NOCO Jump Pack

Because of this thread I just brought by GB70 in to top off the charge and it was still full. Its been a long time since I topped it off. I never get to use it but its nice knowing it’s there.

suzuki wrote:

Its been a long time since I topped it off. I never get to use it but its nice knowing it’s there.

I am amazed at how long those things can hold a charge. I charge mine up about once a year and it always has almost its full life when I do it.

I’ve never used mine either.

I don’t think a jump pack cares what kind of battery it’s jumping.

I’ve got an Interstate Battery brand jump pack. It’s saved me one time so far.

jwellsy wrote:

I don’t think a jump pack cares what kind of battery it’s jumping.

The warning is to not jump something with a lithium battery. If the BMS can’t handle it you’ll fry it and the battery.

Reef W wrote:

The warning is to not jump something with a lithium battery. If the BMS can’t handle it you’ll fry it and the battery.

I agree that you wouldn’t want to use a crazy high voltage source. But if your jumping a 12v battery with a 12-13v source, what difference does battery chemistry make?

jwellsy wrote:

I agree that you wouldn’t want to use a crazy high voltage source. But if your jumping a 12v battery with a 12-13v source, what difference does battery chemistry make?

I don’t know the exact mechanism of why it’s different but something to do with the amperage, not the voltage, it seems. A jump start is dumping a lot of current that should go to starter but is also connected to the dead battery so my guesses would be the circuitry of a BMS can’t handle it while a lead-acid doesn’t have that. Or maybe something with internal resistances that a lifepo4 actually takes in that current and a lead-acid doesn’t.

Noco does say that some lithium started batteries can be jump started, like their own motorsport batteries, but it otherwise depends on if the battery supports it or not and I don’t know how you determine that.

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If the Lithium Ion battery is not rated for starting there should be no reason to jump it. My Iconic Lithium battery is rated for 1100 cranking amps and is 125 amp hours. This is made for starting motors and should not be confused with a normal Lithium like a LiTime 100 amp hour. Those are made for trolling motors or solar.

James Almquist wrote:

If the Lithium Ion battery is not rated for starting there should be no reason to jump it. My Iconic Lithium battery is rated for 1100 cranking amps and is 125 amp hours. This is made for starting motors and should not be confused with a normal Lithium like a LiTime 100 amp hour. Those are made for trolling motors or solar.

That’s a discharge characteristic though. Using an external jump starter is a charge to the starting battery and charging is not the same as discharging. Attachment is a ReLion starting battery for example and a jump starter can provide much higher amperage than what it lists for peak charge. Will it actually fry it or not, I don’t know, but Noco might have said not to do it for a reason. Somebody test and see what happens

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All I know is that those LI jumpstart packs are the best thing since sliced bread. I’ve never used one on my own vehicle yet but when you see that situation where somebody’s got their hood open in a frozen parking lot, you feel like a mechanical genius rolling up there and pulling that jump start pack out.

Personally I keep AC/DC’s Back In Black queued up so I can have some walk-up music for these occasions.

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

All I know is that those LI jumpstart packs are the best thing since sliced bread. I’ve never used one on my own vehicle yet but when you see that situation where somebody’s got their hood open in a frozen parking lot, you feel like a mechanical genius rolling up there and pulling that jump start pack out.

Personally I keep AC/DC’s Back In Black queued up so I can have some walk-up music for these occasions.

I was the absolute hero at this years Halloween trunk or treat at our school. Everyone was running inflatables off the batteries of their Subarus and all of them were dead. I just walked through the parking lot playing “Hero of the Day” by Metallica as I started everyone’s cars.

Matt Moen wrote:

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All I know is that those LI jumpstart packs are the best thing since sliced bread. I’ve never used one on my own vehicle yet but when you see that situation where somebody’s got their hood open in a frozen parking lot, you feel like a mechanical genius rolling up there and pulling that jump start pack out.

Personally I keep AC/DC’s Back In Black queued up so I can have some walk-up music for these occasions.

I was the absolute hero at this years Halloween trunk or treat at our school. Everyone was running inflatables off the batteries of their Subarus and all of them were dead. I just walked through the parking lot playing “Hero of the Day” by Metallica as I started everyone’s cars.

Someone has to save all the soccer moms…and I’d fall on that sword too if needed

I live in S MPLS…alot of soccer dads and soccer they/thems. Gotta be a little careful.

When it comes to jumping soccer moms, Matt Moen is the man.

Wait. That doesn’t sound right. Try this again.

Nobody has jumped more soccer moms than IDO’s own Matt “Kickstart My Heart” Moen.

I bought an Audew and used it a few times when my daughter’s car wouldn’t start 2 winters ago. It turned out to be a bad ground from the battery to the frame. Maybe I got a bad one but it wouldn’t hold a charge more than a few months. Bought a NOCO GB40. Have never used it. I keep that in the boat and bought a NOCO GB40 for my truck. Those hold there charge a long, long time. I gave my kids each a NOCO GB70 for Xmas for their cars. A little overkill for a 4 cylinder car but that’s the IDO way.
I say get a NOCO not an Audew or whatever it’s called these days. I remember James Holst used and recommended the NOCOs from a previous thread.

Black Friday usually has some killer deals on those NOCOs. The GB40 is adequate for most sedans and standard SUVs. You might want to take it up a notch on a big SUV or full size truck.

gim wrote:

Black Friday usually has some killer deals on those NOCOs. The GB40 is adequate for most sedans and standard SUVs. You might want to take it up a notch on a big SUV or full size truck.

