MN Wild 2019-2020 Official Thread

So we’re looking at the Stanley Cup Finals probably around Labor Day? That will be interesting.

mplspug wrote:

Bring on the Canucks

Yes, not the worst draw in the world. If the Wild can get out of the gate fast, it’s not too big of a stretch to win a best of 5.

Also, since the season is resuming, I would have to think that now we absolutely get that contingent draft pick from the Pens this year rather than next. Win.

gimruis wrote:

So we’re looking at the Stanley Cup Finals probably around Labor Day? That will be interesting.

Especially when the Conference finals teams have to turn around and start playing the 20-21 season 2 weeks later.

So, of course, the question has to be asked: Are the Wild trying to bring Kaprisov in for the resumed season?

Grouse

At the moment Kaprisov won’t be allowed to play this season if it’s resumed. And Russo said on PA today that the NHL doesn’t sound like they are going to budge on that ruling.

That’s good for the Wild. What if he really wanted to play this year and they let him burn a year in good faith for 3 games.

mplspug wrote:

That’s good for the Wild. What if he really wanted to play this year and they let him burn a year in good faith for 3 games.

What if he decides he doesn’t want to wait until December to play in the NHL next year and signs another contract in the KHL?

At this point the wild need him under contract ASAP.

https://news.sportbox.ru/Vidy_sporta/Hokkej/KHL/spbnews_NI1193744_Kaprizov_i_Sorokin_provedut_sezon_2020_21_v_CSKA

Straight outta Russia… Probably not a legit source but gives an idea of the pressure he faces to stay there.

I imagine there is no bigger pressure than to play on the NHL and possibly make elite money one day.

mplspug wrote:

I imagine there is no bigger pressure than to play on the NHL and possibly make elite money one day.

True but the Russians have the capability to give him elite money as well. Who knows what pressure his friends and family may be putting on him to stay home. He’s a star in the KHL, make the money he needs and not have to deal with a enormous culture change and language barrier.

On the other hand I’m sure he wants to know if he can be a star in the NHL which is what we’d all like to find out.

This might be the year mn gets a cup, with a huge asterisk by it in the record books would be our luck.

basseyes wrote:

This might be the year mn gets a cup, with a huge asterisk by it in the record books would be our luck.

Sounds about right. People would notice about as much as they do a Lynx championship.

mplspug wrote:

I imagine there is no bigger pressure than to play on the NHL and possibly make elite money one day.

I’m talking pressure from Russia, the KHL, and the media. Seems like people really don’t understand it.

Kinda like when team Russia didn’t give him a single shift in the world championships until he signed when CSKA.

Did you read the article I linked? Says there is a 95% chance he will sign with CSKA next year if he can’t play in the NHL this summer.

Ice Cap wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>basseyes wrote:</div>
This might be the year mn gets a cup, with a huge asterisk by it in the record books would be our luck.

Sounds about right. People would notice about as much as they do a Lynx championship.

Imaginge the parade route. It would have to go from St. Paul to Duluth to St. Cloud and back with all the social distancing.

TSN’s Derin Dreger reported that the NHLPA will push back hard against the NHL to allow these types of players like Kaprizov the ability to sign if the league starts back up this season…I could see the NHL just caving to the NHLPA on this as a good graces move that really doesn’t give up any power from the NHL’s perspective especially with a collective bargaining negotiation in the near future… The NHL also extended the deadline to sign these types of Players from June 1st to July 1st, no reason to do that if they don’t intended to allow the players to sign, just more time for the NHL to get something back from the NHLPA….

JoeMX1825 wrote:

TSN’s Derin Dreger reported that the NHLPA will push back hard against the NHL to allow these types of players like Kaprizov the ability to sign if the league starts back up this season…I could see the NHL just caving to the NHLPA on this as a good graces move that really doesn’t give up any power from the NHL’s perspective especially with a collective bargaining negotiation in the near future…

Agreed. Honestly it feels like the NHL just made the rule as a bargaining chip to look like they are throwing the NHLPA a bone when they change the ruling.

It just makes no sense… Every other season these guys are eligible to play in the playoffs, but this year they are “ringers” and it’s unfair.

Hearing Kaprizov signed for another year in the KHL. On my phone so don’t have the link.

Ice Cap wrote:

Hearing Kaprizov signed for another year in the KHL. On my phone so don’t have the link.

The few places I’ve seen that have been shot down almost immediately by a KHL insider…Right now the NHLPA is pushing back hard to allow Kaprizov and the few other KHL players in the same boat the ability to play this season, he’s not going to sign anything anywhere else until this is 100% resolved that he couldn’t play this year in the NHL…

JoeMX1825 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ice Cap wrote:</div>
Hearing Kaprizov signed for another year in the KHL. On my phone so don’t have the link.

The few places I’ve seen that have been shot down almost immediately by a KHL insider…

Hope you’re right… “Rumors” that were dismissed by the insiders is exactly how it all started 3 years ago.

