Pool 2, landmarks and what I’ve always wanted to see

  • crawdaddy
    St. Paul MN
    Posts: 1578
    #2274880

    Here’s some famous landmarks on pool 2. If I missed anything please add in comments.

    1. Axe Murderer house. This is the old house at the bottom of spring lake. I think they might have demolished it now, not sure. Looks like a set for a horror movie.

    2. Cigar island. Also by spring lake. If you’ve ever fished around it, the smell of bird droppings can about melt your nose.

    3. Grey cloud island burial mounds and historic kiln.

    4. The gravel pit. Water gushes out here, a great spot for bass, both brown and silver.

    5. Hippie bay, a hidden backwater with nice bass in the spring. Hard to get to.

    6. Whipplinger seaplane base

    7. Indian head. A bluff overlooking the inflow to the greycloud backwaters. You can see a wooden Indian up there before the trees green up.

    8. The old swing bridge. I still remember driving across it when I was a kid.

    9. Pigs eye lake. A river classic.

    10. Chemical creek/turd swirled

    11. The best for last, the old civil War canon. This is what I’ve always wanted to see, is the guy touch that thing off. My buddy used to live next door, and said it gets blasted once or twice a year.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13294
    #2274882

    The piano hanging off the cliff. Not much left of it anymore.

    The Pool 2 Hawg Haul trophy board is from the saw mill behind the axe murderer house.

    A real live tree hugger near the confluence. They don’t come out often but it’s a show when they do. Full on 2 arms and a leg hugging. Think there might of even been some talking to the tree.

    Flag Point at Pine Bend.

    The Griz.

    I bet Joe Busch has a cool one or two to keep an eye out for.

    wkw
    Posts: 723
    #2274883

    I wanna hear more about the ax murderer house and the piano hanging off the cliff

    BrianF
    Posts: 757
    #2274884

    The ax murderer house is gone. The sawmill still survives.

    Crawdaddy, we refer to #10 as ‘Schitt$ Creek’.

    One thing we have yet to come across on P2…a dead body. Only a matter of time.

    crawdaddy
    St. Paul MN
    Posts: 1578
    #2274899

    I’ve never seen the piano. I’ve also never seen the famous picnic table, which the top community hole wing damn is named after.

    The axe Murderer house just looked damn creepy. I’ve been fishing with buddies who had never seen it before, and on first glance remarked, “that looks like a place the Texas chainsaw massacre guy would live!” I’ve also heard it was haunted, from a guy that worked for the county. He got the chills when he had to go in there and check on it. One evening I was fishing there, and a bunch of kids were horsing around on the bluff. Then I heard a crash, a sickening thud, and bloody murder shrieking. Finally there was a string of expletives, and crying. I’m pretty sure some bones were broken.

    P.S. if anyone ever gets wind of the cannon going off, please post, I’d love to see it.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6011
    #2274917

    Just down the shore from the sawmill is this old abandoned barge The Minnie Lee.

    -J.

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    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
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    #2274921

    Alway thought the old cellar at the Ax Murderer house was the spooky spot!

    -J.

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    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
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    #2274952

    Shooting the Grey Cloud culvert in high water.

    -J.

    crawdaddy
    St. Paul MN
    Posts: 1578
    #2274983

    Yeah Jon that basement does look creepy! One I forgot, the old abandoned marina in the back of spring lake with a bunch of half-sunken boats, we always call that one either haunted harbor or meth harbor. cool

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10384
    #2274984

    Is the walk-in size sewer still there that was below UNIVAC?

    3Rivers
    Posts: 1088
    #2274998

    The sunken barge has to make this list.

    Also the “Olympic Torch”.

    boone
    Woodbury, MN
    Posts: 935
    #2275027

    Do odors count as landmarks? The rendering plant is South Saint Paul is really nasty if the wind is blowing over the river.

    The High Bridge just upstream from downtown St. Paul is pretty cool.

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 4239
    #2275028

    I’ll add the mannequin on the lawn chair at the top of the barge channel going into Moerrs. I don’t think it’s been there for a couple years but that was a good one.

