Packer nation rejoice

Aim right Forbath. Aim right.

mplspug wrote:

Aim right Forbath. Aim right.

We may have to tie a knot in the left side of his jock strap to help with his wide right problem.

At least Blair Walsh isn’t kicking for us! He now has a memorable wide left and wide right.

My prediction is that the GBP organization continues its oblivious navel-gazing. They’ve built up this notion of “Packers culture” and convinced themselves that outsiders don’t get it. They will stay 100% internal on these high-level hires:

– GM will either be Eliot Wolf (because family first) or Russ Ball (who says you need to know about football to be a GM). Regardless of the choice Uncle Ted will be whispering sweet nothings about the value of compensatory picks into his ear all off-season. The first big move of the new GM’s tenure will be to trade down from the #14 pick.

– The Defensive Coordinator will be either Winston Moss or Joe Whitt (because our LB and CB units have been so successful under their direction!)

– And fat Mike will either continue to let Edgar Bennet serve as a powerless OC, or just quietly give that title back to him without notifying anybody.

pool2fool wrote:

My prediction is that the GBP organization continues its oblivious navel-gazing. They’ve built up this notion of “Packers culture” and convinced themselves that outsiders don’t get it. They will stay 100% internal on these high-level hires:

P2F with the enlightened (and true imo) take! How unPackers fanish of you! well done, sir, well done!

BigWerm wrote:

P2F with the enlightened (and true imo) take! How unPackers fanish of you! well done, sir, well done!

What’s that saying about the blind squirrel and the acorn?

My old man says I’m being too negative, you don’t tear down a team that’s had 15 years of sustained success, etc. I don’t expect a total re-build to happen, but don’t wrap last year’s trash up in shiny paper and wish me a Merry Christmas, either.

C’mon GB, just prove me wrong. I’ll be the first to admit it.

eyeguy507 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Steve Hix wrote:</div>

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<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>bigpike wrote:</div>
Green and gold? That puke yellow is nowhere near the hue of gold.

You wanna talk about it or do you just need a hug?
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No need for a hug, I’m just correcting you so that next time you can call it yellow.

If you are correcting the color from gold to yellow there is no need to call it
puke yellow.

I getting tired of all the nasty comments on this site.
Don’t be saying stuff protected by a keyboard that you wouldn’t say to a persons face.

What’s your address Steve? I’ll see if I can swing over this week. I’ve said much worse to people’s faces. As if there won’t be any nasty posts here if the Kings get beat.

If it is true that you say and have said these kind of nasty things to a persons face that you do not know, I feel sorry for you.
As to my address, It is right under my name.
Are you threatening me?or do you just want to drive over and say
nasty things to me?

If the Vikings win the Superbowl, Great. If not, someone else will.
Its a game and to me not worth calling names and being mean to anyone.

I’d rather fish than be nasty.

pool2fool wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
P2F with the enlightened (and true imo) take! How unPackers fanish of you! well done, sir, well done!

What’s that saying about the blind squirrel and the acorn?

My old man says I’m being too negative, you don’t tear down a team that’s had 15 years of sustained success, etc. I don’t expect a total re-build to happen, but don’t wrap last year’s trash up in shiny paper and wish me a Merry Christmas, either.

C’mon GB, just prove me wrong. I’ll be the first to admit it.

I’m curious. Executives have left Green Bay and built successful teams that won Super Bowls (Seattle) and consistent winners (K.C.) and rebuilt a franchise from the gutter (Oakland) There isnt one executive that left and failed. With Thompson’s overall track record why would you feel the need to hire an outside candidate to get the right guy. Highsmith is going to Cleveland, Houston wants to interview Gutenkist. Wolf is considered an up and coming g.m. Ball has done great work with the cap. I guess as a fellow packer fan what is wrong with an internal candidate? Its not like the guy is gonna be Thompson’s puppet. He will bring his own style like each executive that left had his own unique style on franchise building. Additionally Coach McCarthy’ s job is on the line. In other words the G.M. in the end picks the coach maybe not this year but the next if he doesn’t want him. The packers are doing everything right in this search so far internal hire or not ..

bigpike wrote:

There isnt one executive that left and failed.

