New ZEBRA MUSSEL Infestation CHRISTMAS LAKE Shorewood, (Hennepin & Carver Co) MN

  • JoAnn Johnson
    Posts: 1
    #1446671

    From MCWD email to Chanhassen City Officials

    From: Craig Dawson [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 4:02 PM
    Subject: Zebra mussels found at Christmas Lake

    We found Saturday (August 16), and confirmed with the DNR today, that zebra mussels are present in Christmas Lake. It appears that their extent is limited to the immediate public access site (see attachment), and that they were introduced sometime after July 29. Information at this time is limited, and anything additional would be speculation. More information will be provided as it becomes available. We expect that the DNR will issue a media release on Tuesday, perhaps a joint one with MCWD. If the media release is not done jointly, we will have a public communication on Tuesday and plan to issue it at the same time.

    Craig W. Dawson

    Director, Aquatic Invasive Species (AIS) Program

    Minnehaha Creek Watershed District

    15320 Minnetonka Blvd

    Minnetonka, MN 55345

    Direct: 952.471.8306

    Office: 952.471.0590 x306

    [email protected]

    http://www.minnehahacreek.org

    P Think Green – please do not print this email unless necessary

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1446677

    I bet they were attached to a piece of wood and boiled first. coffee

    This may be a catalyst and not a good one and one that is far reaching.

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1446686

    Wow, I hadn’t even heard that.
    The Christmas Lake Assoc. will be up in arms now.

    But, I warned the Assoc. President that the Inspectors were not showing up on time 2/3 of the time or more. He denied that and didn’t believe me. Well, boys & girls, I have Video Proof with time & date stamps from a friend that is absolute Proof.

    Should be an interesting press conference later today.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1446733

    This actually put a smile on my face.

    Be careful what you wish for. This may up the ante for other associations paying attention.

    “See, they were on top of it and fighting for limited access and it still got in. We need action now!”

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6019
    #1446745

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>fishbloodrivermud wrote:</div>
    This actually put a smile on my face.

    Be careful what you wish for. This may up the ante for other associations paying attention.

    “See, they were on top of it and fighting for limited access and it still got in. We need action now!”

    Other lake association should take note. Limit public access to the lake and see what happens…..

    -J.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1446747

    I have a few ideas.

    Close off all access to the lake. Except lakeshore property owners of course.

    Place a protective film on the lake at night. Kinda like a pool cover.

    Reclaim the lake killing all fish so that no one has any interest in going there. Do not restock the lake.

    That should do it.

    mark-bruzek
    Two Harbors, MN
    Posts: 3867
    #1446761

    Is anyone really surprised?
    It is sad to say but I am really glad this happened sooner than later, I knew it would eventually. This is what is needed to prove invasives can not be stopped no matter how liberal the measure.

    Lets hope this money pit invasive program will realize it is just that. Who am I kidding its the DNR…

    PikeFishman
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 364
    #1446769

    For those of you who are skeptics of the way the DNR handles invasives, how do you propose we limit the spread? I know I want my son and his future kids to be able to enjoy lakes without worrying about slicing their feet open on a zebra mussel on the beach…

    I am no criticizing, but instead looking for solutions and not just criticism.

    PS – I am not involved with or do I have any relationship with any members of the DNR.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6019
    #1446803

    PikeFishman, many of us believe there is no stopping the spread. Even more so, the spread is not completely being done by humans. Fact is we will just need to deal with it. By the time your grandchildren are fishing lakes in Minnesota, they will look at zeebs no differently the we look at dandelions. (Dandelions were brought over from Europe and planted as food for early settlers.)

    The DNR should see this and stop wasting time and money on the issue.

    -J.

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1446878

    Post from MCWD:

    http://minnehahacreek.org/press-release/zebra-mussels-discovered-christmas-lake

    {Text from MCWD Link}
    Zebra mussels discovered in Christmas Lake
    Planning for rapid response underway
    Tuesday, August 19, 2014

    The Minnehaha Creek Watershed District (MCWD) has discovered zebra mussels at the public boat access to Christmas Lake in Shorewood and the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR) has confirmed their presence. The MCWD and the DNR are working with others to plan a rapid response in the hopes of preventing the spread lakewide.

    The District’s aggressive early detection monitoring led to the discovery. On Saturday, August 16, MCWD staff found four zebra mussels attached to the District’s zebra mussel sampler that is suspended in the water below the public access dock. Staff found additional zebra mussels on rocks underwater and along the shoreline at the launch site. The zebra mussels were between two and six millimeters in size, indicating they were likely born this year.

    MCWD and DNR staff examined the lake further and only found zebra mussels in the immediate vicinity of the public launch.

