I think any manufacture will have lemons and sure some makes might have more problems than others. I’m “superior” and have a 2012 Ford F150 Eco Boost and it has been one of the best vehicles I have ever owned. Now I’m sure there is someone else out there with the same truck that probably has had a ton of problems with it.
They don’t make them like they use to and I feel its almost like a lottery today if you get a lemon or not.
It will be interesting to see if the new fancy schmancy Tundra can still be as reliable, with all the new electronics. Of course the current Tundra is reliable its been unchanged for 15 years, id hope they would have all the kinks worked out after that long.
I’m currently running a 15 Sierra with no issues after 80k (knock on wood), will probably be looking in about 4 years so that should give Toyota some time to figure out the kinks. They better offer a split bench seat option though otherwise its just a grocery getter.
Just sold my 08 Yukon 6.2l. Best dam truck I’ll ever had. Bought it $12500, stuck maybe $1500 into it for things other than regular maintenance, and got 100k miles off it. Hecks yes.
I can attest. Never seen a Yukon stop so fast after missing the Red Door entrance 
They think it may be related to stop/restart feature. 2 weeks ago, my new F150 had the dash, windows and steering column go dead. Except high wipers and radio that wouldn’t shut off. They think it was a faulty connection. But it just started working, not sure that was it. Buddy and I wondered as we talked.
After thinking about this a little more something came to mind. I know you said mechanical issues but something like this is clearly electrical or even more likely a software issue. I think in general, the mechanical aspect has gotten significantly better since the 90s. Vehicles back then were considered ticking time bombs after 100k. Loan terms have gotten longer in part because vehicles are lasting longer.
I bring up the software issue because I believe we are now entering an era of a lot of uncertainty. Ford is under a lot of scrutiny about their self driving software being far inferior to Tesla at this early stage. I’ve seen some bad reviews of Fords Mach-E because many of the software interfaces aren’t working at all. I heard it explained like this. Tesla is a software company that makes cars and Ford is a car company making software. Ford and the other big automakers are at a big disadvantage when it comes to software running the non-mechanical systems in the vehicle.
Ever since Dodge put a ton of creature comforts in their trucks like the huge infotainment system a couple years ago, Ford, Chevy and Toyota have been playing catch-up to get these gadgets in their trucks. Not only that but Tesla has make its mark on the auto industry by bringing them to the mainstream in the first place.
I had a tundra before my GMC. Poor milage but dependable. Lots of Mickey Mouse problems. Gas door fell off. New one was paint to match. Rear window hinges both fell apart. Weather strips blew out of the roof seams going down the road. Maybe a Friday truck. But the deal breaker was. My 2 yellow labs had to take turns laying down in the back seat, it was so small. GMC was trouble free. But gutless pulling the boat. My wifes Honda Pilot actually pulls it better. Bought the Ford for the Eco-Boost. That I loved so far. Literally cannot tell my 185 Alumacraft with 2 outboards loaded up is behind it. With small fuel milage drop.
We haul half the stuff we own to Florida every year. Dogs have a 3’x5′ dog mattress behind the seat. With room for a cooler and travel bag. Mostly happy. First new Ford I’ve owned. With almost 50 years working on cars for a living. I believe with the mandated, shared, copied and stolen technology. Not a lot of difference in the big 3. Wish Honda or Toyota would build a true full-size truck. Extended warranty will be bought this week. Hope by the end of that. New inventory will be restored and stabilized.
Bought the Ford for the Eco-Boost.
Stevenoak,
I’m confused. 
You seem to be anti-technology, yet you bought a turbocharged motor over the naturally-aspirated 5.0 V8.
HRG
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Mr.Beads wrote:</div>
Just sold my 08 Yukon 6.2l. Best dam truck I’ll ever had. Bought it $12500, stuck maybe $1500 into it for things other than regular maintenance, and got 100k miles off it. Hecks yes.I can attest. Never seen a Yukon stop so fast after missing the Red Door entrance
Oh I didn’t miss it, I was simply admiring the purple polka dotted 50# walleye swimming beside us in the truck..
How I managed over the years to only cut the leather one time w the auger blade is the bigger mystery.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stevenoak wrote:</div>
They think it may be related to stop/restart feature. 2 weeks ago, my new F150 had the dash, windows and steering column go dead. Except high wipers and radio that wouldn’t shut off. They think it was a faulty connection. But it just started working, not sure that was it. Buddy and I wondered as we talked.After thinking about this a little more something came to mind. I know you said mechanical issues but something like this is clearly electrical or even more likely a software issue. I think in general, the mechanical aspect has gotten significantly better since the 90s. Vehicles back then were considered ticking time bombs after 100k. Loan terms have gotten longer in part because vehicles are lasting longer.
I bring up the software issue because I believe we are now entering an era of a lot of uncertainty. Ford is under a lot of scrutiny about their self driving software being far inferior to Tesla at this early stage. I’ve seen some bad reviews of Fords Mach-E because many of the software interfaces aren’t working at all. I heard it explained like this. Tesla is a software company that makes cars and Ford is a car company making software. Ford and the other big automakers are at a big disadvantage when it comes to software running the non-mechanical systems in the vehicle.
