So just got to thinking on an average bass trip how many bags of plastics do you go through for me at least 2 bags of something a trip usually wacky worms ned rig or ribbon tail worms. It seems like a go through a lot but the boot tails or swim tail plastics I cant get rid of them. Just got me thinking do you buy in bulk mix it up?
Maybe 1 if I’m using worms.
If I’m using Rage Bugs, and pitching to shallow cover it’s more like 1 or 2 depending on how many fish catches.
Really kind of depends on the plastic. Yamamoto plastics are not very durable but they are very effective so I go through more of those if I’m using them. Zman elaztech is extremely durable and I often don’t go through more than one per outing. I don’t remember going through an entire bag during any outing regardless of the brand. 2 bags? Never.
I go through maybe a bag if I’m using cheap ones, but I now try to buy all my stuff from a local guy, he pours a ton of plastics and I buy in gallon bags
Depends. How are you rigging your wacky, are you using orings or silicone bands? Silicone bands have made my wacky last a long time.
Silicone bands have made my wacky last a long time.
I primarily use the o-rings when I rig a stick bait so they tend to last quite a while doing that. Seems like they are more likely to slide off than tear or rip to be honest.
I haven’t tried silicone bands yet, but I’ve been using small pieces of 5/16″ heat shrink tubing for a couple of years now. Works much better than the o-rings.
Depending on how long an outing is, but I don’t think I’ve ever gone through a single bag of plastics unless it’s an all day of fishing. The plastics that I go through the most are boot tails, from small fish ripping the tail off.
1 to 2 bags is not uncommon for me in a longer outing. Berkeley powerworms are rather soft and sometimes only last 1 fish. I bite them down and keep using them if possible. My buddy fishes the 4” ones and I bet he goes through 2 or more bags each outing. The sell the 7” ones in 100 packs in some colors but they don’t sell the 4” size in bulk packs. I know my buddy purchased 100 bags of the 4” in the off-season and said the other day he’s getting down there and needs to place another order. He fishes ALOT. I wish the fish liked the zman baits as well as they do the powerworms but they just don’t. Zman needs to figure out a way to get some good scent into those worms.
I just started using the o rings on my stickbaits this year. That REALLY helps. With starting to use the Neko rig a fair amount I often make 1 bait last a whole outing. I did figure out how to get a nail weight into a zman bait. I use a long skinny finish nail to open up a hole in the worm. I then insert the nail weight and push it completely into the bait with the help of the head on the finish nail. I then seal the end with a lighter. Be careful that material burns fast and hot. While still hot I push the end against a flat metal surface. Seems to work. I have not tried the baits yet, but have several baits all setup and ready to go. For those who wacky rig zman baits do you still use the o rings? It seems like they don’t hug the bait tight and may slip out of the o ring easy. I will probably hook through the o ring and plastic both since they are so tough.
I just started using the o rings on my stickbaits this year. That REALLY helps.
I have read that some people use 2 o-rings over lapped and then put the hook under the cross section of them. I have not personally done this but it would also keep the hook directly perpendicular to the stick bait as well in addition to reduce the potential for the stick bait sliding completely off (which does happen to me occasionally).
I use senkos a lot and usually go through nearly a bag on each outing (3-4 hours). I found the 30 pack bags of Yum brand at Lil’ Jim’s in the color I like, so I’ll be buying bulk from now on. I’m going to try the double o-ring method tonight. That sounds like it could help a lot, especially when wacky hooking.
I’ve found shrink tubing and slightly hooking into the meat of the worm too works best. More surface area to resist tearing.
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I’ve found shrink tubing and slightly hooking into the meat of the worm too works best. More surface area to resist tearing.
That looks like a good old lake fork rig fry to me. They use to be my go to bait. They skip really well when you need to get way back under docks to places other don’t.
I think I’ll have to pull out a old supply of them and give them a try on a Neko rig. Just a slightly different look than a stick work.
“That looks like a good old lake fork rig fry to me.”
Actually, it’s a Grande Bass Airtail Rattler. Tail has an air bubble that floats/undulates so when you nail weight the other end it’s the perfect vertical Neko worm IMO. Skips like a dream too. With the Cadman’s shrink tubing, I average 3-5 fish per worm, sometimes more. With the big ones you catch Thumper – it may be less though!
“That looks like a good old lake fork rig fry to me.”
Actually, it’s a Grande <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>Bass Airtail Rattler. Tail has an air bubble that floats/undulates so when you nail weight the other end it’s the perfect vertical Neko worm IMO. Skips like a dream too. With the Cadman’s shrink tubing, I average 3-5 fish per worm, sometimes more. With the big ones you catch Thumper – it may be less though!
You had me at air bubble. Now I definitely need to try these.
Zee bubble!
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“That looks like a good old lake fork rig fry to me.”Actually, it’s a Grande <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>Bass Airtail Rattler. Tail has an air bubble that floats/undulates so when you nail weight the other end it’s the perfect vertical Neko worm IMO. Skips like a dream too. With the Cadman’s shrink tubing, I average 3-5 fish per worm, sometimes more. With the big ones you catch Thumper – it may be less though!
You had me at air bubble. Now I definitely need to try these.
I’ve caught more 20 inch plus largemouth on these in the past 2 years. Thicker profile with the ribs seems to equate to bigger size fish. Grande Bass also released a new Neko/Shaky worm this spring that also has an air bubble in the tail. I haven’t tried it yet, but it looks like the Daiwa/Yamamoto Neko Fat worms, except the tail floats. I have some on order to compare but it will be really hard to unseat the Rattler for big fish IMO.
Zee bubble!
It’s frustrating……..Great movie.
If you go with the thicker Airtail Rattlers, I highly recommend these sleeves:
http://cadmansjigs.weebly.com/wacky-worm-sleeves.html
Standard O-rings won’t fit. I originally bought the Cadman’s for wacky worms but they’re a little too big. But they slide onto the Rattlers perfectly, can do with your fingers no tool needed.
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