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So my FF league switched to the standard PPR points format this season. I got the dreaded #1 pick overall. Its a 10 Team league. Its a snake draft format. Looking over some well know Mock drafts here was how 2 of them played out for Pick #1 thru rounds 1-4.
ESPN – Justin Jefferson, Joe Mixon, Travis Etienne, Darren Waller
CBS sports – Justin Jefferson, Jonathan Taylor, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Jones

I guess I’d be happy with either one, But I think I’d rather it play out like the CBS one. What do you think?

I am a little surprised at how many WR’s are being drafted in the first few rounds.

Right now I think my strategy for rounds 1-4 are this:
Rd. 1 – Probably Jefferson
Rd. 2 – Then Best RB still available
Rd. 3 – QB ( assuming that Mahomes, Hurts, or Allen is available
Rd. 4 – Best remaining RB
What are your thoughts on taking Jefferson with the 1st overall pick? If not him, who would you pick. Assuming all 3 of the above mentioned QB’s are available with 1st pick in the 3rd round ( Probably not ) what one would you pick.

I have till Aug. 31st to figure it out. Sure would be nice to not end up near the bottom this year.

I would consider McCaffrey as the top pick. Nothing wrong with JJ though either. McCaffrey will get you a lot of PPR points because they use him in the running and passing game. He’s the most complete back in the league when he’s healthy. That being said, he does have some injury risk. He played an entire season last year, but the two years prior he missed significant time.

If not McCaffrey, I would go with another JJ… Josh Jacobs. (who am I kidding, I would take the original JJ)

gimruis wrote:

I would consider McCaffrey as the top pick. Nothing wrong with JJ though either. McCaffrey will get you a lot of PPR points because they use him in the running and passing game. He’s the most complete back in the league when he’s healthy. That being said, he does have some injury risk. He played an entire season last year, but the two years prior he missed significant time.

Ya. McCaffrey just scares me. He has burned owners several times in the last 3 years. To me, he just doesn’t have a great build to hold up to the pounding that he takes.

There’s no way I’d take ANY qb in round 3 of a 10 team PPR draft. The trade off between some of the top guys and Lamar, Dak, Cousins, Tua, Rodgers, and so on isn’t that substantial with Fantasy points. I use my first 3 or 4 picks on guys where I know the next best option is substantially worse.

If I were you I’d probably go Jefferson, then RB, RB

***I won a competitive 16 team PPR league and made a grand last year by using Cousins at the QB spot. The guy that got third had Daniel Jones starting at the end of the year.

Cousins is gonna be a hot pick this year – His stats were great last year and there will be less reliance on the running game this year – couple that with arguably best receiver core in Football (and I only say arguably because Addison hasn’t proven himself yet) and you should have a top 5 fantasy QB. We’ll see.

ThunderLund78 wrote:

Cousins is gonna be a hot pick this year – His stats were great last year and there will be less reliance on the running game this year – couple that with arguably best receiver core in Football (and I only say arguably because Addison hasn’t proven himself yet) and you should have a top 5 fantasy QB. We’ll see.

He’s ranked number 11 in my league which is ESPN standard scoring. That’s only borderline starter material in a 10 team league.

Cousins has good stats but they are purely because of his passing. He has virtually no running yardage or rushing TDs and that’s when QBs in FF make their hay. Mahomes, Allen, and Hurts will be the first three off the board in every league. Then probably Burrow. I’d draft Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields over Cousins solely because of the rushing yardage they accumulate.

its a wide receiver league now. Thats where the points are. Less and less true 3 down backs make me want to hammer WR more this year than ever

As others have said, taking a QB sooner than the 6th round is too soon. If you look at stats from previous years, there usually isn’t much different between the number 3 scoring QB and the number 15 QB over a full year. It is becoming more of a passing league and I agree there aren’t many 3 down backs anymore. We hopefully should find out about Taylor and Jacobs status before the league starts. Jacobs is still holding out and not sure what Taylor’s real status is. If they don’t commit to playing before you draft, you then have to guess do you use a high draft choice on somebody who may hold out the year.

