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  • abster71
    crawford county WI
    Posts: 817
    #1315530

    What type of knot do you use to tie braid and flourocarbin leader? Also how long of a leader do you normally use? Is it nessassary to use it on the river when the water is mostly stained? Thanks for the info Eric

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18625
    #771683

    I normally use a small barrel swivel. In a pinch I use a blood knot or surgeons knot.

    jeff_jensen
    cassville ,wis
    Posts: 3053
    #771694

    knot web site Blood knot. Like to use a couple ft. of xt mono or flouro for zebra mussels, rocks etc. Tend to be on the safe side so will put a spot of super glue on the knot

    dan-tessmann
    Kieler, Wis
    Posts: 664
    #771701

    Both previous ideas are good ones. I like the blood knot the best and will use a barrel swivel also. when the water is stained you wont have to use one. I have never used a flouro leader on the river. The only time i will use one is if the water you are fishing is fairly clear. I will use one also when catfishing or going after panfish. this way if you get snagged and you have to break the line all you lose is the hook. Your weight and bobber stay put. hopefully this helps Eric. Dan

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    #771732

    I tie these all the time just add 2-3 extra twists to the braid.
    double uni knot

    G_Smitty
    New Richmond, WI
    Posts: 1359
    #771737

    uni-to-uni… it’s the best!

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #771742

    Quote:


    What type of knot do you use to tie braid and flourocarbin leader? Also how long of a leader do you normally use? Is it nessassary to use it on the river when the water is mostly stained? Thanks for the info Eric


    Lots of good suggestions here on knots. As for your question about needing the flouro / mono leader on the river my answer is an enthusiastic “no.” The walleye aren’t in the least bit dissuaded by the color line you use… to the point where you will be hard pressed to find a river guy that doesn’t tie direct with hi-vis line.

    Jesse Krook
    Y.M.H.
    Posts: 6403
    #771827

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    The walleye aren’t in the least bit dissuaded by the color line you use… to the point where you will be hard pressed to find a river guy that doesn’t tie direct with hi-vis line.


    I never had any problems with 5+ pound walleye hitting the jig or blade tied directly to the “high vis” line

    jhalfen
    Posts: 4179
    #771831

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    The walleye aren’t in the least bit dissuaded by the color line you use… to the point where you will be hard pressed to find a river guy that doesn’t tie direct with hi-vis line.


    I would go even further than that. I have about 12 spinning rods in my boat (ok, maybe that’s conservative…let’s say that I have a lot of spinning rods). Every single one is spooled up with hi-vis line….Cortland orange or Sufix yellow right now. I fish the river a lot, but also stained reservoirs (Wissota, Chippewa Flowage) and also some very clear lakes up in the Hayward WI area (LCO, Grindstone, Spider). I’ve never felt at a disadvantage when using hi-vis mono. In fact, I feel strongly that hi-vis provides me with distinct advantages over low-vis mono or fluoro. Chief among these is my ability to line watch and set the hook as soon as I see something funny with the line…..it’s not falling properly, it jumps or twitches unexpectedly, etc. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve stuck a nice fish that I NEVER felt, even when using a premium graphite rod.

    One instance where I can appreciate the use of a fluoro leader is to deal with abrasion from zebra mussels, which will do a number on mono. A short fluoro leader will help preserve baits under those circumstances.

    abster71
    crawford county WI
    Posts: 817
    #771834

    thanks for all the input guys!!!!!!!!

    scott-k
    Red Wing
    Posts: 539
    #771864

    Thanks for this post! On the river and Pepin, my experience is exactly the same–hi-vis all the way. Never had a probelm. I’ve been outfished…but that’s a different story.

    I still can’t wrap my brain around using a lindy rig on Mille Lac with hi-vis. I think the leader should certainly be low-vis or fluro.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #772171

    To the points above, all of these fish were caught using 80 pound PowerPro, using about an 8 inch leader of 80 pound PowerPro. The tag ends of the knots were left hanging out of the knot by a good 1/2 to 1 inch.

    At least in the old ‘sippi they don’t seem to mind Hi Vis!




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