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  • mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11040
    #2119098

    “Sincerely Ron Schara” But don’t come to me with questions, call this other guy.

    I’m still not overly impressed with this group. Seems like the 1% ers of MN fishing trying to raise money for walleye stocking to me. I don’t believe they’ve actually accomplished anything in the three years they’ve been a thing.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22550
    #2119100

    I wonder if it will turn into the now defunct North American Fishing Club.. they collected dues and some even bought Lifetime memberships… and now its not even a thing anymore… crazy

    3Rivers
    Posts: 1102
    #2119101

    I’m still trying to determine how much it costs (in addition to member dues) to be a “benefactor” and attend this “critical event”…. Anyone else get an answer?

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16822
    #2119102

    There’s no proof that MNFISH is a thing either.

    3Rivers
    Posts: 1102
    #2119108

    There’s no proof that MNFISH is a thing either.

    Other than the high profile names, booths at sports shows, and mailing address? Do you think the names involved would put up their reputations and livelihoods for a fake coalition?

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16822
    #2119109

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
    There’s no proof that MNFISH is a thing either.

    Other than the high profile names, booths at sports shows, and mailing address? Do you think the names involved would put up their reputations and livelihoods for a fake coalition?

    Yes. I also don’t think they will put whats good for Minnesota sportsman over thats good for their business. Show me something, anything that they specifically have done other than hire 4 lobbyists. They talk a good game, they beg for money, they flaunt their names but I would like to see some results. I also wonder why they chose access improvement as a starting point? Wouldn’t that fall under the DNR control which we already fund? Isn’t this $97 million another tax sportsman are paying to fund something that their taxes are already suppose to be funding? I’ll lead the bandwagon charge when they can show me something concrete that they have accomplished.

    3Rivers
    Posts: 1102
    #2119111

    I don’t disagree, but I also don’t think it’s “not a thing” either, because clearly it is and they have donated things and such. But I also agree it could just be another NAFC.
    All I know is that I’ve been waiting 5 years on a boat ramp that has been barricaded even though it’s perfectly fine to use and these people sure aren’t going to help me. )

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10658
    #2119119

    I think you donate money, become a member.

    Yup, but how much was my question

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11040
    #2119135

    Ah…..

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    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16822
    #2119142

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
    I think you donate money, become a member.

    Yup, but how much was my question

    Sorry, I got distracted. jester

    I don’t know how much, might be a good question for BK to ask and report back on.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11040
    #2119148

    I’m not sure anyone knows much about MNfish. They don’t give you a whole lot of answers or accomplishments with 2 newsletters a year and nothing else.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16822
    #2119380

    They discovered zebra mussels in Rainy last year. This year there will be decontamination stations around I-Falls & VNP including the mechanical portage at the Kettle Falls Hotel. NOBODY will get into Namakin without pressure washing.

    Welcome to 2022.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16822
    #2119397

    Hey, I’m just giving you a heads up. If you go there or not is up to you.

    xplorer
    Cloquet, MN
    Posts: 686
    #2119428

    They discovered zebra mussels in Rainy last year. This year there will be decontamination stations around I-Falls & VNP including the mechanical portage at the Kettle Falls Hotel. NOBODY will get into Namakin without pressure washing.

    Welcome to 2022.

    Its actually a truck portage, and Kettle Falls Hotel would have to decontaminate both of their trucks every time they pulled any boat out of Rainy. That would be insane on a daily basis and add in the extra time on busy days (many guides make the trip from Kab/Nam into Rainy in July/Aug for the reef fishing) and it will be a massive cluster. Glad all 3 of my trips this year are on Namakan (no far east end Rainy trips where I portage over this year) and my one trip on Rainy I will put in/out at the VNP dock on Rainy itself.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11040
    #2121000

    They’ve been around for 3 years now (I think), and these are still their four main issues at the summit for tomorrow…..would’ve thought those would be identified by now……

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    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11915
    #2121004

    They’ve been around for 3 years now (I think), and these are still their four main issues at the summit for tomorrow…..would’ve thought those would be identified by now……

    Haha no kidding, and you’d think an organization trying to build a grassroots following and support wouldn’t use such corporate speak. Just missing synergy, circle back, diversity/inclusion/equity (for our commish) and a few other corporate buzz words.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59998
    #2121048

    Dutch, I asked what it would cost to attend the Summit. Never got a reply.

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10658
    #2121083

    Usually they have been pretty good at responding to my questions. For some reason all I’m getting is crickets this time

    keppenhiemer
    (507) MN
    Posts: 142
    #2121112

    look hiring lobbyists is a big step! I don’t know much about these guys, I’m not a member, but I am happy they are doing something! at lest someone is looking out for fishing! do they have there own agenda… yeah I’m sure they do, but that’s what motivated them to do something! if you what to be represented so bad Dutch get to lobbying yourself or start a pro fishing organization that transparently reports to all anglers! id be happy to to support that! somebody has to fend off the no lead tackle, tundra swan, Teva sandal, kayaking, hippie dippy liberals!