    The District conducts rigorous monthly monitoring of Christmas Lake. The lake is considered at high risk for infestation, as it is just across Highway 7 from Lake Minnetonka, where zebra mussels have been present since 2010. Monthly early detection checks include examining the zebra mussel sampler, kayaking the shoreline, snorkeling to check underwater rocks and testing a water sample for the presence of veligers (zebra mussel larvae). In the last check on July 29, staff found no zebra mussels and none of the samples contained veligers.

    MCWD staff is working with the DNR and City of Shorewood to plan a vigorous and effective rapid response to this infestation. Because of the early detection, it may be possible to remove the zebra mussels from the site and prevent their spread throughout the lake.

    The City of Shorewood, Christmas Lake Association and MCWD help fund inspectors at the public launch from 6 a.m. until dusk, seven days a week from ice-out in the spring through the end of October.

    More information will be provided as it becomes available. Learn more at http://www.minnehahacreek.org/ais.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1446879

    FYI. I was taking a jab at lake associations and local municipalities, not the DNR.

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1446886

    The DNR should see this and stop wasting time and money on the issue.

    -J.

    Problem is much of the Inspections in SW Metro is the MCWD (Minnehaha Creek Watershed District) Funding along with Lake Associations, Counties supplementing the DNR inspections.

    They cannot stop Mother Nature combined with Multiple Other Factors including Wealth & Stupidity.

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #1446899

    Probably the derelick lake association that infected their own lake. I’m guessing these people have their head shoved up their ‘non smelly you know what’ didn’t police themselves and brought it in.

    People been wearing water moccasins since I was a kid simply due to broken glass from jerkoffs breaking glass where kids play.

    BTW, no lake has been ruined by the zebs… Talking about lake ecosystems… Not your swimming experience.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13294
    #1446904

    For those of you who are skeptics of the way the DNR handles invasives, how do you propose we limit the spread? I know I want my son and his future kids to be able to enjoy lakes without worrying about slicing their feet open on a zebra mussel on the beach…

    I am no criticizing, but instead looking for solutions and not just criticism.

    PS – I am not involved with or do I have any relationship with any members of the DNR.

    How do we limit the spread? Find a way to kill them seems like a better solution to me than limiting the use of public waters. The way its going Ill be telling my grand kids stories about the good old days of getting up early in the morning and going to fish any water I wanted. Pre scheduled boat checks, road side stops, decontamination stations, boat landing inspections, closed down water ways, limited hours to landings. These are all great ways to stop fishermen. Not so good for stopping invasive.

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1447008

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>PikeFishman wrote:</div>
    For those of you who are skeptics of the way the DNR handles invasives, how do you propose we limit the spread? I know I want my son and his future kids to be able to enjoy lakes without worrying about slicing their feet open on a zebra mussel on the beach…

    I am no criticizing, but instead looking for solutions and not just criticism.

    PS – I am not involved with or do I have any relationship with any members of the DNR.

    How do we limit the spread? Find a way to kill them seems like a better solution to me than limiting the use of public waters. The way its going Ill be telling my grand kids stories about the good old days of getting up early in the morning and going to fish any water I wanted. Pre scheduled boat checks, road side stops, decontamination stations, boat landing inspections, closed down water ways, limited hours to landings. These are all great ways to stop fishermen. Not so good for stopping invasive.

    Mike, I totally agree we should be looking for ways to limit the spread.
    Education and Stiffer Fines for transportation of “Invasives” would seem to be the best methods. Many I have listen to in other forums and hearings have suggested a Quarantine of Watercraft along with Docks & Lifts from Infested Lakes. As from recent reports from the Inspectors at Lake Accesses where they have actually stopped incoming watercraft with Violations, namely just Zebra Mussels attached are ALL from Watercraft that are homed based/moored &/or docked in the locally infested lakes (namely Lake Minnetonka & Prior Lake).

    That said as Zebra Mussels from their “Veliger Stage” once attached to an object Do Not & Cannot move or jump onto another object. They are permanently attached to that object for life. That said, however also means that with object such as Docks, Lifts & Watercraft that have been sitting in the infested lakes can and many do have Zebra Mussels attached, thus they can be transported to other lakes by man. It does take the object to be sitting in the infested lake for a period of time to allow the “Veliger” to attach and begin growing. With that said & that knowledge, the only true problem with boats incoming and outgoing from lake to lake is any water from the infested lake being transported from lake to lake. Thus as most fishing boats go, if you “Clean, Drain & Dry” you should be good to go when you enter the lake in the morning and leave again the same day.