I think this is the navel gazing P2F referenced earlier. Scot McCloughan has been fired twice, Dorsey just got fired from KC, and Reggie McKenzie’s job in Oakland may depend on signing Gruden or not. And John Schneider’s made many huge errors (many to benefit the Vikes, thank you) that would have been fireable if he didn’t stumble into some homeruns (Wilson and Sherman near the top of the list). But yeah keep it the “Packers Way”, I’m all for it!!!

Agreed they are only top 2 or 3 most successful franchises of the last 30 years. Blow it all up. And say it’s because they got lucky and had franchise qbs. Guess what : Thompson chose Rodgers when real smart franchises like Minnesota passed on him twice and Wolf traded for Favre when everyone thought he was nuts

I wonder how many Viking fans would trade straight up the success of the “Packer Way” of the last 30 years over the unbelievable success of teams like the Vikings Bears and Lions (combined together) and just about any other franchise save the Patriots and the Steelers

Buehler…..Buehler………Buehler……Buehler……

Not sure what argument you are making. Have the packers been successful? Yes. There are those that also say the other side of the coin is that 2 titles with their situation is a failure but that’s beside the fact. Have G.B. executives gone on to have success with other organizations? Yes. Everything big werm said is also true. The Vikings have absolutely fleeced the Seahawks over the years in trades and made the right decision on letting them outbid our Free agents….

I don’t think there is really anything wrong with hiring from within like the pack like to do but I think the consensus from many is a change is necessary and this move doesn’t sound like change but more of the same.

As long as aaron Rodgers plays qb for that team they will always be a threat. That’s all the matters

bigpike wrote:

Agreed they are only top 2 or 3 most successful franchises of the last 30 years. Blow it all up. And say it’s because they got lucky and had franchise qbs. Guess what : Thompson chose Rodgers when real smart franchises like Minnesota passed on him twice and Wolf traded for Favre when everyone thought he was nuts

First off, yes, I’d trade the Vikings last 30 years for 30 years of Favre/Rogers, duh.

But seriously dude, put down the rose tinted glasses, surpassing the Lions/Vikings is not as high a bar as you think it is. Also, *pssst*, the Bears have as many super bowls in the last 30 years as the Packers do, and they have 0 years of HOF QBs in that time.

Here’s all the teams with 2 or more super bowls in the last 30 years, with an estimate of how many years they had a GOOD starting QB, if you limit this to HOF QBs then those numbers drop significantly in some cases.

Patriots have won 5. (15, 23 if you count Bledsoe)
Giants have 4. (16)
Niners have 3. (13)
Broncos have 3. (15)
Cowboys have 3. (22, but Aikman/Romo is NOT at same level as Favre/Rodgers)
Redskins have 2. (6, and this is generous)
Ravens have 2(in 21 years). (2? maybe?)
Steelers have won two. (13)
Bears have two. (0?)

So Packers are like, a solid top 10.

The only thing the Packers are ‘top 2 or 3’ in the past 30 years is ‘# of years where your starting QB is a inner circle hall of famer’. Which objectively makes this 30 year time span look disappointing in retrospect. Considering many teams have done better in that time frame with much worse options at QB.

I don’t hold a grudge with Packer fans, a lot of my really good friends cheer for the green and gold, but if your expectations aren’t higher than ‘1 super bowl every 15 years’ with those QBs, then that’s sad.

Much like the Saints will be disappointed getting 1 super bowl out of Brees, Colts only got 1 out of Peyton, etc…

I’m very sad to watch my team win two super bowls and lose one. Also very sad that they competed in a half dozen or so championship games. Many division titles. It’s all pretty sad. Sadness in hall of fame players like Reggie White and Charles Woodson both free agents that chose Green Bay. Go drink the 1 year wonder purple kool aid with your mediocre qb…I’ll take the sadness of recent green and gold history over any team. The Packer way of consistent winning is just fine with this fan.

Ted Thomoson
13 Years as Packers general manager.

