Wisconsin Sauger record

  • markvan
    Owatonna
    Posts: 50
    #1312363

    I noticed that the Wisconsin record for Sauger is 5lbs 13oz. MN is like 6lbs 3oz. Does anyone know if a MN resident with a WI license can take the record while fishing the Miss?

    herb
    6ft under
    Posts: 3242
    #231624

    I’d say yes, as long as it was caught on the wisc. side of the channel and verified as such.

    rivereyes
    Osceola, Wisconsin
    Posts: 2782
    #231635

    actually I dont think so…. the rules books states that you MUST fish under the license of your resident state on border waters…. therefore I would guess you might not be able to register your fish…. sounds like another question for warden stone……

    herb
    6ft under
    Posts: 3242
    #231640

    RiverEyes, Before I let that (shot out of the saddle) feeling get to me, here’s the scenario:

    being an Iowegian or foreigner to some, and always looking for greener grasses, I hop on my best holstein and with freshly sheared Sheeba for company we find our way to Pepin. I get a non-resident Minn. license for me and wheat subways for molly and sheeba, I was told they didn’t need licenses but can’t remember why. Anyway I decide to fish the Wisc. side of the channel and holy cow, (pun intended) I catch a monster sheepshead. Down Sheeba!! Could be a record. Do I try to register it? And in which state?

    Or am I just milking with two fingers?

    rivereyes
    Osceola, Wisconsin
    Posts: 2782
    #231642

    LOL…. now being of mixed backgrounds (or just plain mixed up!) I can appreciate that story…. when I came up here from Ioway I had to sell the cow, or did I trade it for magic beans? I dunno… anyhoo….. Ifn you gotta Mn License… you HAVE to register it in Mn otherwise you will be “busted” for fishing Wisconsin without a liscense!.. and though technically this would probably be “illegal” I BET you could slip over and BUY a non-res Wisconsin License (dont let on that you did not posses it when you caught your monster!)… then come walking back in a couple of minutes later with the new state record sheepie (baaaaaaa!)….. but being from Iowa, wont you be confused because it dont really look like a sheep? I know I was the first time I saw one!!

    herb
    6ft under
    Posts: 3242
    #231644

    Ok, seriously, I was under the impression because of recipracle (spelling) agreements, that if you had either a wisc. license OR a Minn. license you were allowed to fish the whole area comprising the boundary waters. I know we can down here on the Miss. between Ia. and Wisc.

    DaveB
    Inver Grove Heights MN
    Posts: 4469
    #231645

    If a boat sinks on the boarder of MN and WI, wherer are the survivors buried (assuming the cats dont get to them first).

    You can stick your head up a butchers a*s, but I would rather take his word for it.

    herb
    6ft under
    Posts: 3242
    #231647

    holy smokes!, I just made REGULAR status. Party time!!!

    rivereyes
    Osceola, Wisconsin
    Posts: 2782
    #231648

    with a license from either state that borders the mississippi you can fish the entire channel and the backwaters that lay on the channel side of the RR tracks on either bank of the river…. reciprocity allows this…. but to register a fish as a record in a particular state would require you to have a license from THAT state….. Ive put in a query to Warden Martin Stone about this….. I dont know about the requirments for registering such fish……

    herb
    6ft under
    Posts: 3242
    #231669

    ok, thanks

    Hey wait a minute. Wasn’t even my question to begin with.

    Sorry markvan.

    Edited by herb on 07/17/01 12:39 PM.

    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4603
    #231671

    But you did have a question, if I recall correctly! Musta got wound up in that celebration last night eh? :O)

    Beaver
    Posts: 229
    #231678

    You can fish the Mississippi with a license from any bordering state. As far as which side of the channel a fish is caught on……I`ve never heard of that entering into the equation. What if you hook a monster fish on the Wis side and it runs to the MN side? Fish caught in boundary waters are under the juristiction of the state that you are licensed to fish in. MN licesne…..MN record. WI license….WI record.

    I beleive that is how it works, but I`m not Marty Stone so we”ll have to wait for his final answer. Beav

    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4603
    #231681

    I’m pretty certain Beav and Rivereyes is right. If I catch the new record smallie out of the Croix, I know it would have to be the WI record being challenged. Being a WI resident, I’m not eligible for MN records until I hit “inland waters”. So I’m feeling very positive that the reverse is true as well.

    walleyefshr
    Kansas
    Posts: 85
    #231683

    If Molly and Sheeba are under the age of sixteen they do not require a license. But, any fish they may catch must be in “your” daily limit and subsequent possession. If you want them to keep limit, but them a license…I think that may have been in your initial questioning…

    W

    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4603
    #231684

    As long as we’re diving into this, let me clarify for MN for sure. WI I believe may be different but because this addresses nonresident licenses, I’d have to get back to the WI side of the question.

    In MN, what you’re saying about “Molly and Sheeba” is correct, but there’s more. If you buy a “personal” license, those family members under the age of 16 ARE subject to your limits. However, buy a “family” license and your immediate offspring are entitled to THEIR OWN limit. The price for a personal nonresident license is $35.00. I think the family license is only $45-50 so if you’re looking at anyone else fishing for a limit, it’s worth the extra to cover the whole clan. LOL! I gotta start keeping a copy of all the regs at work with me so I have some reference!

    birdman
    Lancaster, WI
    Posts: 483
    #231686

    Still-a Kid, In Wisconsin as far as I know, as long as the youth catch their own fish they are entitled to keep them up to their daily bag limit or possession limit. The adult fishing with them is not entitled to help them fill their limits.

