New vehicle mechanical problems

Seems half the people I know with new vehicles have ended up at the dealer with big problems. Next door neighbor and good friend both had multiple rods bent at 2k and 10k miles in GM trucks with different engines. My buddies was 3rd in line at the dealer waiting for parts they couldn’t get. They think it may be related to stop/restart feature. 2 weeks ago, my new F150 had the dash, windows and steering column go dead. Except high wipers and radio that wouldn’t shut off. They think it was a faulty connection. But it just started working, not sure that was it. Buddy and I wondered as we talked. Where our old trucks were. His 2016 with 80k, and my 2011 with 146k. That never were in the shop for anything but maintenance. Except mine for a new rear bumper and side of the box. From a young gal talking on her cell phone. When I was stopped waiting to turn. New vehicles just seem to have too many untested or proven features. I could do without a lot of them.

Wait until the service bulletins start showing up.

Just sold my 08 Yukon 6.2l. Best dam truck I’ll ever had. Bought it $12500, stuck maybe $1500 into it for things other than regular maintenance, and got 100k miles off it. Hecks yes.

Upgraded to 15 Yukon, hope it gives me same results or at least close. Only thing it cost 2x as much!!

We just traded in a 2010 F150 with 140k trouble free miles on it for a 2021 Tundra. Not alot of bells and whistles on the Tundra, which is something I wanted. Yes, it is dated and basically unchanged compared to “new” trucks, but i’m hoping it will give me 150k trouble free miles as well. These new trucks are too “Techy” for me.

I have a 2019 Silverado Oil line blew off 32000 miles. Oil all over Cedar ave. My lights on dash board flashing shut down vehicle immediately. Well I tried to get over to shoulder but traffic was bad. Finally pulled over and my truck stop right there Motor would not turn over .. Road side assistance came 3.5 hours later to get truck .
Got a new crate motor. 12000 miles later Rod lifter failure .

Also tranny slams into 2nd gear hard when cold outside. I brought that in when I first got the truck . They reprogramed the tranny for my driving habits… REALLY…don’t buy that garbage excuse. I told them torque converters junk .
When they replace motor with new one they could not get off torque converter from old motor said it was rusted on….So my shop order a new one . Seems like it doesn’t slam into 2nd gear anymore

Now I get letters in mail for class action lawsuit against GM saying I might get a settlement . I don’t know if it some scam crap or legit ..
Can’t trade it in because nobody seems to have any trucks in stock and they are sky high for price. Plus I paid Truck Off…

buy a tundra with the 5.7L V8 and you can stop worrying. From 2007-2021 that truck was in production and was one of the most reliable modern vehicles ever made. The knock is the interiors are outdated and they get bad MPG. Those things are true but as browndog pointed out they lack all the fancy crap that causes new vehicles the issues you describe. No start stop feature, no cylinder shutdown bullcrap, no turbos. I cant imagine buying a new vehicle and having it in the shop for major repairs within 10k miles especially in this day and age with parts shortages.

I get as high as 18.5 hwy in the summer. Us Tundra owners have a saying “rather pay at the pump than pay at the shop”.

The latest and greatest doesn’t always live up to its name.

I use trucks to tow, plow, haul, recreate, etc. If I was just using one as a fancy grocery getter to drive around the suburbs I’d have fewer fears about going with the “techy” latest model, but that’s not the case.

When truck shopping I will never buy the first year model with a major body change or redesign. My last truck purchase I actually went down a trim level to the XLT to avoid a giant touch screen. It’s just one more thing I don’t want to replace or need to deal with down the road.

The tires have gone bad on my 2015 F150 now and I only have 136K miles. I even had to replace the brakes. So frustrating.

2017 ram no issues besides a manifold gasket. I’m almost to 90k. I think the new fancy trucks are kind of a joke. I like older and simple. I would hate for my dash or touch screens to go out. They make vehicles so complicated.
Why would you want a vehicle to shut down at a stop light. Do you need to save 4 cents on gas. But tons of wear on starter and electronics

My brother bought a new Acadia, had a ton of electrical issues and after 3 trips into the dealership, they replaced it with a new one…that had the same electrical issues, they were able to give that back under the lemon laws and bought something else. We have a 2010 Buick Enclave that just hit 100k and has had a ton of issues, and I can’t wait to get rid of it. I’ll never buy a Government Motors (GM) vehicle again.