    The ruins of the clubhouse for the golf course are pretty cool, too.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6011
    #2275068

    I have a video of that!

    -J.

    john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2578
    #2275085

    Cool stuff! The haunted house (a.k.a. The White House, the axe murderer house) is gone, the mannequin is gone, the piano is almost gone, and I think the kiln and Indian are gone? There are some cool building foundations across from the Baldwin lake cut on the east side of the river. One is basically just a chimney. The other is more of an industrial foundation of some kind. Gotta get out of the boat to see either one. I also remember the cabin that was on the north-south cut at the first turn above spring lake. That was torn down 5+ years ago.

    I love all the weird, old stuff down there. It seems like there were a lot of people who thought it was a good idea to build something next to the river, but eventually the river corrected every one of them on that idea!

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6011
    #2275096

    It seems like there were a lot of people who thought it was a good idea to build something next to the river, but eventually the river corrected every one of them on that idea!

    The river and the Park Service ran them out. When I first started fishing down there in the late 80’s, there were a bunch of old hunting/trapping cabins on those islands. I believe there is only one left back in the woods. Will have to give it a check some time. This one had an old foosball table in it and wired for a generator.

    John, I talked to the man who lived on that island a few times. Don’t recall his name. In the end the Park Service ran him out. He was the last one. I have a bunch of pics somewhere taken there shortly after he left and before the cabin was torn down. I’ll try and dig them up.

    -J.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6011
    #2275120

    Found this old article I remember reading from the Pioneer Press dated 4/6/2012. Click the link and there are a few cool pics to see.

    http://www.twincities.com/2012/04/06/buds-landing-lives-on-at-dakota-countys-spring-lake/

    Too bad the family’s wishes were not followed. Pretty sure the county has no plans to keep a bar down there or open a boat ramp there. But, who knows?

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    Bud’s Landing lives on at Dakota County’s Spring Lake

    Author
    By MARICELLA MIRANDA | Pioneer Press
    PUBLISHED: April 6, 2012 at 11:01 p.m. | UPDATED: November 10, 2015 at 8:13 a.m.

    Gene Josephs found his little piece of heaven when he was 6 years old.

    In 1943, his father bought land along Spring Lake in northeastern Dakota County, a cherished spot for duck hunting and fishing on the Mississippi River backwaters. Today, Josephs’ property provides the safest access to the lake, which is surrounded by steep terrain and thick woods.

    After nearly 70 years in the Josephs family, the land will become public.

    “I can get very emotional about this place,” said Josephs, now 75 and living in West St. Paul. “I love it with every ounce of my life. But better things will come.”

    Josephs and his sisters are selling the 36 acres in Nininger Township to Dakota County. Most of the site will be part of the new Spring Lake Islands Wildlife Management Area, and the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources will relocate a public boat launch to the site.

    Josephs agreed to sell the land on one condition, he said. The site had to be called “Bud’s Landing” in memory of his father, Budwah Josephs, who died 16 years ago at age 83. He also asked that a cabin his father turned into a “beer joint” be preserved.

    “I’ve got 70 years of this place in my blood,” he said.

    After Josephs’ mother died, the land went to him and his four sisters.

    On a gray morning in March, Josephs visited Bud’s Landing. The dilapidated beer joint faces Spring Lake, which became part of the Mississippi when the 1930s construction of Lock and Dam No. 2 inundated the low-lying lake basin. A one-room cabin, a concrete outhouse and a boathouse are scattered around the site. Time, weather and flooding have turned the buildings into ghostly ruins.

    The beer joint’s bright green trim is a contrast to the gloomy day. Hanging on the beer joint’s shingle siding are handwritten signs, telling of a time when renting a fishing boat cost about $6 a day. Another sign advertises Grain Belt as the beer of choice.

    Inside, a wood-burning stove is turning to rust across from a dusty pool table on the sinking wood floor. A mounted deer head and painted glass lamps are still hanging.

    On the other side of the billiards room, an antique white refrigerated Coca-Cola cooler collects dirt in its crevices. Nearby is a makeshift kitchen, where Josephs’ father used to fry Polish sausages and hot dogs and make ham sandwiches for customers. On the wall, lines and dates in black marker are records of past floods – some dating back to the 1960s.

