Polaris Ranger EV

https://ranger.polaris.com/en-us/ranger-ev/

Prices start at $13K

I’m thinking I may be very interested considering the fuel relays malfunctioning on the gas engines.

Wonder how the battery life is out on the ice in the cold when fishing long days

Bearcat89 wrote:

Wonder how the battery life is out on the ice in the cold when fishing long days

Interesting Ice Testing vidio:

Surprised on the $13k price tag.

-J.

I’ve got to wonder with the switch from so many auto’s from Gas to electric where the material supply for all those batteries are going to come from. I think most all batteries use some amount of lead in them. I’m mot sure there is enough supply of lead available to power all the electric auto forecasted to be on the road by 2030. Let alone beyond.

fishthumper wrote:

I’ve got to wonder with the switch from so many auto’s from Gas to electric where the material supply for all those batteries are going to come from. I think most all batteries use some amount of lead in them. I’m mot sure there is enough supply of lead available to power all the electric auto forecasted to be on the road by 2030. Let alone beyond.

From all of the lead saved from fishing tackle and ammo after a nation wide ban.

Don’t forget about all the copper and lithium that will be needed to build all these batteries and the infrastructure needed to build them. We can’t mine for it in the states with the way things are now, so it’ll all have to come from 3rd world countries that have zero environmental regulations. That’ll be WAY better for the global environment…….

Looks pretty sweet to me! I might wait until Gen 2, but the tech is advancing so quickly on all things battery powered it’s awesome. I have a battery powered Toro lawn mower and snowblower and they are great!

I’d probably buy one when the day comes my foreman brakes downs.

I don’t do long trips, only hunting and fishing so I don’t think I’d every kill a battery.

BigWerm wrote:

but the tech is advancing so quickly on all things battery powered it’s awesome.

This is what I struggle with when it comes to electric. I finally wore out the Echo and bought a Dewalt 20v weed eater and I really like it. But, I know a year from now they’ll have a much better one on the market.

Joe Jarl wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
but the tech is advancing so quickly on all things battery powered it’s awesome.

This is what I struggle with when it comes to electric. I finally wore out the Echo and bought a Dewalt 20v weed eater and I really like it. But, I know a year from now they’ll have a much better one on the market.

That and your old batteries will be obsolete

BigWerm wrote:

Looks pretty sweet to me! I might wait until Gen 2, but the tech is advancing so quickly on all things battery powered it’s awesome. I have a battery powered Toro lawn mower and snowblower and they are great!

agreed, 1st gen will take a season or two to find all of the real world problems the testing didnt think of, once gen2 comes out look out!

So did polaris fix there electrical problems on just gas vehicles alone, or will the new electric vehicles be a home for gremlins like many of there other products.

The link epg posted is the old 48v ranger ev. It has been around for a while. The new one that comes out this fall won’t even be close to that price. I’m guessing it will be 25k+.

Joe Jarl wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
but the tech is advancing so quickly on all things battery powered it’s awesome.

This is what I struggle with when it comes to electric. I finally wore out the Echo and bought a Dewalt 20v weed eater and I really like it. But, I know a year from now they’ll have a much better one on the market.

I’m all in for the lithium battery revolution. As far as the mining of copper and infrastructure goes, with just about any type of major advancements come growing pains.

The specs for the new Kinetic ranger ev are on the Polaris website now. 80 mile range with 110 hp and 140 ftlbs. Starting price of 25k.

https://ranger.polaris.com/en-us/ranger-xp-kinetic/

I need me one of those.

Prices on side by sides of all brands and models have gotten out of control. The pricing has far surpassed inflation. I clicked on that thing and threw a few basic accessories on it (roof, windshield, winch, etc) and for a simple setup you’re going to be over $30k for a regular cab Ranger. Woof.

My father-in-law priced out a nice Ranger this last year. When he had it done he was pushing $30k. He said that was stupid for too much plastic and went and paid cash for a Jeep Wrangler that’s got a better ride, will last longer, be more durable with 3 times the power, and is more capable off-roading down trails and whatnot for about $37k.

fishthumper wrote:

I’ve got to wonder with the switch from so many auto’s from Gas to electric where the material supply for all those batteries are going to come from. I think most all batteries use some amount of lead in them. I’m mot sure there is enough supply of lead available to power all the electric auto forecasted to be on the road by 2030. Let alone beyond.

