Pool 4- How High is the Water Momma?

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2195294

    Kinda odd. I was nosing around the NWS site and they have a link to the Experimental Food graph. It only lists Stillwater and Wabasha as Moderate flooding. Everything else is minor.

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    critter 1
    Posts: 121
    #2195371

    NWS weather forecast office for our area pool five and lower four is LaCrosse. on the weather forecast page at the top is a link to the Mississippi river flood details. They have the river forecast charts and the updated as of April 11 at 3:30PM flood forecast. Also all the current stages and seven day forecast from Lake City to Guttenburg Iowa

    eyeguy507
    SE MN
    Posts: 5221
    #2195374

    seen Colvill is closing Friday

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8389
    #2195386

    NWS weather forecast office for our area pool five and lower four is LaCrosse. on the weather forecast page at the top is a link to the Mississippi river flood details. They have the river forecast charts and the updated as of April 11 at 3:30PM flood forecast. Also all the current stages and seven day forecast from Lake City to Guttenburg Iowa

    As of 1:00pm today, that specific site does not mention 2001. It compares the flood outlook to that of 2019, but unlikely to last as long.

    2019 was inconvenient and flooded low-lying areas with some damage.

    2001 damaged a lot of places that hadn’t ever faced water at that level. Many roads were also closed that hadn’t closed before. The RR and local lock and dam were closed down for quite some time as well. There was ag land that had never before made insurance claims that was forced to.

    Dan Baker
    Posts: 943
    #2195389

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>critter 1 wrote:</div>
    NWS weather forecast office for our area pool five and lower four is LaCrosse. on the weather forecast page at the top is a link to the Mississippi river flood details. They have the river forecast charts and the updated as of April 11 at 3:30PM flood forecast. Also all the current stages and seven day forecast from Lake City to Guttenburg Iowa

    As of 1:00pm today, that specific site does not mention 2001. It compares the flood outlook to that of 2019, but unlikely to last as long.

    2019 was inconvenient and flooded low-lying areas.

    2001 damaged a lot of places that hadn’t ever faced water at that level. Many roads were also closed that hadn’t closed before. The RR and local lock and dam were closed down for quite some time as well.

    I was in college at Winona for that flood. I’ll never forget it. Crazy to see the power of water and how much people came together to fight it.

    critter 1
    Posts: 121
    #2195391

    Yes I see that Bucky. They updated again today with what you said. I am afraid we will see many more changes for awhile. 2001 levels would suck
    big time.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8389
    #2195409

    Red Wing is likely to crack a top 10 water level all time. The updated stage is 14.9′ by next week Wednesday without a defined crest predicted yet. Here are the copy and pasted all time crests for Red Wing:

    (1) 20.70 ft on 04/18/1965
    (2) 18.80 ft on 04/17/1969
    (3) 18.20 ft on 04/28/2001
    (4) 18.10 ft on 04/17/2001
    (5) 17.18 ft on 04/12/1997
    (6) 17.00 ft on 04/18/1952
    (7) 16.40 ft on 04/17/1951
    (8) 15.81 ft on 04/01/2019
    (9) 15.30 ft on 06/28/1993
    (10) 14.91 ft on 05/01/1975
    (11) 14.90 ft on 04/07/1986
    (12) 14.72 ft on 04/15/2011
    (13) 14.70 ft on 06/29/2014
    (14) 14.30 ft on 04/05/1967
    (15) 12.93 ft on 03/26/2010
    (16) 12.76 ft on 05/01/2018
    (17) 12.30 ft on 06/23/2018
    (18) 11.23 ft on 05/25/2017
    (19) 10.41 ft on 07/19/2016
    (20) 10.34 ft on 06/27/2012

    My uninformed guess is that Red Wing will see somewhere between 15′ – 16′

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #2195419

    I remember 2019. I was on the river and ido all thought that was insane. rotflol
    Naw, go to the mn river near mankato after a 15′ rise and the sippi ain’t too bad.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2195444

    My uninformed guess is that Red Wing will see somewhere between 15′ – 16′

    I’m sticking with 13 to 14 but you might notice I’m not putting any money on it. )

    isu22andy
    Posts: 1803
    #2195475

    Well damnit , my lake master chips probably trash now

    Justin Laack
    Austin,mn
    Posts: 492
    #2195488

    Well damnit , my lake master chips probably trash now

    go into your settings and adjust lake level offset…

    isu22andy
    Posts: 1803
    #2195492

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>isu22andy wrote:</div>
    Well damnit , my lake master chips probably trash now

    go into your settings and adjust lake level offset…

    I’d assume flooding and high flow would adjust some sand bars , drop offs , contours in the river ? Maybe I’m wrong though ?

    barc
    SE MN
    Posts: 192
    #2195498

    I’d assume flooding and high flow would adjust some sand bars , drop offs , contours in the river ? Maybe I’m wrong though ?

    Just spend a little time to update on your AutoChart Live card – problem solved.