    “I just love this place,” Josephs said. “I’m gonna cry. I’m going to miss it very much.”

    IN THE FAMILY

    Josephs’ father bought the first plot on the property in July 1943.

    By 1947, he had spent about $1,000 to buy six 6-acre parcels.

    Josephs said he still remembers the 18-mile drives his family took every summer from their home on the West Side Flats in St. Paul to Bud’s Landing. For the 40-minute ride, he and his sisters would fight over who got to sit in the car’s rumble seat.

    “It was just farms and country,” he said. “It was another world and we loved it.”

    Josephs said he was his father’s “right-hand man” for maintaining the property. Some days, Josephs would cut the grass with a push lawn mower – an all-day chore.

    When his father opened the beer joint, Josephs helped him serve customers, running back and forth from a “spring box” to fetch beer and pop. The spring box was a makeshift cooler in the lake, made out of logs, kept cool by a natural spring. Remnants of it remain, but the logs are beginning to drift into the lake.

    Some days, his father juggled working at the beer joint at night with his day job at the Swift and Armour packing plants in South St. Paul.

    Josephs said that as the years went by, he took on more responsibility.

    His dad stopped operating the beer joint when he was 75, but he helped keep the site going for duck hunters until he was about 80.

    In 1996, Josephs’ father died. His mother died two years later.

    Josephs and his nephew now maintain the land for their friends who hunt, some of whom have been visiting Bud’s Landing with their families for generations.

    Jim Deering, 64, of South St. Paul said he began hunting at Bud’s Landing in the late 1950s with his grandfather. Now, he hunts there every year with his son, who is 32.

    Deering hopes that one day, his grandson will hunt there, too.

    “It’s one of the few places that you can still enjoy waterfowl hunting,” Deering said. “We weren’t into harvesting numbers of birds. It was more just for the enjoyment of a place to go that’s close to the Cities, where you can still get that true outdoor feeling.”

    Deering considers the place “history.”

    “It put a tear in my eye” hearing that the land was being sold, he said.

    But Deering supports making the property public – as long as the county’s plans won’t change too much, he said. He also wants the beer joint to be preserved.

    “That was an icon,” he said.

    DECISION TO SELL

    For Josephs, it gets harder every year to keep up the land.

    “I can’t do it,” he said. “I’m too old.”

    But deciding to sell wasn’t easy, he said. Dakota County first approached him a few years ago, but Josephs said he wasn’t ready to let go and the $400,000 offer wasn’t enough.

    “I have the most strategic spot,” he said.

    Al Singer, the county’s land conservation manager, said the property has now been appraised for more. In 2011, the county approached Josephs again. In February, the county offered him and his family $682,000.

    The family accepted the deal.

    The county has asked for about $520,000 from a Metropolitan Council program for buying land for regional parks. The council will decide later this month whether to award the grant.

    The remainder would come from the county’s capital improvement funds for parks.

    The sale is expected to close in July if everything is approved, Singer said.

    Bud’s Landing provides the safest access to Spring Lake and its river islands, Singer said.

    The existing boat launch operated by the DNR is farther downstream, he said. But the road to the launch is steep and parking is limited. When winds are heavy, treacherous currents and high waves make the area unsafe for boaters.

    The county also hopes Bud’s Landing will be a stop along the Mississippi River Regional Trail, a 27-mile path in the works that would stretch from South St. Paul to Hastings. The trail is expected to wind for 6 miles through the Spring Lake Park Reserve.

    “This is really going to eventually provide a greater access for people to use and enjoy Spring Lake,” Singer said. “It will…change this portion of Spring Lake Park as an opportunity for a real nice picnicking area.”

    MEMORIES INTACT

    Josephs said his father’s legacy won’t be completely lost.

    As part of the plans to preserve the beer joint, the county would move the building to a higher elevation, where flooding would not damage it, Singer said.

    “We’re trying to figure out if there’s a way to preserve it,” he said, “to help tell the story of the property – just be a reminder of what that area was like a long time ago.”

    The other buildings would be demolished.

