New Minnesota DWI law goes into effect Aug. 1 2018

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1788561

    Little Alan’s Law provides consistent application of DWI laws
    A new law that goes into effect Aug. 1 means people convicted of driving while intoxicated – regardless of the vehicle they’re driving – will lose their driver’s license and be prohibited from operating motor vehicles, including all-terrain vehicles, motorboats and snowmobiles. The state Legislature passed the law following the death of 8-year-old Alan Geisenkoetter Jr., who died in January after being struck by a snowmobile driven by a man whose driver’s license was revoked after multiple DWI offenses.

    Before the law change, people convicted of DWI in a highway-licensed vehicle still could legally operate ATVs, motorboats and snowmobiles. The changes apply to violations that occur on or after Aug. 1.

    “We have zero tolerance for people who endanger themselves and other people by operating a motor vehicle or recreational vehicle while they’re intoxicated,” said Col. Rodmen Smith, director of the Minnesota DNR Enforcement Division. “This new law should send the message that drinking and driving – no matter what the vehicle – isn’t acceptable and the consequences are severe.”

    As an example, a person convicted of DWI in a motorboat, or who refuses testing for a motorboat DWI, would have their driver’s license suspended and be prohibited from operating ATVs, motorboats and snowmobiles for one year. Additionally, first-time DWI offenders operating off-road recreational vehicles or motorboats also will be subject to chemical use assessments, conditional release and plate impoundment – the same as a DWI in a highway-licensed vehicle.

    The Minnesota DNR and other law enforcement agencies in the state, along with ATV and snowmobile groups, supported the law change, which passed the Legislature with bipartisan support and was signed into law in May by Gov. Mark Dayton.

    bigcrappie
    Blaine
    Posts: 4376
    #1788565

    Sad it took what happened to get this law. Should have been a law a long time ago.

    Tuma
    Inactive
    Farmington, MN
    Posts: 1403
    #1788583

    Sad it took what happened to get this law. Should have been a law a long time ago.

    x2

    munchy
    NULL
    Posts: 4951
    #1788589

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>bigcrappie wrote:</div>
    Sad it took what happened to get this law. Should have been a law a long time ago.

    x2

    X3

    But such is government in America, it typically takes a tragedy such as this to get action taken. Hopefully this little guys life can live on in this law.

    Outdraft
    Western Wi.
    Posts: 1149
    #1788772

    I think its bs but the world shes a changin

    Deleted
    Posts: 959
    #1788783

    I see it changing nothing. Feel-good legislation.

    Those who drink and operate…..will continue to do so.

    Remember that laws don’t stop crimes, only affects punishment after the fact. If laws did stop crime, we wouldn’t have any crime at all.

    FishBlood&RiverMud
    Prescott
    Posts: 6687
    #1788786

    “We have zero tolerance for people who endanger themselves and other people by operating a motor vehicle or recreational vehicle while they’re intoxicated,”

    “This new law should send the message that drinking and driving – no matter what the vehicle – isn’t acceptable and the consequences are severe.”

    So, wasn’t there already a law making it illegal to operate any of those motor vehicles drunk.

    This will make a difference
    jester

    Evan Pheneger
    Hastings, MN
    Posts: 838
    #1788794

    Does it work the other way around? Makes me wonder if you get a BUI or a DUI on a ATV do they then revoke/suspend your drivers license? Or has that always been the case?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1788795

    Lose the privilege to drive a car to work because they are drunk while snowmobiling? This would make me think twice about finishing that bottle of Ice Hole while on the trail.

    I believe it will make an impact to some degree.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1788796

    means people convicted of driving while intoxicated – regardless of the vehicle they’re driving – will lose their driver’s license and be prohibited from operating motor vehicles, including all-terrain vehicles, motorboats and snowmobiles.

    Exactly Evan.

    Tom Sawvell
    Inactive
    Posts: 9559
    #1788800

    I see it changing nothing. Feel-good legislation.

    Those who drink and operate…..will continue to do so.

    Remember that laws don’t stop crimes, only affects punishment after the fact. If laws did stop crime, we wouldn’t have any crime at all.

    This was the case with the idiot on the snowmobile that killed the kid. He had a shoebox full of DWI’s on his record and was still out there enjoying life. At least maybe now the cross-over between modes of transportation erases an argument in court.

    pool2fool
    Inactive
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 1709
    #1788817

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    dang it dude, it’s just a ***** scissor-lift, man!

    Charles
    Posts: 1980
    #1788826

    Yeah its a feel good law that is worthless I hate to say it. People will continue to break the law there is no humane to stop to people driving without a license.

    Tuma
    Inactive
    Farmington, MN
    Posts: 1403
    #1788836

    I am not drink this case of beer, oh that beer that was from before. That’s so great rotflol

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1788843

    Not sure if you caught it but he just left the liquor store. toast

    philtickelson
    Inactive
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 1678
    #1788873

    Love that video, unfortunately I think it’s fake as there’s another video of Steve stealing a police cruiser which definitely seems fake :(.

