So I know I want a Citori, but can’t justify the price with the amount of use it will get. I searched the archives here already, if I recall correctly someone was running a Tri Star on here. Also looked at CZ Redhead, Mossberg Int Reserve and the Savage/Stevens 555. Plan would be to chase some grouse, pheasants and occasional trap shooting. Anyone have input on these or something else I should look at.
I have 555e in 16ga and like it. They’re pretty simple so can’t really have problems with any of them I think. It’s so light it’s like carrying a toy which is main reason I got it. This model forcefully ejects fired shells, I’d prefer it to just lift them but that’s pretty minor and I’m used to ejecting them into hand now.
My only complaint that is a slight build quality issue is the 4 way safety/barrel selector can be in a middle position where it won’t fire. Once I realized that’s what happens though I just make sure I push it to the barrel I want when I start and it’s never got out of wack while using it. I think it was cleaning or in the case it would sometimes get pushed to the middle and not be firmly on over or under.
Get the browning. Buy once cry once 
I have 555e in 16ga and like it.
Oh, and 16ga is a great compromise but poop ammo selection. I’d probably get 12 or 20 if you want variety and are going to shoot much volume.
I’ve got a franchi instinct in 16ga. Agree with the tough ammo selection but it’s specifically for pheasant and grouse so im able to find what i need. I just ordered a case of Boss shells so good to go for a season or 2. Love the weight and since you mention not shooting a lot you wouldn’t need to worry about durability. The only thing would be heavier guns are a little easier on the arm for trap shooting.
I agree with Youbetcha, buy once, cry once. The Weatherby Orion is a very nice OU for a good price. Couple guys a shoot with have them and really like them. I’ve shot them a few times and would not hesitate to buy one.
Cz makes a nice shot gun. That red head is a nice gun, the all terrain is a beautiful gun and comes in a ultralight version 12 or 20g as well as over under or side x side
Tristar, stevens 555, mossberg reserve, cz redhead, and weatherby Orion are all made in Turkey. Google says each supplier is a different name and I’m not researching whether they are actually different or not but I doubt there is huge quality difference between any of them. How many over/under shotguns factories are there in Turkey I wonder… 
I think it’s really a choice of whichever Turkish model has the specifics you want vs stepping up to Franchi/Beretta/Browning.
Cz makes a nice shot gun. That red head is a nice gun, the all terrain is a beautiful gun and comes in a ultralight version 12 or 20g as well as over under or side x side
I just looked at that one and it is nice. At 5.9 lbs in the 20 gauge it has my interest. I most likely won’t be joining a trap league or anything, so not to worried about the kick. I have only shot trap twice in my life both at company events. Just shot in one yesterday and used my Super Nova, lets just say I could use some practice lol.
How many over/under shotguns factories are there in Turkey I wonder…
That’s an interesting question Reef, I wonder the same thing.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bearcat89 wrote:</div>
Cz makes a nice shot gun. That red head is a nice gun, the all terrain is a beautiful gun and comes in a ultralight version 12 or 20g as well as over under or side x sideI just looked at that one and it is nice. At 5.9 lbs in the 20 gauge it has my interest. I most likely won’t be joining a trap league or anything, so not to worried about the kick. I have only shot trap twice in my life both at company events. Just shot in one yesterday and used my Super Nova, lets just say I could use some practice lol.
You wouldn’t regret a cz, everyone i played with were great shooters
Thanks BC. Would like to shoulder one and seems hard to find any in stock around here.
You wouldn’t regret a cz, everyone i played with were great shooters
Scheels will usually have them or order them in
Scheels will usually have them or order them in
I looked at there website and didn’t even see them listing the all terrain let alone have one in stock.
I know what the original poster is talking about.
Let me start by stating that the Beretta and Browning O/Us have increased in price by about 30% in the past 3-4 years.
Beretta makes an O/U that rivals or surpasses the Browning line. If you are going to spend the money at least lift and shoulder a Beretta too.
Franchi makes a very nice O/U that is priced around where entry level Beretta and Browning O/Us used to be … $1800 – $2000.
