Pool 2 Report (2025)

  • Deuces
    Posts: 5340
    #2327380

    Spawn is weird, alot of factors. I’ve caught some fatties that never spawned some years late april.

    Hoping to get out this weekend woot

    BrianF
    Posts: 838
    #2327398

    My son caught a 10.1 pounder April 19th and an 8 pounder April 23rd last year. Both were pre-spawn and both were well south of where most fish this time of year. Was very eye opening!

    buschman
    Pool 2
    Posts: 1838
    #2327771

    Pool 2 is almost like clockwork. As said, there are factors but the average spawn date for the walleyes lands 4/14-4/17. Give or take a week but this is generally the dates.

    Once spawned the big females move FAST! They get out and head back to post spawn locations in 1-2 days.

    Generally the only reason they will not spawn by 4/17 is in low water. They need the water up a little to access spawning areas that they use here. If the water is still at low level inside the banks they will hold tight and wait. This happened about 10 years ago and then again in 2021.

    BrianF
    Posts: 838
    #2327775

    Pool 2 is almost like clockwork. As said, there are factors but the average spawn date for the walleyes lands 4/14-4/17. Give or take a week but this is generally the dates.

    Once spawned the big females move FAST! They get out and head back to post spawn locations in 1-2 days.

    Generally the only reason they will not spawn by 4/17 is in low water. They need the water up a little to access spawning areas that they use here. If the water is still at low level inside the banks they will hold tight and wait. This happened about 10 years ago and then again in 2021.

    I’ve read the tracking study, though wonder if there isn’t more spawning going on south of the confluence than the study suggests. Any thoughts or insight on that?

    buschman
    Pool 2
    Posts: 1838
    #2327833

    I’ve read the tracking study, though wonder if there isn’t more spawning going on south of the confluence than the study suggests. Any thoughts or insight on that?

    People will challenge me on this but my answer is NO! I believe the majority spawn in the Minnesota river section. There are good #s of fish spawning up by the dam but if I had to guess I would say 85% or better go up the MN river.

    The studies we have are very vague and old. I know fish spawn at the ford dam and maybe some areas downstream but vast majority go up the MN river in my opinion.

    Walleyes are broadcast spawners. Meaning you need a large # of fish in that area to make the spawn work. Add to it that walleyes do not live long in the Mississippi and conditions change rapidly year to year. This opens up the converstaion to “false spawning”. By that I mean an old 9-11 year old female may have used multiple sites to spawn and will have false drops in areas due to age or change in river conditions. Its hard to base a study on egg catch samples in P2 is my point there and I dont give that study much credit.

    buschman
    Pool 2
    Posts: 1838
    #2327835

    I’ve read the tracking study, though wonder if there isn’t more spawning going on south of the confluence than the study suggests. Any thoughts or insight on that?

    People will challenge me on this but my answer is NO! I believe the majority spawn in the Minnesota river section. There are good #s of fish spawning up by the dam but if I had to guess I would say 85% or better go up the MN river.

    The studies we have are very vague and old. I know fish spawn at the ford dam and maybe some areas downstream but vast majority go up the MN river in my opinion.

    Walleyes are broadcast spawners. Meaning you need a large # of fish in that area to make the spawn work. Add to it that walleyes do not live long in the Mississippi and conditions change rapidly year to year. This opens up the conversation to “false spawning”. By that I mean an old 9-11 year old female may have used multiple sites to spawn and will have false drops in areas due to age or change in river conditions. Its hard to base a study on egg catch samples in P2 is my point there and I don’t give that specific study much credit.

    isu22andy
    Posts: 2095
    #2327854

    I thought all the walleyes come back down from 2 to spawn at the pool 4 dam and to rip blades baits as hard as possible all day on spot lock . Also if you see someone dragging jigs and catching fish make sure to spot lock in front of them for best odds .

    All jokes aside great info .

    buschman
    Pool 2
    Posts: 1838
    #2328022

    I thought all the walleyes come back down from 2 to spawn at the pool 4 dam and to rip blades baits as hard as possible all day on spot lock . Also if you see someone dragging jigs and catching fish make sure to spot lock in front of them for best odds .

    All jokes aside great info .

    Some are still old school anglers and just toss the anchor under your boat when they dont have the spot lock grin

    JEREMY
    BP
    Posts: 4557
    #2328027

    Should have some dirty water coming your way. The MN went up about 8 feet or so the last 3 days by me and still rising.

    Deuces
    Posts: 5340
    #2328582

    Only got a handful this evening into night. Water 42, fish not leaking.

    FinickyFish
    Posts: 708
    #2328620

    Was out Friday and saw 40° at the confluence. Boated 1 right away then didn’t see any other fish in any other boats caught that day.

    crawdaddy
    St. Paul MN
    Posts: 1985
    #2328664

    What I don’t understand is people always say on this site is that if the water isn’t high the walleye will have a poor spawn. My question is why??? In any water level there are plenty of shallow gravel areas where the eggs can settle into and hatch.

    Deuces
    Posts: 5340
    #2328666

    Still a slow bite today. Managed a half dozen with most 20-22″

    Hair and meat in 6 to 8′

    Probably won’t get back till after spawn. One of these years I’ll get a 10# sunning in the sand

    LabDaddy1
    Posts: 2959
    #2328673

    What I don’t understand is people always say on this site is that if the water isn’t high the walleye will have a poor spawn. My question is why??? In any water level there are plenty of shallow gravel areas where the eggs can settle into and hatch.