    I’ve always thought it was weird how much leeway there is to drink and drive a boat/ATV/Snowmobile. I don’t know if whether or not this stops all people from doing these things is relevant either. Can’t you say the same thing about Drinking while driving a car, murder, etc? The harsh punishments are supposed to help deter these things from happening, but no one would ever try to tell you it will stop them from happening. Maybe it prevents a small proportion of these events from happening in the future, seems like a net positive overall, at worst it doesn’t help?

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3970
    #1788884

    Little Alan’s Law provides consistent application of DWI laws
    A new law that goes into effect Aug. 1 means people convicted of driving while intoxicated – regardless of the vehicle they’re driving – will lose their driver’s license and be prohibited from operating motor vehicles, including all-terrain vehicles, motorboats and snowmobiles. The state Legislature passed the law following the death of 8-year-old Alan Geisenkoetter Jr., who died in January after being struck by a snowmobile driven by a man whose driver’s license was revoked after multiple DWI offenses.

    Before the law change, people convicted of DWI in a highway-licensed vehicle still could legally operate ATVs, motorboats and snowmobiles. The changes apply to violations that occur on or after Aug. 1.

    “We have zero tolerance for people who endanger themselves and other people by operating a motor vehicle or recreational vehicle while they’re intoxicated,” said Col. Rodmen Smith, director of the Minnesota DNR Enforcement Division. “This new law should send the message that drinking and driving – no matter what the vehicle – isn’t acceptable and the consequences are severe.”

    As an example, a person convicted of DWI in a motorboat, or who refuses testing for a motorboat DWI, would have their driver’s license suspended and be prohibited from operating ATVs, motorboats and snowmobiles for one year. Additionally, first-time DWI offenders operating off-road recreational vehicles or motorboats also will be subject to chemical use assessments, conditional release and plate impoundment – the same as a DWI in a highway-licensed vehicle.

    The Minnesota DNR and other law enforcement agencies in the state, along with ATV and snowmobile groups, supported the law change, which passed the Legislature with bipartisan support and was signed into law in May by Gov. Mark Dayton.

    I agree this is the way the law should be BUT the idiots with multiple DUI’s will still drive, boat, snowmobile, and atv. It is like convicting a fish/game poacher. They still go hunting and fishing.

    tegg
    Hudson, Wi/Aitkin Co
    Posts: 1450
    #1788886

    Yeah its a feel good law that is worthless I hate to say it. People will continue to break the law there is no humane to stop to people driving without a license.

    You can look at it this way: Obviously, laws don’t prevent all crimes. Having laws against theft or murder doesn’t stop those crimes either. Having laws on the books is a societal means to define what is acceptable and provides a legal means to prosecute the people that are caught breaking them. I remember a high speed boating accident on the St. Croix about 20 years ago that involved 2 boats and 5 individuals. All 5 people were grossly over the drinking limit and all 5 people died in the accident. Whether having a harsher OWI law on the books would have prevented this accident is hard to say. It may however cause some people to give pause knowing they could lose their drivers license.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #1788891

    July 3rd is a very bad day on the St Croix. The following year there was another alcohol related accident that took the lives of two more.

    philtickelson
    Inactive
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 1678
    #1788970

    Yeah its a feel good law that is worthless I hate to say it. People will continue to break the law there is no humane to stop to people driving without a license.

    Another way to spin this. Fishing possession limits are feel good ‘laws’ as people will continue to knowingly break them. Thus, Fishing possession limits are worthless?

    I think there’s a lot of room between [ Worthless ] ————– [ 100% effective ]. If this moves the needle in the ‘more effective’ direction I’d call it worthwhile.

    ClownColor
    Inactive
    The Back 40
    Posts: 1955
    #1788994

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Charles wrote:</div>
    Yeah its a feel good law that is worthless I hate to say it. People will continue to break the law there is no humane to stop to people driving without a license.

    Another way to spin this. Fishing possession limits are feel good ‘laws’ as people will continue to knowingly break them. Thus, Fishing possession limits are worthless?

    No….not even close. I think you are missing the point. It’s already illegal to drive drunk. Laws are good. Laws needed about laws are worthless. Taking your example, most people follow the possession limits. That’s a good law. Those who DON’T, probably don’t follow hunting laws as well. Making another law, saying one law is illegal does nothing…make the damn penalty harsher! Not another stupid law which won’t be followed.

    Side story…when I was in college, you needed a parking pass to park on campus and it was fairly expensive. However, parking tickets were very cheap and won’t guaranteed. I spent about a 1/4 less per year paying parking tickets them my roommates did in parking fees. And no, they don’t go on your record for campus parking police if wondering. The moral is, make the penalty fit the crime or you’ll have people taking advantage. I’m all for rehabilitation and believe in second chances as that’s part of this great country…but any second or third violation and you arse should be in jail for quit a while! This boner had THREE! Yeah, make another law saying it’s illegsl…that’ll work LOL.

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