    If a boat on an infested lake is sitting on a lift, clearly out of the water including the motor/lower unit, then too, they should be good to go. On the other hand, if your boat is sitting in the water for more than a say a 24 hours or more hours tied to a dock or mooring, then your watercraft is suspect to having Veliger’s attach and begin their growth into a Zebra Mussel. This also goes for transportation of weeds, which in Minnesota, I have heard of Zebra Mussels attaching to weeds, especially Eurasian Water Milfoil on lake Minnetonka. Thus, you could have a piece of weed, with a number of small “Veliger’s or Zebra Mussels” attached to your water craft &/or trailer.

    Getting to summarizing this, if you are transporting docks, lifts, watercraft and/or weeds from an infested lake, you could and should be stopped & tagged.

    Ok, I think I’ve made my point. Were wasting out time & money inspecting every boat coming and going from many public accesses. We need to focus on the Lakeshore Owners Watercraft, Docks and Lifts coming out of infested lakes.

    As far as Inspector’s at other accesses, they are more of an Inspector/Educator to see that we watercraft operators are not transporting Water & Weeds, which may be Invasive to another body of water and to teach to “Clean, Drain & Dry”.

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1447016

    Post from MCWD:

    http://minnehahacreek.org/press-release/zebra-mussels-discovered-christmas-lake

    {Text from MCWD Link}
    Zebra mussels discovered in Christmas Lake
    Planning for rapid response underway
    Tuesday, August 19, 2014

    On Saturday, August 16, MCWD staff found four zebra mussels attached to the District’s zebra mussel sampler that is suspended in the water below the public access dock. Staff found additional zebra mussels on rocks underwater and along the shoreline at the launch site. The zebra mussels were between two and six millimeters in size, indicating they were likely born this year.

    More information will be provided as it becomes available. Learn more at http://www.minnehahacreek.org/ais.

    Interesting note, The Zebra Mussels size and the assumption that they were “Born Earlier this Year”.

    Thus, in reading all of their information, the Email & News Release, they were not just transported there since July 29th, but more likely Veliger’s were transported to and deposited in Christmas Lake in late May or early June.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1447027

    For me it is a balance. I think there are things we should do to slow the spread, but it needs to be balanced with the right to access public waters, which all waters are (public), and the enjoyment of fishing.

    PikeFishman
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 364
    #1447104

    Thanks Jon Jordan, Mike W, carroll58 and mplspug for the insight. I am not nearly as knowledgeable on the topic as many and will never claim to be, heck I didn’t even know the word “veliger” existed!

    While I agree the DNR can do a better job in some areas they also seem to be doing a great job in many more than they are failing. I feel that taking the collective knowledge and passion of the fishermen/women on this site and providing ideas for change will be much more beneficial to the fishing community (at least the IDO community) as a whole than slamming the DNR and the homeowners who live on a lake.

    PS – another disclaimer, I do not live on a lake!

    Buzz
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1814
    #1447117

    We can only hope that a strong treatment with something like copper sulfate can kill a population that is still contained in one area. The problem with this is that when we used it to kills snails (swimmers itch parasite hosts), we had to repeat treatments every year. For anyone who sees this as being humorous, I suppose you also smile when someone loses a lower unit or blows a head? May your knots always break and your rods and reels fall overboard.

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #1447127

    For anyone who sees this as being humorous

    The only humor is the hype behind zeb’s; which generally comes from complete ignorance.

    Never waste a crisis when there is a world of ignorant people with instantaneous access to read and write and exploit a perceived crisis for their own personal gain…Whether they know it or not.

    Many people fooled into this crisis; peole who have read little to NOTHING regarding facts and science. Misleading headlines breed ignorant writers and ignorant writers spread LIES.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #1447129

    Worth closing the Port of Duluth to all commerce? No.

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6019
    #1447132

    It would make more sense to go back and hold the shippers accountalbe financially for the damage done. But probably too late now. Easier to blame us boaters……

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1447152

    MnDNR News Release

    http://news.dnr.state.mn.us/2014/08/20/zebra-mussels-confirmed-in-hennepin-countys-christmas-lake/#more-15161

