I can’t say much for other suits, as I just upgraded from my old Carharts to the Ice Force bibs. I almost wore them to bed that first night, they’re extremely comfortable, more than warm enough for me, I had to down layer in fact! I seldom use a shelter and I’ve put it to some -15 temps already and the only things that got cold were my nose, toes, and hands. I’ve probably knocked off 10lbs of clothing weight in the switch and that helps. Knee/seat padding is good, you don’t feel the little ice bumps when kneeling or sitting next to the hole, and my inner layers haven’t gotten wet yet so water isn’t seeping through anywhere. There are waterproof soft pockets and spacious cargo pockets that hold all the million nick-nacks that I like to bring out on the ice. I’ve heard great things about snosuits and striker suits too, but I’m happy with what I got.