    True. I guess high water opens up more area and more oxygenated areas but yeah I hear you.

    buschman
    Pool 2
    Posts: 1838
    #2328700

    What I don’t understand is people always say on this site is that if the water isn’t high the walleye will have a poor spawn. My question is why??? In any water level there are plenty of shallow gravel areas where the eggs can settle into and hatch.

    I am sure a few factors play. Access to spawning area is maybe the biggest factor. Protection from moving river levels might be another. That is my assumption. I do not know much beside what we have seen fishing the river. Walleyes would not have much sucess spawning if they use a main channel gravel bar during rising water. The main channel flow can change in a day or two on these areas and sweeep everything away. Protected areas prevent this from happening and give the newly hatched a safe area to start gowing in. The main channel in spring is no place to be a baby walleye.

    Saugers generally spawn in the main channel but walleyes do not. They prefer flooded grass transitions with low to moderate flow and gravel/rocky inlets or feeder creeks. Some of these areas have both.

    I know one area in the vermillion river on P3 that loads up with spawning females but we need the water up 4-5 ft for them to use the area. It is a hard rock and sand shoreline with a uneven tall grass edge. When the water is up it becomes a flooded slackwater seam. Not an eddie current. Just a slow slackwater seam and they defiantly use it.

    pbrown001
    Posts: 7
    #2328784

    Based off my experience fishing pool 2 I have started to think a large number of walleye spawn in the Minnesota River. Definetly still a good amount of walleye spawn by the dam and Minehaha creek and probably a couple other locations near the confluence.

    Here is a study from the late 90s, worth a read if you are into this kind of stuff. They located a good amount of walleye and sauger through radio transmitters in the Minnesota river during spawning time too.

    https://files.dnr.state.mn.us/publications/fisheries/investigational_reports/482.pdf

    River conditions are definitely different now then during this study but I bet there are still a lot of walleye that go up the Minnesota river.

    let me know your thoughts

    gonefishin
    Posts: 358
    #2328810

    pbrown001 – I am always looking for documents published by the DNR and when I talk to the DNR about searching for documents I am told that the system is very archaic, and many documents are not converted over to pdf format.

    At the link you provided, I tried to access to the database and find other documents but always receive and error. Are you a DNR employee or how did you get access and the link?

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 5367
    #2328816

    This study is what we are talking about above. I used to have a copy but can’t find it anymore.

    The study is still true imho. The walleyes, by and large, go up the Minnesota to spawn.

    LabDaddy1
    Posts: 2959
    #2328828

    This study is what we are talking about above. I used to have a copy but can’t find it anymore.

    The study is still true imho. The walleyes, by and large, go up the Minnesota to spawn.

    As someone on here said years ago, they “go left up the muddy ditch”. Still like that one lol.

    JasonP
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 1380
    #2328863

    Should be able to access the pub page here.

    Click investigational reports.

    gonefishin
    Posts: 358
    #2328901

    Thank you very much. I’ll have some good reads.

    JasonP
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 1380
    #2328973

    I gave it a thorough read. Here are some of the key takeaways for those not interested in reading the whole thing:

    1. Large numbers of walleye migrated up the Minnesota during the spawn. Some were tracked migrating over 70km.
    2. Some walleye spawned in the tailwaters of LND#1, but not nearly as many.
    3. Some walleye eggs were found in the lower half of the pool during the spawn, but very few, and they may have drifted down from upstream locations.
    4. Walleye prefer to spawn over gravel, rubble, and cobble, but may use alternate substrates up in the MN like tributaries, clam beds, etc.
    5. Male walleye linger at spawning grounds longer than females. Females migrate, spawn, ,and return relatively quickly.
    6. The researchers suspected that walleye tend to use the middle of the pool for pre-spawn staging in winter (i.e. airport to 494).
    7. Walleye tended to use the habitats in the lower to middle sections in summer.
    8. One walleye went to pool 3 in summer. He apparently didn’t like all the regulations of pool 2 and preferred to live dangerously. grin

    Pete Bauer
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 2601
    #2329013

    8. One walleye went to pool 3 in summer. He apparently didn’t like all the regulations of pool 2 and preferred to live dangerously. grin

    jester

    LabDaddy1
    Posts: 2959
    #2329021

    Hahaha too funny Jason.

    It never ceases to surprise me how few walleyes spawn below the ford dam(LD#1), comparatively. It’s got great substrate and plenty of well-oxygenated water. Definitely helps having higher water, but that’s the same everywhere. I wonder why so many prefer to go up the muddy ditch…

    DaveB
    Inver Grove Heights MN
    Posts: 4562
    #2329060

    My sense is that the MN water is just slightly warmer in April than the Mississippi, but what the heck do i know

    JasonP
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 1380
    #2329093

    My sense is that the MN water is just slightly warmer in April than the Mississippi, but what the heck do i know

    I studied walleye spawning for a few years for the DNR in Voyageurs. That tracks pretty solid. Temperature is a very important factor during incubation. Steadily rising temps are optimal for incubating eggs.

    The other reason might be water levels as Joe mentioned above. Rapidly rising (or falling obviously) water levels are trouble during incubation. Eggs get stranded too deep and deprived of O2 or become dislodged from the substrate. There is basically nowhere for increasing flow to go below LND1 but up; but the MN floodplain is pretty expansive and more tolerant to increasing flowrate.

    LabDaddy1
    Posts: 2959
    #2329157

    My sense is that the MN water is just slightly warmer in April than the Mississippi, but what the heck do i know

    That’s does make sense. Kind of a “duh” moment for me I guess. Not only where it’s coming from, but the darker water absorbs more heat from light. Good call.

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