135 Total victories.

90 Total losses.

9 Playoff appearances.

1 Super Bowl victory.

4 NFC Championship Games.

10 Postseason victories.

8 Postseason losses.

15 Most wins in a season (2011)

Team Division
Championships Playoff
Berths NFL League
Titles Super Bowl
Appearances Super Bowl
Wins
Minnesota Vikings 20 29 1 4 0
Green Bay Packers 15 22 2 5 4
Chicago Bears 10 14 0 2 1
Detroit Lions 3 12 0 0 0

Since 1966…The Vikes have been pretty solid, but the number that really matters is the Super Bowl wins.
Maybe this year, if I had a dime for every time I uttered those words, well, I’d have like five bucks.

Any Packer fans hoping the purple pull it off?

Yes Thompson probably just got lucky drafting Rodgers because he hasn’t got anyone else decent on offense or defense

I love the passion BigPike! The moral of the story is the NFL is a what have you done lately league, and Ted Thompson hasn’t done enough to keep his job. Same as most of the guys from his “tree”, that I mentioned earlier. That’s not even a knock on them, as it’s not a career meant for longevity. The reason TT got fired/reassigned is simply bc he has not been able to put a running game or even mediocre defense around Rodgers. Which by TT choice he only tried to do so thru the draft, and his drafts have *mostly* sucked since Rodgers was drafted.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/draft.htm

BigWerm wrote:

I love the passion BigPike! The moral of the story is the NFL is a what have you done lately league, and Ted Thompson hasn’t done enough to keep his job. Same as most of the guys from his “tree”, that I mentioned earlier. That’s not even a knock on them, as it’s not a career meant for longevity. The reason TT got fired/reassigned is simply bc he has not been able to put a running game or even mediocre defense around Rodgers. Which by TT choice he only tried to do so thru the draft, and his drafts have *mostly* sucked since Rodgers was drafted.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/draft.htm

yep, getting hired in the NFL is the first step to getting fired.

I look forward to beating the pack with a healthy Rodgers next year. SKOL

crappie55369 wrote:

I look forward to beating the pack with a healthy Rodgers next year. SKOL

And that has been done.

crappie55369 wrote:

I look forward to beating the pack with a healthy Rodgers next year. SKOL

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super_do wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>eyeguy507 wrote:</div>
Green and gold? That puke yellow is nowhere near the hue of gold.

I don’t know…….looks like gold to me?

You Sconies are definately color blind! The Superbowl trophy is actually made of sterling silver. This post pretty much proves my point

eyeguy507 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
I look forward to beating the pack with a healthy Rodgers next year. SKOL

So, Rodgers walks into a Barr…

bigpike wrote:

I guess as a fellow packer fan what is wrong with an internal candidate? Its not like the guy is gonna be Thompson’s puppet. He will bring his own style like each executive that left had his own unique style on franchise building. Additionally Coach McCarthy’ s job is on the line. In other words the G.M. in the end picks the coach maybe not this year but the next if he doesn’t want him. The packers are doing everything right in this search so far internal hire or not ..

I’m not insistent they go out of house for GM. But if they keep ALL positions internal, that sends a message in my opinion that they still believe the way they’ve been doing things is “working,” and I disagree with that. I also don’t have the confidence you have that Thompson won’t remain heavily influential.

crappie55369 wrote:

I don’t think there is really anything wrong with hiring from within like the pack like to do but I think the consensus from many is a change is necessary and this move doesn’t sound like change but more of the same.

This.

belletaine wrote:

Any Packer fans hoping the purple pull it off?

Let’s mot get carried away

eyeguy507 wrote:

You Sconies are definately color blind! The Superbowl trophy is actually made of sterling silver. This post pretty much proves my point

You are so correct. He should’ve posted these:

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belletaine wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>eyeguy507 wrote:</div>

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
I look forward to beating the pack with a healthy Rodgers next year. SKOL

So, Rodgers walks into a Barr…

LOLOLOL now that’s funny

Interesting…

http://www.si.com/nfl/2018/01/03/packers-front-office-ted-thompson-mike-mccarthy-aaron-rodgers

I feel sorry for Rodgers in a way. If the Packers could ever assemble any kind of a defense the Packers wouldn’t require all the heroics and hail Mary’s.