Look at the Weatherby Orion O/U (Scheels has them). They are very nicely made and run $899 before tax. I have a 20g. Orion (made different than the current version) that I bought in the 80s. It has been my grouse gun ever since.
Believe it or not … MFF carries many if not all of these O/Us … you can lift and shoulder one after another.
Franchi instinct SL. I liked my 20 ga 26” barrel as my grouse gun so much that I bought the exact same gun in 28” for my pheasant gun. I also have a 20 ga 28” citori that I never touch because I like the franchi so much. Thr main reason being is that thing feels like a tank weight wise compared to my franchi. My franchi is a hair over 5 lbs. If the gun is for hunting, weight makes all the difference in the world. If it’s just a trap/skeet gun, more weight is better.
The Steven 555’s are good guns for the money. I personally have all 5 gauges it is made in. I find I shoot the 20 ga the most. I like that for chasing pheasant during the early part of the season and trap shooting. then for grouse and squirrels I like the 28GA. Have been tempted to try the 410 on squirrels sometime too for more of a challenge. 16 GA is a good midseason pheasant gun and then I would go to my 12ga for late season pheasants. the Mossberg Silver reserves are good too, had a couple of them in the past.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Reef W wrote:</div>
How many over/under shotguns factories are there in Turkey I wonder…That’s an interesting question Reef, I wonder the same thing.
don’t know the answer to that but I do know that the one big one was Khan they made the original Mossberg Silver Reserves. I actually had a Khan before Mossberg started getting the silver reserves from them. it was a decent gun but if you didn’t have it tight in your shoulder when you shot it would fire both barrels at the same time due to inertia.
The thing I don’t like about CZs is they don’t have ejectors. Otherwise they’re really nice guns
I have a Citori and a Beretta, they are both wonderful guns. The 20 gauge citori has gone on more rabbit and pheasant hunts then anything else in my safe. Cheap O/Us feel cheap. I’m looking at saving up to get a nice SxS as well.
Doesn’t anyone use a Ruger OU anymore?
Doesn’t anyone use a Ruger OU anymore?
They stopped making them ~10 years ago
I’ve been very happy with my SKB. It mostly sees usage shooting ducks.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>nord wrote:</div>
Doesn’t anyone use a Ruger OU anymore?They stopped making them ~10 years ago
Your point being? There are a lot of firearm models, no longer in production, yet used on a regular basis.
Your point being?
This is a thread about someone buying a new one and people have been recommending guns that are being produced? I’m sure people still shoot the ones they have though.
Reef W, I didn’t know that. I had a 20 and a 12. Loved them both.
The thing I don’t like about CZs is they don’t have ejectors. Otherwise they’re really nice guns
One of the things I like about the CZ is that it has extractors. That said, I went SxS rather than OU.
Your first concern is weight of the gun. Target shooting guns are heavy, hunting guns are light. Target guns are shot often and carried little. Hunting guns are carried often and shot little. Weight soaks up recoil. Most hunting guns have a sweet spot of 6.5 pounds give or take. Target guns are often 8 to 10 pounds. If you get a field gun and want to shoot clays with it, be picky about your ammo. Look for lighter and slower shells and you’ll be okay.
This is a thread about someone buying a new one and people have been recommending guns that are being produced? I’m sure people still shoot the ones they have though.
I don’t see where the OP mentions anything about only looking at new guns and would not purchase a nice used model.
So I know I want a Citori, but can’t justify the price with the amount of use it will get. I searched the archives here already, if I recall correctly someone was running a Tri Star on here. Also looked at CZ Redhead, Mossberg Int Reserve and the Savage/Stevens 555. Plan would be to chase some grouse, pheasants and occasional trap shooting. Anyone have input on these or something else I should look at.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Gitchi Gummi wrote:</div>
The thing I don’t like about CZs is they don’t have ejectors. Otherwise they’re really nice gunsOne of the things I like about the CZ is that it has extractors. That said, I went SxS rather than OU.
Why would you want extractors over ejectors? Honest question. I can’t think of a reason why there’d be any benefit to extractors over ejectors. I can reload twice as fast (with ejectors) compared to my buddy who has extractors.
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