    Justin Laack
    Austin,mn
    Posts: 492
    #2195501

    go into your settings and adjust lake level offset…

    I’d assume flooding and high flow would adjust some sand bars , drop offs , contours in the river ? Maybe I’m wrong though ?
    [/quote]

    Andy,
    that is true, I guess I was just thinking the depth lines in general with the rising water, not so much a sand bar getting washed away.

    isu22andy
    Posts: 1803
    #2195515

    go into your settings and adjust lake level offset…

    I’d assume flooding and high flow would adjust some sand bars , drop offs , contours in the river ? Maybe I’m wrong though ?

    Andy,
    that is true, I guess I was just thinking the depth lines in general with the rising water, not so much a sand bar getting washed away.
    [/quote]

    Haha all good. I’m smarter than that , or Atleast id like to think .

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2195580

    ^^A spring flood classic!

    Unless something changes by Saturday, I’ll be moving the floating camper to the “safe harbor” of Ol’ Miss Marina at Bay Point.

    Looks like the Croix will be cresting next Tuesday/Wednesday.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2195709

    1) 20.70 ft on 04/18/1965
    (2) 18.80 ft on 04/17/1969
    (3) 18.20 ft on 04/28/2001
    (4) 18.10 ft on 04/17/2001
    (4a) 17.4 ft on 2/20/23
    (5) 17.18 ft on 04/12/1997
    (6) 17.00 ft on 04/18/1952
    (7) 16.40 ft on 04/17/1951
    (8) 15.81 ft on 04/01/2019
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    (9) 15.30 ft on 06/28/1993
    (10) 14.91 ft on 05/01/1975
    (11) 14.90 ft on 04/07/1986
    (12) 14.72 ft on 04/15/2011
    (13) 14.70 ft on 06/29/2014
    (14) 14.30 ft on 04/05/1967
    (15) 12.93 ft on 03/26/2010
    (16) 12.76 ft on 05/01/2018
    (17) 12.30 ft on 06/23/2018
    (18) 11.23 ft on 05/25/2017
    (19) 10.41 ft on 07/19/2016
    (20) 10.34 ft on 06/27/2012

    My uninformed guess is that Red Wing will see somewhere between 15′ – 16′

    That would be between 15′ and 16′! <<Not anymore!

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2195928

    Edited above for today’s latest and greatest forecast.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8389
    #2196079

    Edited above for today’s latest and greatest forecast.

    Now projecting 17.5 by late next week. For those who were out Friday, that’s 7’ more water.

    That’s a top 5 all time mark for Red Wing.

    That level will definitely close lower lying roads in the area and flood some river businesses unfortunately.

    I know people who rely on the local marinas to put in and haul out big cruisers, they have told people to not expect their rigs in until Memorial Day at the earliest, as these levels will shut them down for a couple weeks minimum

    isu22andy
    Posts: 1803
    #2196145

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Brian Klawitter wrote:</div>
    Edited above for today’s latest and greatest forecast.

    Now projecting 17.5 by late next week. For those who were out Friday, that’s 7’ more water.

    That’s a top 5 all time mark for Red Wing.

    That level will definitely close lower lying roads in the area and flood some river businesses unfortunately.

    I know people who rely on the local marinas to put in and haul out big cruisers, they have told people to not expect their rigs in until Memorial Day at the earliest, as these levels will shut them down for a couple weeks minimum

    It’d Be a shame to not be able to pull tubers at the can line when there’s 20 boats trying to get through there in peak Memorial Day traffic ……..

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2196292

    All launches around Red Wing are barricaded closed as of this morning.

    boone
    Woodbury, MN
    Posts: 939
    #2196312

    Do the barges still operate in this high of water or do they tie up somewhere and just wait it out? It seems like it would be difficult to make progress upstream, and going downstream they’d be going so fast it would be hard to make through railroad openings and under some bridges.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8389
    #2196317

    Do the barges still operate in this high of water or do they tie up somewhere and just wait it out? It seems like it would be difficult to make progress upstream, and going downstream they’d be going so fast it would be hard to make through railroad openings and under some bridges.

    They will run until locks are closed. Each dam sets that threshold for their site. Most are either closed to traffic or nearing it in the area now…effectively shutting down barge traffic sometime soon.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2196423

    They were still motoring by on Saturday.

    Lock #3 list 14.2′ as a closing stage and we’ll exceed that by tomorrow.

    Keep in mind, the river is not closed…just the launches.

    critter 1
    Posts: 121
    #2196445

    Lock 4 closes at 15 feet and we are at that now with alot of water still on the way. Going up higher and faster that predicted. I believe we will be over 16 feet before long. Its been going up a foot every day. we have blasted past the April 13th forecast of similiar to 2019. I am still thinking closer to 17 feet. And hopefully not alot of rain and a second crest that pushes higher.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2196482

    L&D #3 and 4 are expected to close tomorrow the 18th IF they haven’t closed already.
    #5 and 5a are expecting to close on the 20th if not earlier.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #2196706

    4/18/23 Forecast adjusted down to 17.0′ cresting this Friday/Saturday. Still just into major flood stage on Monday 4/24/23.

    At 8am the stage in Red Wing is 14.82

    matt
    Posts: 659
    #2196714

    I saw on the news the other day that they opened one or both of the upper two locks in Mpls and are letting the river flow thru.Water sure was ripping thru that lock.

    isu22andy
    Posts: 1803
    #2196918

    New prediction 16.5 . They’ll be tubing in the can line by May yet lol

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