Wow bear you were on the ice on the 8th with your kids right after the covid ? Must have been mild or recovery pretty quick.
We were on the ice with covid. Just like last time my son had it we camped on the river for a week. It wasn’t bad at all. For us. I didn’t stop moving besides at night when my cold sweats would hit.
Now half the country thinks that freedom means not wearing a mask or taking a vaccine to protect their neighbors, family, the sick & elderly, etc. It’s pathetic. I’m ashamed that my children and grandchildren will someday have to read about how a bunch of manchilds and the misinformed were responsible for the worst loss of American lives in the history of this once fine country.
I understand that the shot may save your life.
If a vaccinated person can transmit covid, how is being vaccinated protecting neighbors, family, the sick and elderly?
Posting a link to Reddit isn’t really making your case more solid.
Reddit is a cesspool – its mostly for attacking and mocking people who have different opinions and lifestyles than you and feeding off each others misery. Its a cancer just like most social media.
I understand that the shot may save your life.
If a vaccinated person can transmit covid, how is being vaccinated protecting neighbors, family, the sick and elderly?
This is my view too. The data indicates that someone who is unvaccinated is about 17 times more likely to end up in a hospital and about 20 times more likely to die. But if you choose to still avoid it, fine, that is your own decision. The only entity that should be able to mandate it is your employer, public school, military, etc. If you still want to avoid, get another job. Everyone is hiring and you can find someone that will hire you in this labor market. The federal government mandating it for the general public is an over reach of authority and the courts will decide that fate.
My issue is concern for the overwhelmed health care system. We’ve tried to keep this from happening for two years now and failed over and over. We have failed for many reasons. Unvaccinated sick people who represent the majority of people there is just one of them. Our behavior is another. Lack of adequate, timely testing is a problem. People not taking it seriously because they only had a mild case and think its not really an issue, even though we have over a million new infections daily and the highest amount of people hospitalized at any point is real.
People have every day accidents. They get in car crashes, they have heart attacks, they fall out of deer stands, etc. Those people are fu**ed because there is no room. Forget about having an elective surgery. Preventative health is over rated anyways isn’t it.
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Wow bear you were on the ice on the 8th with your kids right after the covid ? Must have been mild or recovery pretty quick.We were on the ice with covid. Just like last time my son had it we camped on the river for a week. It wasn’t bad at all. For us. I didn’t stop moving besides at night when my cold sweats would hit.
Seems like a leading question… But the recent strain has been super mild for a lot of people. My experience is that outside activity, water, and extra sleep is the best cure for a typical viral infection.
Over Christmas my wife had a positive at home test in the morning, then we xc skied 10 miles together, and then she had a positive real test that afternoon. The next day I had a negative at home test in the morning, but a positive real test in the afternoon. We spent that day pulling our kids around on snowshoes.
well said @gimruis. i feel like we need to start erecting new hospitals that are just for dealing with covid. We know this wont be going away anytime soon. Of course the problem there is who where will the staff come from?
Isn’t that what China did back in 2019 – built 1500 room hospitals in like 2 weeks. First time I remember hearing about CV was at a construction storm-water conference where a speaker shared this photo and said he is the reason we can’t do that here.
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I think NYC turned a massive events center into a temporary medical facility when this all first started here. Generally they were not specifically used to treat covid patients but rather other patients with every day health issues. Turning a building like an events center into an ICU really isn’t feasible because of all the needed medical equipment.
Enough staff is no doubt a major problem in health care right now. Too many people are sick at the same time. Many states have called in national guard or dept of defense to help.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status
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This is my view too. The data indicates that someone who is unvaccinated is about 17 times more likely to end up in a hospital and about 20 times more likely to die.
Here’s the most recent data for MN from MPR. I attached the chart referring to hospitalizations, deaths and cases. https://www.mprnews.org/story/2022/01/10/covid19-mn-deadliest-stretch-yet-for-those-under-65
Anecdotally though, it really seems that everyone is getting infected equally right now.
Although, in the past week, my daughter has been a close contact to multiple kids on the bus on 3 different days going back to 1/3. My son’s in-home daycare person tested positive on saturday and two of the other kids in the daycare have as well. A close coworker of mine tested positive on sunday. My wife was at work all day friday meeting with someone who tested positive this weekend as well. She is now in portland and her employer didn’t require her to quarantine because she is fully vaxxed and boosted as am I and my daughter is fully vaxxed. We’ve all been testing since the weekend and 0 positive tests and 0 symptoms.
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Whats the definition of “fully vaccinated”? First shot and 47 boosters? THe answer to that would greatly dictate the charts above.
I wanted to add that no one in our house has ever tested positive on an antigen or PCR test. My daughter was tested a few months back when she had a slight fever and the rapid test came back negative but the antibody test came back positive for a prior infection. Thought that was interesting.
I wanted to add that no one in our house has ever tested positive on an antigen or PCR test. My daughter was tested a few months back when she had a slight fever and the rapid test came back negative but the antibody test came back positive for a prior infection. Thought that was interesting.
With your PhD in everything you received from the u of bearcat, you should have known that and fully understood it. 
It in fact is not that interesting
What is interesting is that you guys very seldomly ever post or help on a post with something out doors related.
You are very quiet until you have a covid graph to post or new website to quote. Why. It’s the same 8 people going in endless circles over and over and over.
Doesn’t it get old. Why not go help the guy out with some info on his heater related questions. Why does it have to be stupid covid graphs. If they want a shot, they will get it. If not them they won’t. Your graphs don’t help any one. Our opinions are already formed.
The op was stating his experience with it. And so were we, he in no which way asked for Matt’s latest covid graphs.
Doesn’t it get old. Why not go help the guy out with some info on his heater related questions. Why does it have to be stupid covid graphs. If they want a shot, they will get it. If not them they won’t. Your graphs don’t help any one. Our opinions are already formed.
OMG!! <<Sorry
That is the best post I’ve seen about Covid since early 2020!!
I wanted to add that no one in our house has ever tested positive on an antigen or PCR test. My daughter was tested a few months back when she had a slight fever and the rapid test came back negative but the antibody test came back positive for a prior infection. Thought that was interesting.
When will your delusion end and at what point does common sense come into play? I am not trying to be mean just curious? Testing does not cure covid or hinder its spread. Maybe in a perfect world it could work. Masking does not work, gene therapies labeled as vaccines do not work to stop the spread. We keep going round and round in the same circle and half of society keeps believing what the media tells them. My mind just cannot understand. Can you please help me better understand? How is testing going to help or is it more for self gratification?
^ Rhetorical questions Matt.
Thanks for the post Labdaddy. Hope your feeling better!
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