Walleye Hungry wrote:

its a wide receiver league now. Thats where the points are. Less and less true 3 down backs make me want to hammer WR more this year than ever

The second place guy in our competitive 16 team PPR league went WR, WR, WR with his first 3 picks. He made money and proved some people wrong from the draft party.

It definitely depends on your draft position in a big league with how you make your position picks. 10 or 12 teams opens more options and less “bad picks”. In a 16 team league if one of your top 4 or 5 picks gets hurt or you reach for someone, you’re hoping to get a shot to play for consolation.

buckybadger wrote:

There’s no way I’d take ANY qb in round 3 of a 10 team PPR draft. The trade off between some of the top guys and Lamar, Dak, Cousins, Tua, Rodgers, and so on isn’t that substantial with Fantasy points. I use my first 3 or 4 picks on guys where I know the next best option is substantially worse.

If I were you I’d probably go Jefferson, then RB, RB

***I won a competitive 16 team PPR league and made a grand last year by using Cousins at the QB spot. The guy that got third had Daniel Jones starting at the end of the year.

Tlazer wrote:

As others have said, taking a QB sooner than the 6th round is too soon. If you look at stats from previous years, there usually isn’t much different between the number 3 scoring QB and the number 15 QB over a full year. It is becoming more of a passing league and I agree there aren’t many 3 down backs anymore. We hopefully should find out about Taylor and Jacobs status before the league starts. Jacobs is still holding out and not sure what Taylor’s real status is. If they don’t commit to playing before you draft, you then have to guess do you use a high draft choice on somebody who may hold out the year.

I looked at the ppr scoring totals from last season at each position. The drop In point totals from #1 to #10 at each position were
QB 139 points
RB 132 points
WR 123 points

So the drop from the #1 QB to the #10 QB was the largest. Not sure how it would play out from #1 to say #20.

Tlazer wrote:

As others have said, taking a QB sooner than the 6th round is too soon. If you look at stats from previous years, there usually isn’t much different between the number 3 scoring QB and the number 15 QB over a full year. It is becoming more of a passing league and I agree there aren’t many 3 down backs anymore. We hopefully should find out about Taylor and Jacobs status before the league starts. Jacobs is still holding out and not sure what Taylor’s real status is. If they don’t commit to playing before you draft, you then have to guess do you use a high draft choice on somebody who may hold out the year.

Not saying you are wrong. But looking at lots of mock drafts, by the start of round 6 almost all mock drafts already have 7-8 QB’s already gone.

A lot depends on your scoring system, and if you have flex players able to play each week. In a couple of leagues I am in we have a flex option where you can choose a rb, wr, or a te. I would rather have a better option at rb, wr than to pick a qb early. This gives me more flex in case of injury, and bye weeks. Now while I haven’t won the leagues I usually finish no worse than 3rd and have been in the championship game twice. Both leagues are 10 team leagues. But everyone has their own strategy.

Just checked last years Point difference in one of the leagues. The point difference between the #1 and the #10 player were as follows. QB there was a 91 point difference, RB had 143 point differential, and WR had 112 point difference. So depending on how you score your league this could impact the totals. My thought was since most people try to finish a starting lineup first, once most teams have a starting QB they usually don’t pick another QB till later. I would rather have a better option at RB and WR since in both leagues we start 2 -RB, 2 – WR and a flex option, but hey we all have our own opinions. That what makes it fun, besides the smash talking.

Travis Kelce is also someone to consider top 3. He scores like a top 3 receiver but he’s in one of the lower scoring positions at TE. He gives you much more advantage with your TE spot than a Jefferson would at WR especially when you can get another one in the second round with fairly close production. Just another way to think about it. I have my draft tomorrow evening and have the 5th pick and am hoping Kelce falls to me. Not sure it’ll happen though.

I’m also doing one of Charchian’s Guillotine leagues this year. I think that is going to be really fun. You don’t play head to head, rather the lowest scoring team each week gets cut and the remaining league has a blind bidding period on their roster during the week.

mahtofire14 wrote:

I’m also doing one of Charchian’s Guillotine leagues this year. I think that is going to be really fun. You don’t play head to head, rather the lowest scoring team each week gets cut and the remaining league has a blind bidding period on their roster during the week.