    I wonder why Minnesota would not allow youth to keep the fish they catch as long as they follow the regulations. It seems kinda cruel to tell a young angler that you can fish but you can’t keep what you catch

    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4603
    #231687

    But remember Birdman, I’m referring to “nonresident” licenses. A MN resident license may very well let the youth have there own limit, simply because they don’t need a license to fish anyway. I’m not sure how MN sets it up for the residents, only the Nonresidents, cuz that’s what I have to purchase and read up on. I think you’re right on the WI resident limits, but I’m still unsure how WI treats the nonresident license holders.

    birdman
    Lancaster, WI
    Posts: 483
    #231689

    Still-a – Kid, it makes sense why you wouldn’t increase the bag limit for kids fishing non-resident. I suppose some would use their kids as a tool to increase their personal bag limit. I’m not sure how Wisconsin handles nonresidents. Their family license includes children 16 to 17 years old. I would think that the younger children would be allowed to keep their limit since its not specified in the rules. It states that non-residents under 16 don’t need a license.

    predator_2
    Posts: 152
    #231693

    A resident child under 16 years does not need a license and can posess a limit of fish in minnesota.

    Edited by predator 2 on 07/17/01 09:42 PM.

    walleyefshr
    Kansas
    Posts: 85
    #231696

    MN resident child may possess a limit, a non-res child must have a license, or the family license to be able to possess a limit. This is in regards to, I imagine, a family with many children taking home limits to other states. I take my one limit of eyes back with me, for family fish feed, but if kiddo catches hers, which she usually does, they go into MY bag limit.

    herb
    6ft under
    Posts: 3242
    #231700

    Oh heck, I think I’ll just leave Molly and Sheeba to home and fish by myself. They’re more interested in grazing the salad bar anyway. One of you guys interested in adopting me? I don’t make a lot of noise in the boat and I have a large bladder. Very few pit stops.

    This thread goes in more directions than I realized. Geeeezzz

    stillakid2
    Roberts, WI
    Posts: 4603
    #231703

    Herb,

    Why should this thread be any different than the others on this board? LOL! Tangents are half the charm! Good Fishin’!

    herb
    6ft under
    Posts: 3242
    #231706

    That’s true. And I even learned about something called Family Licenses.

    rivereyes
    Osceola, Wisconsin
    Posts: 2782
    #231707

    well Herb… I could consider adoption… afterall I need someone for the PUP to “maul” .. but you have to sit in the same seat with him! maybe you can help him figure out how to not get his line tangled up in the trolling motor?

    LOL

    DaveB
    Inver Grove Heights MN
    Posts: 4469
    #231710

    Correct me if I am wrong-but my father went fishing with his grandson and wasnt sure if he could take home 2 limits. To be careful, he limited himself to 6 fish for the weekend. I read the regs from MN DNR, and from what I understood my father was OK with his fish. My nephew’s fish would count against his father’s limit. It stated that an child under 16 yrs can possess fish under the limit of his parent or gaurdian. This confused me a little, because I thought that minors could have their own limit. Can a child under 16 possess fish if a parent doesnt have a license(my brother did, but just curious). If a parent has an individual license, I assume that the family can have only one limit. So does the family license allow a limit per person?

    Like we have said before, the law seems a little vague. BTW, they were fishing Lake Vermillion which is FULL of 14-15″ walleyes. So a limit of these may only be 3lbs of walleye fillets for a weekend. Enough, but not exactly excessive harvest.

    WillB
    Minneiska
    Posts: 33
    #231712

    River Eyes:

    I am a MN. resident , my son-in-law and daughter live in Wis. He has an individual license, she has none . Can she still fish on my family license , what about my grandkids? I also have a Wi license can I take my record sheepshead to Wi if caught on the river? What about my grandkids. And do I now get to vote in Wi?

    rivereyes
    Osceola, Wisconsin
    Posts: 2782
    #231718

    I think Im suffering from overload!! *eek*… it does really get a bit complicated when your talking fishing Mn residents and Wi residents out of the same boat……. Warden Stone told me when in doubt assume the more restrictive regulation… Im still waiting for more details on the “state record” questions…..

    your daughter if she is under 21 CAN share your family license….. your grandkids if under 16 can share their Dads license but their fish count towards his limit….

    as for voting in Wisconsin…. well maybe if you didnt vote for Jesse you will be required to vote in Wisconsin next time? I dunno, but Im PRETTY sure a fishing license has no part of it!!

    LOL……

    man this must be stump the goofball day!! just cuz StillaPUP is gone fishing and there is no one else to pick on??

    Normally Jon J is the keeper of the Mn regulations!! but I have both sets of regs here….

    WillB
    Minneiska
    Posts: 33
    #231719

    That’s a interesting idea, I’d love to here Gov. Jesse explain it.

    markvan
    Owatonna
    Posts: 50
    #231721

    Wow!!! I have not been back to the board since I posted my (simple) question to RiverEyes. Thanks all to everyone who responded. It makes me feel good that everyone else is as messed up as I am! (Ha!) Since I have two licenses, MN resident and WI non-resident. I would hope that I could register my record fish under my non-resident WI license. As for the kids, they won’t clean them anyways so why should they keep a limit also.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #231722

    Ok, here’s how I understand the rules:

    MN Residents –

    Children under 16 can possess their own limit. Regardless if their parents are licensed or not. If the parents are not licensed, they cannot in any way assist in taking the fish. (ie – the parent could not net the fish for the kid.) If the parents are licensed, they can have their own limit, and a limit for each kid.

    Non MN Residents –

    Parents have non-resident FAMILY License. Kid and parents may possess their own limits

    Parents have non-resident INDIVIDUAL License. Kid’s limit counts towards parents limit.

    Non-resident kid can purchase non-resident license and possess their own limit.

    J.

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