My Livescope “Hole Hopper” Shuttle

  • JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17852
    #2192679

    I finally finished my Livescope Hole Hopper shuttle setup. Goal was to get as light as possible.

    Its an 10” Ultra 106sv screen paired with a LVS12 Livescope transducer. Yes, its a 30 degree single beam, BUT with the 106sv you can run BOTH Side & Down Imaging views at the same time split screened!! and NO GLS10 black box to lug around… Battery life with the super light Norsk 15ah is between 5-8 hour’s depending on backlight level. Its surprisingly well balanced and should get close to perfect after I add a cord clete on the back.

    The BEST thing about it is that EVERYTHING together only weighs 11.8 lbs!! (My lightest weight possible LVS34 bundle weighs 24.8 lbs) It works great for panfish typically under the hole….

    When I want to use my LVS34 Livescope setup, I simply swap the 106 screen between cradles…

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    wildfan
    Ogilvie Minnesota
    Posts: 598
    #2192685

    Nice setup!

    bullcans
    Northfield MN
    Posts: 2004
    #2192708

    Better get a patent on it.
    Very nice and clean setup waytogo

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17852
    #2192721

    Thx, all the parts were purchased from retailers, but it was a puzzle to find the proper functional but lightweight pieces… This setup has been an idea of mine for a few years….

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17852
    #2199178

    Finally finished everything up, I like how it turned out. Sample piece of Timbertech decking (waterproof) cutdown for a crossbeam that the transducer cord wraps up on with a velcro cord holder, I thought of using a dock clete to wrap the cord, but it wouldn’t get it all wound up, I also cut the powercord down to only be 10” long so no slack to deal with.

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    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17852
    #2236855

    Here’s what the split screen LVS-12 Forward & Down views simultaneously looks like on the simulator. I’ll test it for real once we get ice…

    Forward view doesn’t look great on the simulator, but down view looks like it will be AWESOME for panfish…

    The best part is the whole thing weighs less than 12 lbs with a 10” screen!

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    3Rivers
    Posts: 1088
    #2236894

    Don’t you still need a pole or leveling system for the that 12?

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17852
    #2236896

    Don’t you still need a pole or leveling system for the that 12?

    yep, I use the same Summit pole my LVS34 uses…

    ekruger01
    Posts: 571
    #2236898

    Man that looks so much nicer when the black box is not involved.

    3Rivers
    Posts: 1088
    #2236923

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>3Rivers wrote:</div>
    Don’t you still need a pole or leveling system for the that 12?

    yep, I use the same Summit pole my LVS34 uses…

    yeah the pole for me is what really makes these livescope packages bulky and cumbersome, not just the weight. Not to mention another $100 for a spare pole on the second unit. I think a shuttle setup like that with just a GT10HN would make a great hole hopper too. Then you can eliminate both the pole and the black box (albeit no panoptix).

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17852
    #2236948

    I have a separate short Summit pole I only use for ice fishing, so it folds up to basically nothing, but you could absolutely rig up a simple type of transducer arm and short pvc pipe that would work, now you got my mind thinking… I still think the short Summit pole is ultimately the easiest solution though…

    Here’s the zero degree LVS12 removeable mount I made, simple to swap out the LVS12/LVS34 using the same pole:

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    dhpricco
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 613
    #2236954

    Kind of a separate note, but with my LVS32 I usually just keep it in forward mode when I am ice fishing unless I setup on some fish and camp out on them. With forward you get a bit of degrees of view backwards. This guy on youtube has some very good livescope content for those trying to learn more.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17852
    #2236958

    Kind of a separate note, but with my LVS32 I usually just keep it in forward mode when I am ice fishing unless I setup on some fish and camp out on them. With forward you get a bit of degrees of view backwards. This guy on youtube has some very good livescope content for those trying to learn more.

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    I only use Down View when fishing in a hole, I like the full viewing area right & left of the hole so I can see when fish are coming in from far out…

    3Rivers
    Posts: 1088
    #2236983

    I only use Down View when fishing in a hole, I like the full viewing area right & left of the hole so I can see when fish are coming in from far out…
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    What I also like about downview is that you get a better representation of the fish in your immediate area (and what shape and size they are) rather than seeing some random vertical bars out off in the distance.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17852
    #2237010

    I only use Down View when fishing in a hole, I like the full viewing area right & left of the hole so I can see when fish are coming in from far out…

    What I also like about downview is that you get a better representation of the fish in your immediate area (and what shape and size they are) rather than seeing some random vertical bars out off in the distance.
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    yep and if you use gridlines (i don’t) you can get a dang close idea of the size of the fish…

    Henpecked
    Posts: 231
    #2237322

    Nice clean setup. I like it much better than mine. I used an Apache case for the same setup with the LVS12. I’ve never seen those L brackets before. Can enlighten me?

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    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17852
    #2243153

    Since upgrading my LVS34 Garmin Bag & Shuttle to the Summit LG Bag & HD Shuttle, I had my original Garmin XL Bag & Shuttle just collecting dust so I wanted to see what it would look like (and more importantly weigh) if I transferred my LVS12 Hole Hopper setup to the Garmin Bag and Shuttle (I like the idea of it being protected inside a bag and out of the elements)

    So after swapping the shuttles around I think i’m staying with this new setup moving forward. The Garmin Bag and Shuttle LVS 12 hole hopper weighs a measly 14.8 lbs and its super easy to carry around and is balanced perfectly (I used the very far back mounting holes)

    So now I simply swap the 106sv screen between the two shuttles depending on if I want the full LVS34 Livescope experience or want the lighter LVS12 Livescope hole hopper setup. For those interested, the Garmin XL Bag and Shuttle weighs about 4.8 lbs

    LVS34 106sv Summit Shuttle Weight = 27.6 lbs
    LVS12 106sv Garmin Shuttle Weight = 14.8 lbs

    Those listed weights are fully functional bundles (Bag, Shuttle, Screen, Battery, minimalist wiring and Transducer with neoprene covers) but minus the White Garmin screen cover as I feel its optional to use inside the bag. I’m using the very lightest (yet usable) parts for my shuttles, so the short network cable, the combo wiring harness, the lightest battery options Norsk 15ah & Amped Outdoors 32ah (that still provide the preferred 10″ screen runtimes)

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    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17852
    #2243164

    Not to mention another $100 for a spare pole on the second unit

    You only need 1 Summit Pole system, you will just need different LVS12 & LVS34 transducer mount pieces that slide on/off with a cotter pin, I made a LVS12 mount for about $2 in parts…

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    Youbetcha
    Anoka County
    Posts: 2851
    #2243188

    Those are pretty slick. It is kind of crazy how these bundles are weighing more than augers now. I have seen people making sleds just for their livescope.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17852
    #2243194

    Those are pretty slick. It is kind of crazy how these bundles are weighing more than augers now. I have seen people making sleds just for their livescope.

    It depends on what you need…You can probably put together a LVS32 and EchoMap 73UHD bundle that weighs around 18 lbs…

    for a mobile Livescope, some things you can’t get around, the smallest supported screen and gimbal bracket weighs 3+ lbs, the GLS10 weighs about 5 lbs, the Livescope transducer & cord weighs about 3.5 pounds and the lightest 10AH lithium battery weighs about 2 lbs and all the wiring needed is probably close to another pound…so that’s close to 14 lbs right there and not including some sort of shuttle and/or bag to contain it all in…

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