This is going to be a big issue. First thing is that Lead is not going to be the issue as these batteries are lithium based, not lead based. In simple terms a series 31 lead acid type battery weighs over 60 lbs and for sake of discussion is approximately 1.2KW. 15Kw of lead based batteries would be weight prohibited. The material supply however is still a valid question however. I was in the electronics industry and we used over 250,000 pounds of copper every year. In today’s market copper is skyrocketing and with the projected need for copper, by 2024 there isn’t enough copper mined and smelted in the world to meet the demand, not to mention cobalt, nickel, and lithium. The great news is Minnesota has significant deposits because of our unique geology. Minnesota is home to the world’s second known largest reserves of copper, the 3rd largest reserves of cobalt, and it was recently announced the discovery of one of the most richest nickel finds ever located in Aitkin County. The real question is not if they will be mined but when. Copper prices are already at record levels and as EV’s become more popular it will continue to increase. The cold weather video is quite accurate as electric motors provide amazing torque. In cold weather the torque is amplified as the internal resistance is low providing more power to the motors and less losses. They do give range estimates however you do not see the estimate at 70 degrees verses -10 degrees. I estimate at 0 it will be 40% of the advertised range. Looking at the specs the higher priced has a 30Kw battery, using the optimistic range of 80 that’s 375 watts/mile. I suspect a Honda 2000 watt generator would fully charge one in 15 hours. You could carry on in the back and really extend your range but you would need to take gas with…humm. They look like a lot of fun, quiet, very powerful as well as the “in” thing, but no going 20 miles across LOTW with the hopes of returning unless you have a generator.

buckybadger wrote:

my father-in-law priced out a nice Ranger this last year. When he had it done he was pushing $30k. He said that was stupid for too much plastic and went and paid cash for a Jeep Wrangler that’s got a better ride, will last longer, be more durable with 3 times the power, and is more capable off-roading down trails and whatnot for about $37k.

more capable than a side by side? most the trails ive rode in northern mn or wi dont even allow jeeps on them. a jeep wouldnt make it about half the trails we ride and would take 10X longer to do the same amount of miles

buckybadger wrote:

Prices on side by sides of all brands and models have gotten out of control. The pricing has far surpassed inflation. I clicked on that thing and threw a few basic accessories on it (roof, windshield, winch, etc) and for a simple setup you’re going to be over $30k for a regular cab Ranger. Woof.

My father-in-law priced out a nice Ranger this last year. When he had it done he was pushing $30k. He said that was stupid for too much plastic and went and paid cash for a Jeep Wrangler that’s got a better ride, will last longer, be more durable with 3 times the power, and is more capable off-roading down trails and whatnot for about $37k.

I’m not disagreeing that the prices are ridiculous, especially since I paid less for a loaded full sized truck not too long ago, but they are already sold out for the year. With that kind of demand there is no reason for Polaris to consider reducing the prices.

blackbay wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>buckybadger wrote:</div>
Prices on side by sides of all brands and models have gotten out of control. The pricing has far surpassed inflation. I clicked on that thing and threw a few basic accessories on it (roof, windshield, winch, etc) and for a simple setup you’re going to be over $30k for a regular cab Ranger. Woof.

My father-in-law priced out a nice Ranger this last year. When he had it done he was pushing $30k. He said that was stupid for too much plastic and went and paid cash for a Jeep Wrangler that’s got a better ride, will last longer, be more durable with 3 times the power, and is more capable off-roading down trails and whatnot for about $37k.

I’m not disagreeing that the prices are ridiculous, especially since I paid less for a loaded full sized truck not too long ago, but they are already sold out for the year. With that kind of demand there is no reason for Polaris to consider reducing the prices.

^None. The prices are going nowhere but up.

I’d just rather have another 4wd vehicle that is more versatile and less plastic for the same cost.

David Anderson wrote:

The real question is not if they will be mined but when.

You have too much faith in Minnesota government and Minnesota voters…
IF they will be mined has been a very big question for 20 years.

Coletrain27 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>buckybadger wrote:</div>
my father-in-law priced out a nice Ranger this last year. When he had it done he was pushing $30k. He said that was stupid for too much plastic and went and paid cash for a Jeep Wrangler that’s got a better ride, will last longer, be more durable with 3 times the power, and is more capable off-roading down trails and whatnot for about $37k.

more capable than a side by side? most the trails ive rode in northern mn or wi dont even allow jeeps on them. a jeep wouldnt make it about half the trails we ride and would take 10X longer to do the same amount of miles

Very true on trails. If you are getting a side by side to ride trails or use on ice there are not many other options for portability and weight. If we are talking climbing hills, rocks, etc. that require bigger tires and ground clearance, the Jeeps would probably excel at a different form off-roading. Different tools for different jobs.

Regardless it does not sway my opinion that I’d rather have a Wrangler set-up long before a 1000cc belt-driven Ranger for a similar price point around $30k.

So it’s like a fancy golf cart?

Yeah the pricing is pretty nuts right now. i looked at a few older EV models this past month and wasn’t in love with them. just felt like a oversized golfcart. I’m moving trailers around and other things on the property.

I ended up finding a pretty sweet deal on low hr/mile crew 500. does everything I need it to and sips gas.

A loaded EV Poo is > 40k without any major accessories. No thanks, I like to sit in my Can Am Defender with the heat on while watching the tip-ups not worrying about a battery getting me back to shore.