    The earliest Bud’s Landing could be open to the public is 2014.

    The county also asked Josephs to help with plans to turn the land into public space. The job wouldn’t pay anything, Josephs said. But in return, he’ll still have a key – so to speak – without having to worry about paying property taxes or keeping up the land.

    “I’ll just be able to love it,” he said. “That’s what I want to do.”

    Maricella Miranda can be reached at 651-228-5421. Follow her at twitter.com/mariwritesnews.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6011
    #2275122

    Another interesting read I came across:

    http://www.bigrivermagazine.com/springlake.html

    This photo of the original Spring Lake shows a mill and a house. Perhaps the lake was actually a mill pond. (Courtesy Dakota County Historical Society)

    Spring Lake — Legacy Lost and Found
    By Denny Caneff
    ©November 2016 Big River Magazine

    In my youth, Spring Lake was a mythical place, a watery Valhalla that conjured images of my grandfather communing with the woods and water and shooting anything that moved. I never knew this grandfather, Mathias N. (Matt) Gores, an avid hunter and outdoorsman. He died in 1952, two years before I was born. With my childhood love of tramping around in woods and fields and rivers, my mother told me I would have loved him. She saw that I shared his passion for the outdoors and solitude. I used to imagine going to Spring Lake with him to hunt — wherever Spring Lake was. I never went there in my childhood, and my mother couldn’t really describe its location.

    Spring Lake is the big lake backed up behind Lock and Dam 2, upstream of Hastings, Minn., my home town. But family lore had it that Spring Lake was a different place before the dam was finished in 1932 and flooded 10,000 acres of land upstream. My mother knew her father owned land in Spring Lake, but she didn’t know the details. Did he own the land before the dam went in? Was it flooded when the dam was built? Was he compensated for it? Did my grandfather Matt continue to hunt there after his land was underwater?
    My mother didn’t know, and none of the surviving Gores family had bothered to find out. But one cold January morning in 2016, standing at the windblown and driftwood laden shore of Spring Lake, I decided to figure out my family’s connection to Spring Lake and, perhaps, connect with the spirit of my Grandpa Matt.

    The wind, water and dark worked their magic on me, and I thought about my grandfather Matt. Was this his Spring Lake? Did he come here to find respite from his own struggles with family and business? By the fire that night — Spring Lake’s waves lapping nearby — I made communion with Matt Gores.

    First Visit
    I was 20 years when I had my first encounter with Spring Lake. It was late in the summer of 1974, my second summer home from college, and after a heated argument with my parents, I escaped to the home of my high school friend Wags. He, too, shared the sense of oppression many kids feel during their summers home from college, and he suggested we get away to Spring Lake.
    THAT Spring Lake!? We drove west of Hastings, then down a bumpy, winding road in the dark, but suddenly the woods opened to a glistening expanse of water bathed in the industrial glow of 3M’s Chemolite plant and the refinery complex at Pine Bend, whose steam and smoke glowed orange in the night. We built a fire of driftwood, sipped beers and commiserated about suffering under our parents’ thumbs. The wind, water and dark worked their magic on me, and I thought about my grandfather Matt. Was this his Spring Lake? Did he come here to find respite from his own struggles with family and business? By the fire that night — Spring Lake’s waves lapping nearby — I made communion with Matt Gores.
    Dakota County Sleuthing
    Fast forward nearly 30 years. In 2002, Dakota County Parks contacted my mother to ask if she would sell some islands in Spring Lake that she owned, to expand its regional park.
    I was burning with wonder. By that time, I had developed my own deep connection to the Mississippi, canoeing it from source to mouth in 1975 and, as a kid, spending many a summer day with a cousin wallowing in its murky waters below Lock and Dam 2. And now I discovered that my family owned islands in the Mississippi River and my mother was about to sell them.
    The county eventually paid my mother $23,000 for the islands, which she divided among her own kids and the children of her siblings, who were deceased. Why she was so conscientious about giving everyone a share of the proceeds became clear years later.
    My Spring Lake research in 2016 started with setting straight a possible myth I’d conjured over the decades: Was there a Spring Lake before the dam? I found a 1928 plat map of the area (the year before dam construction began) showing there was indeed a Spring Lake, maybe 80 acres. Spring Lake was a backwater lake whose northern shore was less than a mile from the Main Channel of the Mississippi. It was completely overwhelmed by the pool that Lock and Dam 2 created.
    Or maybe it wasn’t a natural lake after all. The only picture of the original Spring Lake that the Dakota County Historical Society could unearth, from 1907, shows a grist mill and a house, with a narrow stretch of water behind them. So perhaps “Spring Lake” was actually a mill pond created by a dam. By 1930, a few months after the stock market crash that triggered the Great Depression, the federal government announced the construction of the lock and dam that would inundate the original Spring Lake.
    In the boosterish tone of a Chamber of Commerce brochure, the St. Paul Dispatch reported that the “possibility that this lake will eventually become the greatest inland harbor and industrial center in the world is being predicted by individuals advocating the revival of river traffic on the Upper Mississippi.”
    I suppose the 700 property ­owners whose land was about to disappear underwater felt less enthusiasm about the dam. In a process that today might have triggered an armed revolt, the Army Corps of Engineers ­simply announced plans for the dam, that 10,000 acres would be flooded, and that landowners would be compensated.
    The land belonging to those who fought the dam was condemned by the feds. Landowners were also offered “flowage easements,” wherein they held title to the land and were compensated by the federal government, but their land was largely or completely flooded. By 1932 the dam was completed, the original Spring Lake gone, and the new Spring Lake a massive slack-water pool.