    Zebra mussels confirmed in Hennepin County’s Christmas Lake
    (Released August 20, 2014)
    The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources has confirmed that zebra mussels were found in Christmas Lake in Shorewood, just south of Lake Minnetonka.
    photo 3 (2)On Saturday, Aug. 16, staff with the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District (MCWD) found four zebra mussels attached to the district’s zebra mussel sampler. The sampler was suspended in the water below the public access dock as part of the district’s early detection monitoring program. MCWD staff found additional zebra mussels under water on rocks and along the shoreline at the public access launch site. DNR staff visited the site and confirmed the presence of zebra mussels.
    MCWD and DNR staff examined the lake further and only found zebra mussels in the area around the public water access. Because this infestation appears to have been detected early, MCWD is working with the DNR and the city of Shorewood on a rapid response plan which may help to prevent a lake-wide infestation.
    “This infestation demonstrates the need for early detection and monitoring of our lakes and rivers,” said Keegan Lund, DNR Ecological and Water Resources Division invasive species specialist. “Local partners, such as the MCWD, play a key role in detecting and responding to new AIS infestations.”
    Zebra mussels are nonnative species that can crowd out native mussels and compete with other aquatic animals for food. They attach to boat hulls and other water-related equipment and their sharp shells can create a hazard for swimmers.
    Preventing the spread of invasive species takes personal responsibility. Before leaving any water access or shoreland, boaters must remove all aquatic vegetation, dispose of unwanted bait in the trash, drain all water by removing drain plugs and keep drain plugs out while transporting watercraft. Failure to comply with aquatic invasive species laws can result in fines.
    The DNR will designate Christmas Lake as infested and update the invasive species signage at the public access. More information about zebra mussels, how to inspect boats and other water-related equipment, and a current list of designated infested waters is available on the DNR website.

    Another article in the Chanhassen Villager newspaper online:
    http://www.chanvillager.com/news/dnr-to-designate-christmas-lake-as-infested/article_0ca7ae80-e360-5f8b-989c-7e954f31939a.html

    DNR to designate Christmas Lake as ‘infested’

    Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 2:16 pm
    The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources has confirmed that zebra mussels were found in Christmas Lake in Shorewood, just south of Lake Minnetonka, according to a DNR release.
    On Saturday, Aug. 16, staff with the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District (MCWD) found four zebra mussels attached to the district’s zebra mussel sampler. The sampler was suspended in the water below the public access dock as part of the district’s early detection monitoring program. MCWD staff found additional zebra mussels under water on rocks and along the shoreline at the public access launch site. DNR staff visited the site and confirmed the presence of zebra mussels.
    MCWD and DNR staff examined the lake further and only found zebra mussels in the area around the public water access. Because this infestation appears to have been detected early, MCWD is working with the DNR and the city of Shorewood on a rapid response plan which may help to prevent a lake-wide infestation.
    “This infestation demonstrates the need for early detection and monitoring of our lakes and rivers,” said Keegan Lund, DNR Ecological and Water Resources Division invasive species specialist. “Local partners, such as the MCWD, play a key role in detecting and responding to new AIS infestations.”
    Zebra mussels are nonnative species that can crowd out native mussels and compete with other aquatic animals for food. They attach to boat hulls and other water-related equipment and their sharp shells can create a hazard for swimmers.
    Preventing the spread of invasive species takes personal responsibility. Before leaving any water access or shoreland, boaters must remove all aquatic vegetation, dispose of unwanted bait in the trash, drain all water by removing drain plugs and keep drain plugs out while transporting watercraft. Failure to comply with aquatic invasive species laws can result in fines.
    The DNR will designate Christmas Lake as infested and update the invasive species signage at the public access. More information about zebra mussels, how to inspect boats and other water-related equipment, and a current list of designated infested waters is available on the DNR website at http://www.mndnr.gov/ais.

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    1. ChristmasLake-ZebraMussel_photo-3-2.jpg

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1447160

    . Easier to blame us boaters……

    You take 10 fisherman and 10 pleasurecraft boaters and see who gives the due amount of time at each launch it should be pretty clear who is PROBABLY to blame. Most here see it every time fishing, how clearly ignorant and stupid those pleasure people are and only care for their own enjoyment of the water with no concern for anyone else, let alone some lil vilegers.

    Really grinds my gears all the teenagers with daddy’s truck and boat showboating to their girls on board, I don’t care how good they might look in a bikini next time you make a 3′ wake 15yds away from me I’m throwing my anchor at you……grrrr. Rant over.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1447168

    It would make more sense to go back and hold the shippers accountalbe financially for the damage done. But probably too late now. Easier to blame us boaters……

    It’s not an option to blame the very people that fund your campaign.

    desperado
    Posts: 3010
    #1447200

    We can only hope that a strong treatment with something like copper sulfate can kill a population that is still contained in one area.

    how expensive must their shoreline properties be in order for that copper sulfate stuff to be potentially lethal to them?

    Tom Sawvell
    Inactive
    Posts: 9559
    #1447218

    I had an interesting chat with Mille Lacs CO last weekend and asked him how much water stayed in the jet skis and jet boats after the engine is shut down and he said he had no idea. Does anyone here work around those machines and can say how much, if any, water stays inside the pump housings after the engine stops and the rig is removed from the water?

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