I had a 2011 Ram that I put 160k miles on and never had an issue, traded that in on a 2017 Ram that I have 60k on and still no issues (knock on wood). My cousin works at the Ram dealership and was telling me how many more computers the 17 has, and would be the reason to buy an extended warranty. Agree with most of you, I could do without almost all the electronics.

crappie55369 wrote:

buy a tundra with the 5.7L V8 and you can stop worrying. From 2007-2021 that truck was in production and was one of the most reliable modern vehicles ever made. The knock is the interiors are outdated and they get bad MPG. Those things are true but as browndog pointed out they lack all the fancy crap that causes new vehicles the issues you describe. No start stop feature, no cylinder shutdown bullcrap, no turbos. I cant imagine buying a new vehicle and having it in the shop for major repairs within 10k miles especially in this day and age with parts shortages.

I get as high as 18.5 hwy in the summer. Us Tundra owners have a saying “rather pay at the pump than pay at the shop”.

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Bought a 2013 tundra 5.7 in 2015 , put gas in and change oil regularly, not a single issue yet , not even a brake job. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned.

American made cars and trucks are years behind foreign manufactures in quality and reliability.

I see these complaints daily. All I can say is that they don’t make them like they used to.
GM, Ford, Ram, brand doesn’t matter, they’re all made as cheap as possible. Quality is no longer a concern, as long as it makes it through the warranty period.
Toyota is the only brand still building decent trucks in my opinion.

biggill wrote:

The tires have gone bad on my 2015 F150 now and I only have 136K miles. I even had to replace the brakes. So frustrating.

HUH?

While I agree that all the luxury add on features suck to fix we kinda get use to having them real quick. I think once you hit the 100,000 mile mark it all comes down to maintenance or lack there-of. All the mechanics here can tell the same horror stories of what they see as IowaBoy tells us. As a rule it’s add gas turn the key, if it doesn’t start take it in and get it fixed and then complain about the company that made it. Same as fishing, the fresh line, sharp hooks, lively bait crowd always seem to be catching something.

Deuces wrote:

Just sold my 08 Yukon 6.2l. Best dam truck I’ll ever had. Bought it $12500, stuck maybe $1500 into it for things other than regular maintenance, and got 100k miles off it. Hecks yes.

Upgraded to 15 Yukon, hope it gives me same results or at least close. Only thing it cost 2x as much!!

Sold my 2010 Silverado 6.2L at 254k miles, purchased at 120k. Never put a penny into major repairs. The oddball $20 sensor here or there. I regret getting rid of that platform every day that I drive.

BigWerm wrote:

My brother bought a new Acadia, had a ton of electrical issues and after 3 trips into the dealership, they replaced it with a new one…that had the same electrical issues, they were able to give that back under the lemon laws and bought something else. We have a 2010 Buick Enclave that just hit 100k and has had a ton of issues, and I can’t wait to get rid of it. I’ll never buy a Government Motors (GM) vehicle again.

All of the Acadia, Traverse, Enclave are junk they have timing chain issues and junk transmissions. Not to mention power steering issues. No one should own one. They keep claiming there getting better but I’m not sure I buy that.

John Rasmussen wrote:

Not to mention power steering issues.

Yeah that’s what we are dealing with now (among other things), Government Motors had a “special coverage” for it, which is different than a recall I guess, and replaced this twice on our vehicle, but we are outside the 10 year window now of it’s born on date (not last date of replacement) and they won’t do it again.

crappie55369 wrote:

buy a tundra with the 5.7L V8 and you can stop worrying.

Last I checked the Tundra was only available as a gasser and those little freaking boxes. Probably a decent truck for going to the grocery store. Too bad for people who need a normal truck for work. Everything else on those Tundras seem pretty good.

I have exceeded 1/2 million miles each on my two Duramax , and my dad did the same with his. Maintenance and a wheel bearing and a few minor things.

I’m almost 1/4 mil miles on my dodge 3500. Maintenance, a battery, tires and an accuator for the turbo.

John Rasmussen wrote:

All of the Acadia, Traverse, Enclave are junk they have timing chain issues and junk transmissions. Not to mention power steering issues. No one should own one. They keep claiming there getting better but I’m not sure I buy that.

I have a 2019 Traverse getting an oil cahnge right now.
31k miles hasnt had one single issue. The majority of the timing chain issues are because people think you get 15k from an oil change. Almost everyone we fix has very little or no oil on the dipstick. If your never gonna check it get it changed regularly.

Randy Wieland wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
buy a tundra with the 5.7L V8 and you can stop worrying.

Last I checked the Tundra was only available as a gasser and those little freaking boxes. Probably a decent truck for going to the grocery store. Too bad for people who need a normal truck for work. Everything else on those Tundras seem pretty good.

I have exceeded 1/2 million miles each on my two Duramax , and my dad did the same with his. Maintenance and a wheel bearing and a few minor things.

I’m almost 1/4 mil miles on my dodge 3500. Maintenance, a battery, tires and an accuator for the turbo.