    This phone screen capture shows the area where the Gores islands were located (Google Earth view)
    Buying a Watery Paradise
    I dug around in the archives of the Army Corps and the Dakota County Historical Society to resolve the mystery of how my family came to own land on Spring Lake. Their land had to have been flooded by the dam. I couldn’t understand why my grandfather would buy land after it had been flooded.
    My next communion with Grandpa Matt was not on the shore of Spring Lake, but in a Corps office gazing at an aerial map of the flooded land that he acquired after the dam was built. Seeing the aerial view of those parcels through my own river-rat eyes, I understood what he wanted from that land. It was — and in many ways still is — a surprisingly remote watery paradise.
    His first purchase, in 1934, was about 33 acres, about 80 percent of which was underwater, for which he paid about $2.30 an acre. That land was on the south shore of Spring Lake, adjacent to dry land that his brother Joe owned. I could imagine them cavorting on that land, shotguns cradled in their arms, their coon dogs howling at treed raccoons.
    Grandpa Matt then bought the islands in 1938 (about 21 acres) that my mother sold to Dakota County in 2002. He had paid “the sum of One dollar and other valuable considerations …” This looked like ideal duck hunting territory for my grandfather and his hunting buddies. Accessible only by boat, the islands were across the Main Channel from Lower Grey Cloud Island to the north with the quieter water of Spring Lake to the south. Today, as they did then, those islands define the right bank of the navigation channel as the river sweeps northeast toward Hastings and Lock and Dam 2.
    Area river rats may recognize the name “Gores” from a different river stretch: the Gores Wildlife Management Area (WMA), below Hastings, where the Vermillion River runs parallel to the Mississippi. I couldn’t find out whether this watery wildlife area was named for someone in my family, but it may have been named after my Grandpa Matt’s brother Joe Gores. I couldn’t verify it, but he may have sold some of his land to Minnesota for the Gores WMA.