I listen to Fantasy Football Weekly frequently on KFAN during the season. Yesterday was their first session.

They had a segment on the top 5 players to avoid drafting at all costs in the QB, WR, and RB position. Rodgers and Watson topped the QB spot. Breece Hall and Elliott were the tops at the RB position. Toney and Evans were the WRs to avoid. They ranked these players to avoid based on previous injury, QB issues, age, and poor productivity in the past.

I listened to that also Gim. We’ll see how my draft goes tonight. If Kelce falls to me at 5 I think I’m going to go Kelce then Mahomes and then best WR and RB the next two rounds. A bit risky but those two score so many points every year. I think I can get plenty of good WRs and RBs in rounds 3,4,5 to have a nice team.

So in a 10 Team League with the standard PPR scoring format, Who would all of you pick with the overall first pick?

McCaffrey or Jefferson

I would go JJ over Cmac just because of injury concerns.

I was going to go with Kelce, but he went right before my 5th pick. So I took Hill. JJ went first, then Cmac, then Chase, then Kelce. Pretty standard.

It didn’t go according to plan (like usual) but it turned out pretty well and I shouldn’t have too much trouble making the playoffs.

anyone playing guillotine leagues?

been doing those for the last 3 years and cashed in 2 of those. last year I joined one with Sergio Romo. Been playing for over 30 years and this IS the best format I have come across.
if you like having fun its not for you but if you like out witting others and out bidding them too, it is the way.
super chop is new and lets you win nice pots in the thousands not a couple measly hundred bucks for a years worth of work. there is a chance you lose it all in week one tho

I’m doing my first one this year eyeguy. I think it’s going to be really fun. The 18 team leagues sure make the draft interesting.

when I say it is not for fun, I mean your fun could end in a couple weeks. It’s a game of survival. FYI bye weeks are your enemy in an 18 team league. choose wisely and good luck!

I have played FF for a long time and have been a die-hard RB guy. I think you still have to take what the draft gives you but there is no doubt I will be favoring WR early. There are just too many committee situations at RB.

I want at least two #1 WRs.

So how about a little help with the who would you Pick with the 1st overall pick in our league format ??????? I’m hoping to get enough of the same answers to help me make my decision.

been playing FF for many years….. Have 2 long standing leagues…

1. 10 team PPR – traditional draft.

2. 14 team non-ppr (w/custom settings on other stats) – auction draft

10 team PPR I would go…

JJ
Chase
Kelce
Ekeler
Kupp

in that order……….. I’m a Badger and Packer fan. So no Viking Homer mental block here.

The potential issue with drafting Chase so high is that Joe Burrow looks like he is going to miss some time. 3-4 weeks is what I’ve heard. Their backup is Trevor Simeon – a massive down grade.

Not saying Chase isn’t worth drafting, his stock just isn’t as high as it would be with Burrow at the helm for the first month of the season.

OK, so tomorrow evening is our FF draft. Any last minutes words of wisdom or thoughts? I guess I’m leaning towards going with Justin Jefferson with the #1 overall pick. Just don’t trust McCaffrey’s health to risk the #1 overall pick on him. Probably take the best RB still remaining with the 2nd round pick. Them if one of the top 2-3 QB’s still around for my pick in the 3rd take one of them. I have a feeling that the top 2 or 3 QB’s may be off the board prior to my 3rd round pick, Even though its the 1st pick of the 3rd round. It should not happen that way but my guess it will.

fishthumper wrote:

Any last minutes words of wisdom or thoughts?

Don’t overthink it, pick JJ and enjoy the ride. Personally I don’t think there are many RB’s with a ton of value, but there are a ton of RB’s with similar value, so I would go WR/TE strong and pick 2-3 more studs with your next picks. Then get as many solid RB choices as possible, and pick the best remaining QB late in the draft. QB’s are ALWAYS overrated, unless you get Mahomes and whichever other 1 ends up having a stellar year.

I’d go with JJ. It’s really the safest bet. Then you can sit back and pick top position players until the 7th or 8th rd and pick Cousins so you can double dip when JJ catches a TD.