Yes they only have the gasser and up to a 6.5′ box on their extended cab models, but the longevity is definitely proven. I do believe they are one of the best gas motors out there for the average joe. Thirsty, yes, but you may very well get 2-300k out of them.

No doubt if I needed the truck for work I would have gotten a 3/4 or 1 ton, as they are just built much better and will generally last much much longer. However for a 1/2 ton pickup, I dont think you can go wrong with a Tundra.

Eelpoutguy wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Matt Wodziak wrote:</div>
The tires have gone bad on my 2015 F150 now and I only have 136K miles. I even had to replace the brakes. So frustrating.

HUH?

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Randy Wieland wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
buy a tundra with the 5.7L V8 and you can stop worrying.

Last I checked the Tundra was only available as a gasser and those little freaking boxes. Probably a decent truck for going to the grocery store. Too bad for people who need a normal truck for work. Everything else on those Tundras seem pretty good.

I have exceeded 1/2 million miles each on my two Duramax , and my dad did the same with his. Maintenance and a wheel bearing and a few minor things.

I’m almost 1/4 mil miles on my dodge 3500. Maintenance, a battery, tires and an accuator for the turbo.

not quite. its true they are only available as a gasoline engine and in a half ton but they offer a 6.5 box as well as the option to get an extended cab truck with an 8′ box

JEREMY wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>John Rasmussen wrote:</div>
All of the Acadia, Traverse, Enclave are junk they have timing chain issues and junk transmissions. Not to mention power steering issues. No one should own one. They keep claiming there getting better but I’m not sure I buy that.

I have a 2019 Traverse getting an oil cahnge right now.
31k miles hasnt had one single issue. The majority of the timing chain issues are because people think you get 15k from an oil change. Almost everyone we fix has very little or no oil on the dipstick. If your never gonna check it get it changed regularly.

Agreed on the oil change interval. I work at an independent repair shop and we see so many issues from lack of oil or sludge issues not just a GM problem. Just change your oil people like your Grandpa told you to.

Tundra guy here as well. Best damn truck I’ve owned (2012). I’ll drive it into the ground before buying another. oh-I did lose floor heat which makes those brutal -30 days kinda cold on the feet.

The quality of all kinds of things has suffered due to hyper-active demand brought on by the pandemic. Manufacturers are pumping out products with short-staffed assembly lines and marginally trained new workers. Not a recipe for success.

Vehicle quality, RV/camper quality, electronics quality, it’s all in the sh!tter. If you want to see some quality so bad it’s almost funny, look at some RV group new owner posts on Facebook. Absolutely awful.

IMO you’d have to be crazy to trade off a good condition truck that runs well for something new and of ugh-known quality built in 2021 or 2022.

Normally, I would be looking to replace my current 2013 Acadia next year, but no freaking way am touching anything made in 2021 or 2022. Acadia has 156k and I’ve had zero issues. Here’s hoping she’s good for 200k.

Eelpoutguy wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Matt Wodziak wrote:</div>
The tires have gone bad on my 2015 F150 now and I only have 136K miles. I even had to replace the brakes. So frustrating.

HUH?

He drives ecoboost he is superior. That’s what I’m sure he meant to type

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

The quality of all kinds of things has suffered due to hyper-active demand brought on by the pandemic. Manufacturers are pumping out products with short-staffed assembly lines and marginally trained new workers. Not a recipe for success.

Vehicle quality, RV/camper quality, electronics quality, it’s all in the sh!tter. If you want to see some quality so bad it’s almost funny, look at some RV group new owner posts on Facebook. Absolutely awful.

IMO you’d have to be crazy to trade off a good condition truck that runs well for something new and of ugh-known quality built in 2021 or 2022.

Normally, I would be looking to replace my current 2013 Acadia next year, but no freaking way am touching anything made in 2021 or 2022. Acadia has 156k and I’ve had zero issues. Here’s hoping she’s good for 200k.

Nailed it! the old saying “don’t leave fun to have fun,” could work with vehicles, don’t get rid of a great truck to buy a new truck.

And yes, those that are buying RV’s right now are in a world of sh!t.

crappie55369 wrote:

as well as the option to get an extended cab truck with an 8′ box

I’ve heard the rumor lol I think they are like unicorns. Hear about them, but never see them. We looked at getting a gas truck as a “nice” truck for misc use and short distance vacations. Tundra was the only gasser I would consider but was impossible to get 8’box. For me, anything shorter is worthless

Can confirm, 5.7L V8 Tundra is a tank. Kind of funny listening to the guys argue Chevy vs. Ford. Tough to beat Toyota longevity.