    Seeing the aerial view of those parcels through my own river-rat eyes, I understood what he wanted from that land.
    Going Public
    The facts are cloudy on the fate of the 33-acre parcel my grandfather first bought, but my sister has the same recollection as I, that there was a bit of a family scandal around it. A clipping from the February 28, 1985, Hastings’ weekly Mississippi Valley Star read, “Park Land Bought.” I’m quite sure it was from this brief news story that my mother learned her brother had sold my grandfather’s 33-acre shoreland parcel (the one that was mostly underwater) to the county, for $58,000. It seems he hadn’t contacted her about her share of the proceeds.
    When I reached Steve Sullivan, a planner for Dakota County Parks, he recalled my mother, in 2002, being adamant that the islands be sold in her lifetime to avoid the family conflict she apparently endured with her brother 17 years earlier.
    The happy ending to all this is that the 33-acres of shore land and the islands that my grandfather undoubtedly bought for his hunting retreat are now public land. Grandpa Matt’s shore land is part of the county’s Spring Lake Park Reserve. The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources owns the islands, accessible to the public both from the river channel and the county park.
    I finally got to “my islands” in early September of 2016. My daughter Amanda and I set sail from Dakota County Parks’ archery park, on the south shore of Spring Lake. The islands that had been my granddad’s were easy to find, using an iPhone’s Google map and maps indicating the Gores’ islands. We circumnavigated them, finding a massive cottonwood log to sun ourselves on while enjoying a beer. Though the channels around the islands are silting in, it felt like little else had changed since Matt Gores hunted here 65 years ago. We lifted our beers to offer him a toast.
    Denny Caneff was, until recently, the executive director of the River Alliance of Wisconsin. He lives in Madison, Wis.

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 4239
    #2275153

    I have a video of that!

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    -J.

    I have some pics somewhere of it…the barge guys or someone should do that again. I ran my boat up on a sand bar trying to get a pic of the mannequin and almost couldn’t get outta there.

    This is a great thread. Where is the piano? That’s one I don’t know.

    I’d also like to get down into spring lake and poke around a bit more. I get down in those chutes but I’m always worried about going anywhere else. I think I need a jon boat.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6011
    #2275158

    Where is the piano?

    South of Lion’s where the limestone cliffs are. (Same side of the river as Lions) About 1/2 way down the cliff line sitting up near the top of the cliff you can see the white piano keys and what is left of the piano. Like someone pushed it off the top of the cliff but got hung up on some scrub brush before falling over the edge. At least that is where it was last time I saw it.

    -J.

    john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2578
    #2275174

    Very cool, Jon. And I’ve always thought it would be cool to have a shack somewhere down there. Makes sense that the forest service chased people off the islands. Thanks!

    DaveB
    Inver Grove Heights MN
    Posts: 4465
    #2275193

    Very cool, Jon. And I’ve always thought it would be cool to have a shack somewhere down there. Makes sense that the forest service chased people off the islands. Thanks!

    Around the highway 5 bridge, you can see where people stack flat rocks into primitive structures, cover with a tarp, start fires and try to live all winter. So I guess there are options….

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 4239
    #2275215

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>john23 wrote:</div>
    Very cool, Jon. And I’ve always thought it would be cool to have a shack somewhere down there. Makes sense that the forest service chased people off the islands. Thanks!

    Around the highway 5 bridge, you can see where people stack flat rocks into primitive structures, cover with a tarp, start fires and try to live all winter. So I guess there are options….

    .

    It’s always a little creepy when you are fishing those shorelines and you hear voices from inside those little huts.

    Hard Water Fan
    Shieldsville
    Posts: 976
    #2275276

    Thanks for those articles Jon. I always enjoy reading those types of things.

    dirtywater
    Posts: 1537
    #2275284

    Fun thread.

    I got my old trihull stuck in spring lake. It was my first year owning a boat and I had no idea what i was doing. I had my young son with me and it was dark. I had to get in the water and push it. Couldn’t see anything so just pointed it toward the green and red lights in the distance and eventually found enough water to motor out.

    It’s interesting that most of what is mentioned here is all lower p2. On the upper end most of the landmarks tend to be of the crazy human variety.

    LabDaddy1
    Posts: 2426
    #2275323

    ^ Yup. Go to where the screaming crackhead is on that big shoreline rock, then stay along the southern shoreline and fish the slack water up to where the closeted married guys meet up for woodsy wanking. Good fishin there!

    Jk, I do really like the upper end though. It’s a lot more scenic and riverine IMO than the lower end.

    crawdaddy
    St. Paul MN
    Posts: 1578
    #2275358

    I’ll add one, but can’t mention specific location as it is Mike W’s spot. One day out fishing in the boat him and I think maybe Jon saw a peaceful hobo napping on the shoreline. This spot now famously referred to as “the bum run.” North of 494, I can’t say where….

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