Black Friday is a long ways away. Please remind me in 10 months I want one

Lol ok will try to

Matt Moen wrote:
I was the absolute hero at this years Halloween trunk or treat at our school. Everyone was running inflatables off the batteries of their Subarus and all of them were dead. I just walked through the parking lot playing “Hero of the Day” by Metallica as I started everyone’s cars.
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I am surprised that these Subaru owners did not all have jump packs themselves. Being a Subaru owner is exactly the reason that I started buying jump packs. Between questionable batteries, parasitic draws and questionable alternating charging programming Subaru has become the leader in the car world for dead batteries. And battery maintainers are also a necessity as well…..

This thread was amazingly entertaining to read.

Anyone try the Zeus, looks speedy but also has a air compressor

The 4500ah Yaber with compressor was on my amazon greatly discounted. Original $129, sale $69.99, and 30% offf that…so around $50. Heckuva deal IMO

acarroline wrote:

The 4500ah Yaber with compressor was on my amazon greatly discounted. Original $129, sale $69.99, and 30% offf that…so around $50. Heckuva deal IMO

I just picked one up…that’s a great deal.

Noco is a great jump pack. Saying that, I have a Gooloo 2000 that I picked up yrs back for $100. Absolutely love it, they are cheaper now and you can get the 3000 version for that now. As to what type of battery it can be used on, I really don’t think it matters.
Not only that, the main distributer for Ionic, sells and recommends a Noco jump pack for lith batteries. If you are getting one for lith boat batteries or any battery for that matter, what you want is one that will work with a battery that has gone below the 10 volt area, as if it doesn’t have that ability, it will not allow any charging or jump to take place, similar to most stand-alone chargers that will not charge a battery below a certain voltage.
Noco’s and Gooloo’s have an override that will allow a dead battery to take the jump, not all do, and this is an important feature.
On lith starting batteries this is extremely important as sometimes they will go in protection mode and shut off but can be woke up with the right jump pack.
You cannot just charge them back up at home unless your built in charger is something like a Minnkota lith charger that will wake it up first.
With a Noco, Gooloo, or any other jump pack that has a similar feature that allows it to work with a shut down or dead battery, you will have the ability for it to work with a dead battery, or a Lith battery that shut itself off over something it didn’t like at the moment. You then would be able to connect the jump pack, wake up the lith battery, and be on your way.
Anyway, what this all means is they should work with any battery, lith included. Also, agm as most all new vehicles are now agm.

Musky Ed wrote:

Not only that, the main distributer for Ionic, sells and recommends a Noco jump pack for lith batteries. If you are getting one for lith boat batteries or any battery for that matter, what you want is one that will work with a battery that has gone below the 10 volt area, as if it doesn’t have that ability, it will not allow any charging or jump to take place, similar to most stand-alone chargers that will not charge a battery below a certain voltage.
Noco’s and Gooloo’s have an override that will allow a dead battery to take the jump, not all do, and this is an important feature.
On lith starting batteries this is extremely important as sometimes they will go in protection mode and shut off but can be woke up with the right jump pack.

This is great information. I have had the same issue with so called smart battery chargers. They will not charge a severely deleted battery because they read the battery as having a dead cell if it is below a certain voltage.

I gave Gooloo battery packs as Christmas gifts to my dad and BIL last year. Sooner or later they’ll need it.

I’ve got the GB40 for the machines and GB150 for the diesel – definitely worth it, especially if you can find a deal.

Matt Moen wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>acarroline wrote:</div>
The 4500ah Yaber with compressor was on my amazon greatly discounted. Original $129, sale $69.99, and 30% offf that…so around $50. Heckuva deal IMO

I just picked one up…that’s a great deal.

Lots of terrible reviews on that yaber if you look in to it. Most all YouTube videos show it being dead after a couple weeks of sitting in a car. Every one says the air compressor makes the unit over heat and the company is impossible to get ahold of. So that sounds like it’s right in the 50 dollar alley.

I just picked one up…that’s a great deal.

Lots of terrible reviews on that yaber if you look in to it. Most all YouTube videos show it being dead after a couple weeks of sitting in a car. Every one says the air compressor makes the unit over heat and the company is impossible to get ahold of. So that sounds like it’s right in the 50 dollar alley.
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2100+ Reviews on Amazon….88% are 4-5 star. I found similar positives in youtube and walmart reviews. I don’t doubt some have had negative experiences, and there is probably something better out there…but so far this has worked for me (twice) to jump a battery and held a charge stored in the vehicle. So far so good, time will tell…

The Yaber reviews on Amazon are pretty good but I’ll try it and return it if it doesn’t work.

I need a replacement for my little ryobi tire pump. If this doesn’t work I’ll get another Ryobi but mine crapped out after only 3 years and minimal use.

2100+ Reviews on Amazon….88% are 4-5 star. I found similar positives in youtube and walmart reviews. I don’t doubt some have had negative experiences, and there is probably something better out there…but so far this has worked for me (twice) to jump a battery and held a charge stored in the vehicle. So far so good, time will tell…
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I never buy the Amazon reviews they get so pimped with 5 star I think half of its bots. But if you’ve actually used it and had success with it, that’s great. I was trying to find real life reviews with videos but all I found was more negative then positive. I’m looking for a good jump pack but always leary on Amazon reviews when a buddy showed me how many are fake reviews. Or 5 start reviews and then the description reads they haven’t used it.