Bearcat89, yes I feel the Garmin Panoptix has the ability to be a complete game changer in the ice fishing world. However I never used ice fishing yet, but from my experience on the open water doing my little tests and what it can do. Can’t even begin to realize what it’s going to do on the ice… This I can’t wait for. But the price is hard to swallow going for $1800 complete package. You can build a package buying pieces separate. One of the pluses is the ability to have dock stations and using one head unit. For example you can have a panoptix transducer mounted on your boat,and have another portable. Just use the 1 head unit for both with 2 different dock stations. It does come with the tradition transducer but in all honest your getting it for the panoptix option. Now for the price I did a lot of research in finding a good price. Amazon has the unit for sale at $1799 but if you watch it, will bounce back and forth to $1652 like one day it’s at $1652 and then that same day it’s gone and back at $1799. I found Ebay to suck in a deal, did have a guy selling used at $1400 but that lasted like 4 min.. I called Garmin directly, and they do not run a sale on this unit. Also talked with a sale rep from Garmin and asked about the up coming show on November 30 at the Minneapolis Ice Expo. They will have a special and this price was not discussed, but from past experiences it will most likely be credit towards Garmin gear not off the unit itself. I got my unit from and dealer called “Boat Doctor” in Lamira, Wi. For $1500 so that’s a good starting point. Also in the looking to purchase I found it confusing on what all comes in the package deals so if your looking to purchase the ice bundle that does have the Swivel kit which is needed.. so if anyone is interested in this unit, it is feel worth the price for its ability and what it can do, I hope this info can help others…