian carp. Asian carp (bighead and silver carp) have established reproducing populations in Pool 18,
    north of the high hydropower dam at Lock and Dam 19 at Keokuk Iowa. Individual bighead carp have
    been found as far north as Lake Pepin, just downstream from Lock and Dam 3. Asian carp are large,
    strong-swimming fish that can swim upstream through most of the Upper Mississippi River navigation
    dams either through the dam gates during periods of high river discharge or through the locks during the
    navigation season. Unfortunately, there are currently no effective barrier technologies that would prevent
    the eventual invasion of Asian carp into the upper river.
    A properly designed fishway at Lock and Dam 3 would probably not have any effect in speeding the
    invasion of Asian carp northward into Pool 3 but would contribute to larger and more resilient native fish
    populations. A fishway at Lock and Dam 3 will be designed with a water control structure at the upstream end to allow the fishway to be closed when large aggregations of Asian carp are in the tailwater.

    Fact Sheet <<

    dfresh
    Fridley, MN
    Posts: 3053
    February 10, 2011 at 2:14 pm #936044

    So is it going to be some guy’s job to monitor the number of carp in the water?

    herb
    6ft under
    Posts: 3242
    February 10, 2011 at 2:16 pm #936046

    Educated IDIOTS
    Can’t ask for more than that.

    farmboy1
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 3668
    February 10, 2011 at 2:22 pm #936053

    Quote:

    So is it going to be some guy’s job to monitor the number of carp in the water?

    Where can I apply??? Sounds like a great gig

    dfresh
    Fridley, MN
    Posts: 3053
    February 10, 2011 at 2:25 pm #936056

    Maybe they can get a 250,000.00 sonic carp counting system custom made?

    “Oh no Bill, the carp alarm is going off! Quick, shut the gate!”

    herb
    6ft under
    Posts: 3242
    February 10, 2011 at 2:30 pm #936062

    I guess it’s sometimes easier on the heart to laugh at than get mad at these hucksters.

    dfresh
    Fridley, MN
    Posts: 3053
    February 10, 2011 at 2:36 pm #936068

    Replacing the Coon Rapids dam was on the list of infrastructure projects from Gov. Dayton. How much you want to bet that if they replaced it they would be inclined to put a passageway on it? The CRD is pretty much the last line of defense for the upper Mississippi..

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    February 10, 2011 at 2:53 pm #936083

    Quote:

    A properly designed fishway at Lock and Dam 3 would probably not have any effect in speeding the
    invasion of Asian carp northward into Pool 3 but would contribute to larger and more resilient native fish

    Now there’s a real “scientific” conclusion…

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18533
    February 10, 2011 at 3:00 pm #936087

    Quote:

    A properly designed fishway at Lock and Dam 3 would probably not have any effect in speeding the

    invasion of Asian carp northward into Pool 3 but would contribute to larger and more resilient native fish

    The person responsible for that quote should be flogged.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13292
    February 10, 2011 at 5:29 pm #936154

    My money is on that they will build these fish passageways on the dams but then will shut them down due to invasive species.

    walleyeben
    Albertville,MN
    Posts: 963
    February 10, 2011 at 5:34 pm #936158

    Quote:

    Quote:

    A properly designed fishway at Lock and Dam 3 would probably not have any effect in speeding the
    invasion of Asian carp northward into Pool 3 but would contribute to larger and more resilient native fish

    The person responsible for that quote should be flogged.

    or worse, do these people ever get outside!! And to use the word probably in this situation is outragous!!

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    February 10, 2011 at 6:22 pm #936168

    Quote:

    My money is on that they will build these fish passageways

    Your money, your kids money, your grand kids money and very likely your great grand kids money…

    …I kid you not!

    thegun
    mn
    Posts: 1009
    February 10, 2011 at 6:23 pm #936169

    I dont understand the wast of money! Y do people think fish cant swim right threw anyway! even on high water when the dam’s are wide open and there seems like a lot of current!

    this is nothing for fish to swim threw! my god ive seen ducks in this current swim up stream!

    Oh well! maybe it will make for a few new pitching areas!

    Mike Klein
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 1026
    February 14, 2011 at 2:36 am #937183

    Waist of time money put it to use some where else. I can think of a billion other projects that could use the money. just my 2 cents.

    mudneck_joe
    SE MN
    Posts: 409
    March 16, 2011 at 2:13 pm #947676

    ” Unfortunately, there are currently no effective barrier technologies that would prevent
    the eventual invasion of Asian carp into the upper river.”

    I can’t believe you said this.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    March 16, 2011 at 5:26 pm #947769

    Joe, to get a clear understanding of the 1st post, check out the link at the bottom of the said post.

    LOCK AND DAM 3 FISH PASSAGE IMPROVEMENT
    HABITAT REHABILITATION AND ENHANCEMENT PROJECT
    PIERCE COUNTY, WISCONSIN AND GOODHUE COUNTY, MINNESOTA
    ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT PROGRAM
    ST. PAUL DISTRICT

    I would never say anything like that.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    March 16, 2011 at 5:32 pm #947771

    Quote:

    A properly designed fishway at Lock and Dam 3 would probably not have any effect in speeding the
    invasion of Asian carp northward into Pool 3 but would contribute to larger and more resilient native fish

    I would like to know who is complaining about the size, quantity or resilientsy of the fish in either pool?

    I would love to see larger flatheads, but that has nothing to do with a dam barrier.

    JimChellevold
    Wi, Crawford Cty
    Posts: 108
    March 16, 2011 at 6:06 pm #947786

    Quote:

    Quote:

    A properly designed fishway at Lock and Dam 3 would probably not have any effect in speeding the

    invasion of Asian carp northward into Pool 3 but would contribute to larger and more resilient native fish

    The person responsible for that quote should be flogged.

    or this

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