Ever since Dodge put a ton of creature comforts in their trucks like the huge infotainment system a couple years ago, Ford, Chevy and Toyota have been playing catch-up to get these gadgets in their trucks. Not only that but Tesla has make its mark on the auto industry by bringing them to the mainstream in the first place.
I have to disagree about the mechanical aspect of vehicles being more reliable than in the 90’s.
None of the big 3 domestic automakers make an engine even close in quality and reliability than they used to. The GM small blocks, Chrysler small blocks, Ford small blocks, Buick 3800, Ford 300 I6. All engines that ran forever, hence why they discontinued them. No money to be made if they don’t die.
After talking to several people. Early issues with the Eco Boost seemed to be straightened out. I may have over shopped towing capacity. After driving an under powered truck for 10 years. Technology is hard to avoid, as much as we would like to. Seem you can’t buy a fly swatter, without it being laser guided.
And when I tried to order a new 1996 Silverado for $14k. They said they were sold out.
Ford 300 I6. All engines that ran forever, hence why they discontinued them. No money to be made if they don’t die.
I had a few of the 300 I6s myself. I loved that engine. The problem is it was near impossible to get it to 150k without a rebuild or adding a full oil change worth of oil in 1500 miles.
I took care of a fleet with several 300s, in way overloaded 3/4-ton plumbers’ trucks. But they kept up on maintenance. Had several crowd 300k miles
A buddy of mine had one of those HD 300s in a pickup that had like 89k on it. The problem was we never knew if it was 89k, 189k or 289k. The odometer only had 5 digits.
My light duty 300s were replaced anytime anything major was needed. Even crate motors were relatively inexpensive.
Just to add info. 2014 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab Short Box. A “grocery getter” as many of you would call it. I use it for way more than that but live in the metro so mostly just driving around.
115k miles with no major issues. Would buy again, love the tech in it.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>grubson wrote:</div>
Ford 300 I6. All engines that ran forever, hence why they discontinued them. No money to be made if they don’t die.I had a few of the 300 I6s myself. I loved that engine. The problem is it was near impossible to get it to 150k without a rebuild or adding a full oil change worth of oil in 1500 miles.
6qts of oil in 1500 miles?? Come on man!! No way an engine could burn that much oil without fouling plugs constantly.
Now leaking oil, that’s a different story.
Oil consumption hasn’t gone away, if anything it’s worse now days.
Now leaking oil, that’s a different story.
My dad used to call my truck the Exxon Valdez.
Don’t matter what it is, it needs regular maintenance. Drive what you like, and try to stay in front of ch it before it becomes an on the highway problem.
Most people’s driving habits are awful. Jack rabbit starts and throttling up to a stop doing 70 and pounding on the brakes right about at the turn lane are huge problems that will predictably cause all kinds of premature failures. Took me years to get that through the wife’s head.
List of our last few vehicles before they got scrap yarded for way more than I thought we’d get.
Had an 04 impala we got 350k out of with original motor and tranny. Bought it with 85k for $6k. Those are known crap tranny’s. Went through 3 out of the 5 kids learning to drive it.
02 silverado 4.8L half ton. Pulled a 2025 lund with it, with a pickup camper on it. Bought it with 80k on it. Transmission Finally went out at 285k and scraped it. Even pulled a car hauler with a 4k lb kubota tractor on it a fair amount.
95 suburban 6.5L dsl. Bought it with 80k. Got it to 365k before letting it go on it’s journey to the happy harvesting ground.
Drive an 01 2500hd 6.0L currently with 185k and the wife drives an 04 vw wagon with 240k. Constantly doing something to them to keep them rolling along as fair as dumping or flushing fluids. Just keeping an eye on stuff helps and it should be a class taught in high school for all 1,400 genders. But when things start having big, out of the norm issues, that’s problematic. Nothing maintenance can do to fix poor engineering, parts or manufacturing.
As far as the stuff built in 2020 or 2021, have been told by people who deal with just about anything, stay away from those yr models of anything. Spent the week chasing parts to get all the summer stuff put away running properly and everything changed out from oil, to plugs, to filters, to belts, to fuel lines etc. All the shops/parts departments are having supply issues. Along with little to no help because of needing employees. Most I trust don’t seem to think the worst is over yet, and this could just be the new norm.
Last I checked the Tundra was only available as a gasser and those little freaking boxes. Probably a decent truck for going to the grocery store. Too bad for people who need a normal truck for work. Everything else on those Tundras seem pretty good.
Old welding boss insisted on no Bells/whistles and long box. Had two different year models over the years that met his needs. Neither ever had an issue and lasted forever and he pounded the bejeezus out of those trucks
And when I tried to order a new 1996 Silverado for $14k. They said they were sold out.[/quote]
I got the same answer when I tried to order a BRAND NEW 1998 Silverado.
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