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11040
    #2121115

    look hiring lobbyists is a big step! I don’t know much about these guys, I’m not a member, but I am happy they are doing something! at lest someone is looking out for fishing! do they have there own agenda… yeah I’m sure they do, but that’s what motivated them to do something! if you what to be represented so bad Dutch get to lobbying yourself or start a pro fishing organization that transparently reports to all anglers! id be happy to to support that! somebody has to fend off the no lead tackle, tundra swan, Teva sandal, kayaking, hippie dippy liberals!

    Problem is this organization hasn’t done anything in 3 years and has taken a lot of people’s money along the way.

    keppenhiemer
    (507) MN
    Posts: 142
    #2121508

    progress at the government level it the slowest most grueling process

    THE DECISION MAKING BY PERSONS IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION WITHIN GOVERNMENT
    IS BASED NOT ON WHAT IS BEST FOR THE MASSES OR EVEN WHAT IS BEST FOR THE INSTITUTION, BUT IS BASED SOLELY ON WHAT IS BEST FOR THAIR CAREER, ANYTHING ELSE IS JUST A BYPRODUCT.
    -ME after 15 years of government service

    3Rivers
    Posts: 1102
    #2121546

    You would think that with the money they’ve collected, they could afford a semi decent audio system and a social media specialist. They called this Summit a historic event for MN Fishing and they didn’t even test the broadcast?

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16822
    #2121553

    I’m sure BK is crafting his report as we type. I’ll be interested to read what the mega EGO’s came up with and what lies Walz spewed this time.

    JEREMY
    BP
    Posts: 3975
    #2121572

    Except for on here i never even heard on MNFISH til Monday night. Dont remember if i was watching Twins game or waiting for Wild game to start but seen a commercial with Ron Schara about it. Seemed genuine enough for me to fall for it til i remembered what you guys say about it.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16822
    #2121595

    Because I have nothing better to do jester I went through and re-read the whole thread again. Nothing posted to this point has changed my opinion. Maybe BK’s report on what happened will but I’m skeptical.

    It’s really to bad because I think the sportsman had high hopes that maybe somebody was looking out for the resource and our place in it.

    Maybe somebody here knows this…..how hard would it be to post the minutes here on IDO from the MN-FISH meetings? Being a non-profit I assume they should have some degree of transparency don’t they? James, would that be allowed here? The reason I ask is they don’t want to make anything public but the meeting minutes would at least let us know what they are thinking and contemplating.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11915
    #2121610

    You would think that with the money they’ve collected, they could afford a semi decent audio system and a social media specialist. They called this Summit a historic event for MN Fishing and they didn’t even test the broadcast?

    I was one of between 9 and 27 viewers during the stream, and at least 2 of them were DNR employees. Guess historic could mean a lot of things… whistling rotflol

    Buzz
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1814
    #2121771

    Once again I’d like to encourage folks to support and join MN Fish. They aren’t capable off preforming the instantaneous miracles that some are expecting. It takes years to build a grassroots group that will represent anglers in Minnesota. The bonding bills they are supporting might take two or three legislative sessions (bonding bills are only entertained every other session). You have a opportunity to help build a true MN angling organization that can represent us. I along with a handful of others have spent the last twenty years trying to influence legislation that benefits anglers. You’re talking at least a million anglers in MN with zero representation. Many are like myself who started with little knowledge of how the DNR makes rules and how legislative bills work. Numbers speak loud, we need to give MN Fish our support and voice.

    3Rivers
    Posts: 1102
    #2121794

    I signed up the very first day I heard of MN-FISH Founding Member March 1, 2019

    So 3 years ago and some change

    Since that time,

    -The website isn’t optimized (Google can’t even find MN-Fish).
    -Last update was Nov 18 2021
    -The Summit info isn’t even on the website.
    -To date…no products or discounts in my account dashboard or any invites to special events.
    -No reply to my email about purchasing an invite to the Summit (which they clearly instructed people to do in their call to action).

    I’ll continue to contribute because I believe in the same things they do. But I’m not going to lie, it feels more like I’m buying a $35 beer and burger at a sports game than signing up for a membership.

    I sure hope they hire an experienced social media/marketing person who can keep the stuff active and relevant and professional. The broadcast of that Summit was atrocious. Honestly someone could have done better with a cheap GoPro and wireless mic. Like someone else mentioned, there were 20 or less watching the live stream. That’s not how you build recruitment and sustain it. Did they even take questions from the viewers? And if so, why not?
    The less transparent they are, the harder it’s going to be for them.

    I figure 5 years of membership should be a good gauge. I wonder how things will look in 2024…

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16822
    #2121795

    Buzz & 3Rivers, I would love to support them, give them my money. And I will just as soon as they show me they are serious about representing anglers and not just doing membership drives. As long as I feel I can flip $50 out the window and my and get better representation i’ll sit on the sidelines.

    Buzz, i’m not buying what you are selling. I don’t care how long it takes to move a bill through legislation it’s not hard to be transparent with the guys footing the bill.

    So if they 20 or so on-line it makes you wonder how many members they actually have?

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