Lake Associations get Serious !!!!

  • Buzz
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1814
    #1309426

    Note part about $50 boat licenses, confiscations and A-J Tournament lakes.

    Tim

    By Tim Spielman
    Associate Editor
    St. Paul — Could this be the year the DNR, legislators, and lake groups coalesce in a way that takes aquatic invasive species rules and awareness to a new level? The path is being cut.
    Not only has the DNR formulated a wish list to prevent the spread of aquatic invasives in the state, but lake interests, too, are outlining rules they’d like implemented – and they’re recruiting legislators who might bring them to light in St. Paul.
    Last week, nearly 250 people – including eight state representatives and senators – gathered in Detroit Lakes for the “Tri-County Aquatic Invasive Species Legislative Summit,” according to Dan Kittilson, president of the Hubbard County Coalition of Lake Associations.
    “Basically, it was… to make legislators aware of the threat of invasive species and to seek their support and commitment,” Kittilson said this week. Otter Tail and Becker county officials also hosted the event.
    But the summit wasn’t intended just to create awareness, Kittilson said; it was to prompt action on invasives issues.
    “Hubbard County cannot afford to sit idly by and watch invasives coming into our lakes,” he said in press release announcing the summit. “We have to act now, in partnership with Becker and Otter Tail counties, to harness all available state, regional, and local resources in this fight before it’s too late and our lakes are irreparably harmed.”
    Kittilson, who lives on the Mantrap Chain of Lakes near Park Rapids, said the Hubbard County COLA currently works with area resorts, as well as 29 lake associations (representing 40 lakes and 2,150 members) in the county, to share AIS information.
    While Kittilson favors – once funding is secured – inspections to prevent the spread of invasives (zebra mussels are an example), along with containment of the invasives on “super-spreaders” like Mille Lacs, where zebes already exist, other groups would go further in attempting to curb AIS spread.
    The Green Lake Property Owners Association in Kandiyohi County has on its website a list of recommendations.
    Among them, the group advocates:
    • The state acquiring decontamination equipment by way of a fee system on watercraft that enter infested waters, or through a state contract with private operators. A biennial $50 fee, they say, could generate as much as $45 million;
    • A seal/tag system for boats leaving infested waters of the state, to document inspections and decontaminations;
    • Contaminated water bodies should be prioritized so that resources are allocated on the basis of risk posed by “super-spreader” lakes;
    • Greater regulation of fishing contests. A moratorium on fishing contests on those lakes with names beginning with letters A through J would be imposed in the year 2011 and all odd-numbered years thereafter. Those lakes with names beginning with letters K through Z would be subject to a moratorium on fishing contests in 2012 and all even-numbered years thereafter;
    • Severe penalties, including confiscation of boats and trailers, when appropriate, for moving a watercraft from access areas in infested waters without certified decontamination.
    The Green Lake group estimates the annual cost of its proposed program would be between $5 million and $10 million.
    The DNR’s list of actions to prevent the spread of invasives includes some similarities – putting more teeth in penalties, for example. The department believes $50 and $100 fines are too low, and don’t act as deterrents.
    The department also would like to see improvement in the state’s inspector program, something former DNR fisheries biologist and current fisheries activist Dick Sternberg also favors.
    Sternberg, though, cautions groups to be cautious in what they demand from stepped-up AIS species programs.
    “It’s going to take a lot of thought and it’s going to be expensive,” he said. “It’s going to be difficult.”
    Turn too many people off with new rules, he said, and a lack of support might be the downfall of proposed legislation.
    “You only get one shot at this,” he said.
    Sternberg said he’d like to see decontamination facilities available for boaters at places like Mille Lacs and Minnetonka.
    He believes Legacy Amendment funding should be made available for decontamination or other efforts aimed at curbing invasives.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #929790

    Dare I say…no I better not.

    jerrj01
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 1547
    #929798

    They need to consider the other side of the coin. Tick off enough boat owners and the number of boat registrations and fishing license will go to all time lows and the DNR will not have a need to exist as far as being on the water. Maybe that is what they are looking for. I’d say they need to tread lightly.

    jimfish
    Posts: 52
    #929897

    How are they going to control the water fowl from bring these things in to the lakes.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #929959

    Get serious Jim!

