Musky Are Eating Our Perch!

Tom Anastasi wrote:

Is that why they taste so good??

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The right two columns do not tell me anything as I do not know how they came up with those numbers. I know how they came up with the other numbers so that is why I was looking at those. Sorry have not read the article yet but I will.

Drizzy Musky wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>1hl&sinker wrote:</div>
I think it’s rather short sided.

Dang, I was hoping to be on the long side

I think one can infer your agenda, casting doubt on yet another study that indicates musky don’t have a negative impact on walleye population. Still waiting to see “these studies” that have been done long before.

I think your beyond reasonable conversation as your so entrenched with your beliefs. Not to be a dig at you we just look at gathering info differently.
How’s that for Mn passive aggressive.

1hl&sinker wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Drizzy Musky wrote:</div>

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>1hl&sinker wrote:</div>
I think it’s rather short sided.

Dang, I was hoping to be on the long side

I think one can infer your agenda, casting doubt on yet another study that indicates musky don’t have a negative impact on walleye population. Still waiting to see “these studies” that have been done long before.

I think your beyond reasonable conversation as your so entrenched with your beliefs. Not to be a dig at you we just look at gathering info differently.
How’s that for Mn passive aggressive.

You wouldn’t be putting this much energy into replying to comments on this topic if you weren’t anti musky…me reading between the lines.

1hl&sinker wrote:

@joe What is my agenda? Hope you can tell me so I know what I should think.

Its quite obvious based on every one of your responses and discounting other’s replies to your request for other studies and dismissing them as fitting their “motives”. Just scroll along and skip this topic until you have actually read what has been provided already.

Ripjiggen wrote:

Not anti Muskie just asking the question because I can not see the article. It states 65 percent of Muskie diet was perch. It then states there is no overlap between walleye diet and Muskie diet?
What are they saying the walleye eat then?

To re-state, perch was 65% of individual diet items – most of which are very small – making up only 8% of the total diet mass consumed. Most of the diet mass was made up of fewer but larger items such as suckers. (Ie., 1 big sucker vs 40 bits of perch)

And yes of course walleye eat perch, and other things too. The results (admittedly early results, with more pending) suggest there is LOW overlap in diet, not that there is no overlap. And it concludes that this low amount of overlap means there is little competition between them, meaning that both walleyes and muskies are able to get their food needs met when present in the same water.

So, muskies don’t eat walleyes very much at all, and their presence in the same lake doesn’t impact the walleyes ability to feed. They are compatible species in the same waters.

It doesn’t matter if its Muskies, Bass, Netting, Clearer water, ect. far to many ( Note – did not say all ) Die hard Walleye fishermen are always looking to point a finger someplace for the decline of their beloved fish. More often than not the only place they need to look for a cause is in their own mirror. Often they set out each day with their goal being to catch and harvest a full limit for each person in their boat. I have no doubt if Bass and Muskie fishermen also had this same goal that those fish population would be declining fast as well. I’m not saying its not Ok to harvest fish to eat. I myself harvest fish of all species each year ( Except Muskie – Never keep one of them ) Just saying that over harvest by fishermen probably is one if not the biggest factor in the decline of walleye populations in a lot of lakes.

fishthumper wrote:

Die hard Walleye fishermen are always looking to point a finger someplace for the decline of their beloved fish. More often than not the only place they need to look for a cause is in their own mirror.

A fool once told me “this used to be a great lake. I would come before work and get my limit of walleye and stop back after work and limit out again. It has been getting harder and harder to do that since they put those dumb muskies in here. Those muskies have been eating all the walleye.”

1hl&sinker wrote:

Samples from one lake does not offer a conclusion of a study. Why report a story when all the facts are not in. Lake to lake studies can differ. Look into Wisconsin and Michigan studies, they will give a more rounded conclusion, they have been studying this long before Mn.
If one prefers to hang ones hat on one lake just so one can say anti musky crowd more power to them but I think it’s rather short sided.

This does tell the story for MILTONA. Since I live in Alexandria and hear a lot of people complaining about how they can’t catch walleyes on miltona and blame the muskies, I will hang my hat and use this study to inform them. though as others have said they will blow it off as fake news.

fishthumper wrote:

It doesn’t matter if its Muskies, Bass, Netting, Clearer water, ect. far to many ( Note – did not say all ) Die hard Walleye fishermen are always looking to point a finger someplace for the decline of their beloved fish. More often than not the only place they need to look for a cause is in their own mirror. Often they set out each day with their goal being to catch and harvest a full limit for each person in their boat. I have no doubt if Bass and Muskie fishermen also had this same goal that those fish population would be declining fast as well. I’m not saying its not Ok to harvest fish to eat. I myself harvest fish of all species each year ( Except Muskie – Never keep one of them ) Just saying that over harvest by fishermen probably is one if not the biggest factor in the decline of walleye populations in a lot of lakes.

This is accurate. You could throw the meat hunting panfish crowd into that group too.

Hey Joe…

Thanks for making a stand with the facts !

Haters can be desperate ! lol

tweed

I have fished Vermilion for years. Since the musky population and size increased, I don’t think I catch that many less fish, but I don’t catch them in the same places. The fish under 10′ of water just don’t seem to exist in big numbers anymore. I could be the rusty crayfish or color of the water changing, but I think the musky are also competing for food with the walleye.

Rumor I heard from a local musky addict at the Miltona access: A couple years ago, musky anglers came to the Miltona access at dawn to find the bodies of two large musky siting at the foot of the east public access dock. Presumably, walleye night anglers had caught them, sawed their heads off, and left the bodies for display. Apparently it’s not uncommon for walleye guys to catch muskies overnight while pulling cranks. These are some sick puppies we’re dealing with. Posting scientific studies are not going to make them any more receptive to musky stocking.

One should ask themselves, why are almost all of the major musky fisheries in Minnesota also still considered destination walleye lakes? Lake of the Woods, Mille Lacs, Vermilion, Cass, Leech, etc. If the musky were truly walleye-eating machines, wouldn’t these lakes be wiped out?

DaveB wrote:

I have fished Vermilion for years. Since the musky population and size increased, I don’t think I catch that many less fish, but I don’t catch them in the same places. The fish under 10′ of water just don’t seem to exist in big numbers anymore. I could be the rusty crayfish or color of the water changing, but I think the musky are also competing for food with the walleye.

Probably more water clarity and loss of weed cover.

Bass Thumb,
That is sick to hear. The anti muskie walleye guys do seem to be older fishermen in general, and not so much a young fishermen so I guess that’s a positive.

Bass Thumb wrote:

One should ask themselves, why are almost all of the major musky fisheries in Minnesota also still considered destination walleye lakes? Lake of the Woods, Mille Lacs, Vermilion, Cass, Leech, etc. If the musky were truly walleye-eating machines, wouldn’t these lakes be wiped out?

Mille Lacs is a Bass and northern lake

Guys the Musky are getting even smarter, they are now dumping the walleye on shore!

Humans don’t runi walleye fishing, musky do!

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Are they filleted? Native harvest in the area?

They are filleted, no word on whether it was a legal harvest or not. I’m assuming we will find out very shortly though.

Any idea as to the supposed location of those carcasses?

blank wrote:

Any idea as to the supposed location of those carcasses?

Somewhere on the Iron Range. Been trying to pin down exactly where all morning.