    Didn’t you read their suggestions? Fines and boat confiscations!

    Also water fowl will only be able to us lake starting with A-J one year.

    I’m in agreement that we can do things to slow down movement of these invasives, but there has to be a common sense line.

    It still cracks me up reading the above knowing the WI DNR is still pushing for a fish passageway around Lock & Dam #3.

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #930756

    Just another attempt by elitist shore land owners to get everybody off “their” lakes. How about we pour 500 DNR officers onto Tonka and Green every holiday weekend. They can check for speed, equipment, license, sobriety, safety and other issues. No warnings, just write tickets.

    See how important evasive species are to them then.

    It’s all camouflage to get the lake to themselves.

    Tom Sawvell
    Inactive
    Posts: 9559
    #931302

    Quote:


    Just another attempt by elitist shore land owners to get everybody off “their” lakes. How about we pour 500 DNR officers onto Tonka and Green every holiday weekend. They can check for speed, equipment, license, sobriety, safety and other issues. No warnings, just write tickets.

    See how important evasive species are to them then.

    It’s all camouflage to get the lake to themselves.


    I can think of a few other lakes that could tolerate this sort of “monitoring”. What a great idea.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #931431

    How does this work anyway? Ordinary people buy some lake shore property and they instantly turn into “stay off my lake” people?

    Buzz
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1814
    #931857

    As much as I would like to be critical of some of the Lake Association hysterics, we aren’t seeing the angling community working on any education or prevention plans. Things like boat washing stations, containment zones are well-intentioned by the folks proposing them. The real threat I see is that by proposing unrealistic and unreasonably expensive solutions, it steers the conversation away from what needs to be emphasized. Pull,drain and inspect.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18623
    #932042

    Quote:


    How does this work anyway? Ordinary people buy some lake shore property and they instantly turn into “stay off my lake” people? [/quote

    Everybody gets jealous of their back yard. Some more than others. Remember your buddy acriss from Afton? Weren’t we supposed converge on that dock…

    rgoi812
    Good hour from whitewater
    Posts: 468
    #934908

    Ever wonder how much revenue an annual permit for docks and boat lifts would generate? Same as everyone pays for a permanent ice house that stays on a public lake less than half the time.This would surely offset alot of budget issues the dnr has been faced with to accomplish their goals.

    uffdapete
    Rainy Lake, MN
    Posts: 394
    #936539

    I agree with the common sense approach. But it is a serious and very very costly problem. I was told by a grad student that a college professor at a well known and credible university (none of which are green tree huggers) determined that the total cost of dealing with invasives including education, treatment, loss of revenue, etc. is more than is spent on the war in Iraq. That might seem alarming but it’s hard to really get your mind around the magnitude of the problem.

    What would have the most initial impact imo is prohibiting the dumping of ballast water in the great lakes. That is probably the number 1 contributor. Not optimistic about that happening anytime soon – too many $$$ involved there. And we might step on some foreign folks’ tootsies.

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #936542

    Quote:


    How does this work anyway? Ordinary people buy some lake shore property and they instantly turn into “stay off my lake” people?


    Don’t let me catch you on my lake.

    alyssabaker
    Posts: 1
    #937318

    The other posts here are great suggestions. Here are a couple of other ideas that come to mind. You could also check out Willow River State Park, which is just northeast of Hudson, Wisconsin and easily within an hour of the Twin Cities. It’s getting more and more surrounded with development, but once you are there it feels pretty remote. There is a dam on the Willow River that creates a reservoir which allows for ice fishing. The Willow River is a trout fishing stream, but I don’t think it’s open for trout fishing in the winter. It’s an easy drive east on Interstate 94 from Minneapolis and Saint Paul. Another option is Fort Snelling State Park which is literally just below the MSP airport. It’s down in the Minnesota River Valley and very convenient but of course you are constantly reminded that we are a civilization that travels by air.
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    Palerider77
    Posts: 630
    #965628

    It always makes me laugh when the hysterical have no shortage of suggestions on how to make somebody else pay for something.

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