He’s told everyone that his intention is to play in the NHL this/next season, couple of things:

IF the NHL decides for certain he cannot play this season, then he has a decision to make:

1) Sign a 1 year deal to play in the KHL again which is supposed to start in September. He would be risking injury that could threaten his NHL career.
2) Sign his 2 year NHL contract with the Wild that would start next season (whenever that start date would be) move to MN and practice with the team until then.
3) Say screw the Wild and sign a 2 year KHL contract that would then make him a 25 year old NHL Free Agent to sign with any team after those 2 years (there’s then 2 years of injury risk)

EVERY other NHL player (eliminated from this season’s playoff bracket) would be in the same boat of waiting an extended time period for next season to start, so it really doesn’t make much sense for Kirill to miss out on his NHL dream just to play hockey in the KHL a few months earlier than the rest of the NHL players…

just my opinion…I think he takes option #2 if the NHL finally decides he can’t play in this years playoff tourney…

He and his agent will use Panarin as an example of how to quickly maximize his value (obviously this depends on Kirill having the same kind of success early on) the big difference is that the Wild is in a better contract situation to offer him a huge deal after 2 seasons then what Chicago was in with Toews and Kane $10+ million contracts already on their books.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

He’s told everyone that his intention is to play in the NHL this/next season, couple of things:

IF the NHL decides for certain he cannot play this season, then he has a decision to make:

1) Sign a 1 year deal to play in the KHL again which is supposed to start in September. He would be risking injury that could threaten his NHL career.
2) Sign his 2 year NHL contract with the Wild that would start next season (whenever that start date would be) move to MN and practice with the team until then.
3) Say screw the Wild and sign a 2 year KHL contract that would then make him a 25 year old NHL Free Agent to sign with any team after those 2 years (there’s then 2 years of injury risk)

EVERY other NHL player (eliminated from this season’s playoff bracket) would be in the same boat of waiting an extended time period for next season to start, so it really doesn’t make much sense for Kirill to miss out on his NHL dream just to play hockey in the KHL a few months earlier than the rest of the NHL players…

just my opinion…I think he takes option #2 if the NHL finally decides he can’t play in this years playoff tourney…

He and his agent will use Panarin as an example of how to quickly maximize his value (obviously this depends on Kirill having the same kind of success early on) the big difference is that the Wild is in a better contract situation to offer him a huge deal after 2 seasons then what Chicago was in with Toews and Kane $10+ million contracts already on their books.

Option 3 is not actually a option. Teams never lose the rights to drafted players that come from the KHL. If he ever wants to play in the NHL he has to play for the wild in the beginning. Panarin was never drafted..

mojocandy101 wrote:

Option 3 is not actually a option. Teams never lose the rights to drafted players that come from the KHL. If he ever wants to play in the NHL he has to play for the wild in the beginning. Panarin was never drafted..

Right… He’d have to demand a trade if he wants to avoid Minnesota altogether… No signs of that happening.

If I’m Kap, I’d hold tight for now and not sign a contract anywhere until there is some clarity on when/if the leagues begin the 20-21 season – OR he gets to play in the NHL this summer.

I just hope the guy has some good advisors in his ear right now looking out for his best interests, and doesn’t succumb to the national pressure to stay in Russia.

My mistake on Option #3, I got completely twisted up. What I meant to put was that once he turns 24 years old, he can ONLY sign a 1 year entry level contract, not 2. He also becomes a UFA when he turns 27 years old, so after his entry level deal is up he’ll likely only sign a short bridge deal until he gets to UFA status and can cash in. Not the end of the world at all, we just could miss out of getting another cheap year out of him while we continue to pay the huge Parise & Suter deals.

Like all Wild fans, I just want to see him play in a Wild sweater, if he turns into the stud we hope he can, then pay him what he’s worth!

Looks like the NHL was poised to select Las Vegas and Toronto as the two host cities for the expanded playoffs. I am hearing on KFAN that Vegas isn’t an option now because of rising infection cases. So they’re considering selecting another Canadian city like Edmonton or Vancouver instead.

gimruis wrote:

Looks like the NHL was poised to select Las Vegas and Toronto as the two host cities for the expanded playoffs. I am hearing on KFAN that Vegas isn’t an option now because of rising infection cases. So they’re considering selecting another Canadian city like Edmonton or Vancouver instead.

Last I read they are having players test positive. As long as that continues to happen I don’t see how they are going to get this thing off the ground.

They might as well just make it a 2019-2021 season.

Just scrap it and hope to start the 2020 season on time with (most likely) no fans.

So the new NHL CBA will remove the compounding recapture penalty in the Suter & Parise contracts should they retire early, so we would only be on the hook for their annual salary, so the doom and gloom scenarios are done with. They will also allow the Wild to sign Kaprizov even though he couldn’t play In the play in round. I’m fine with that as it means we get him under contract and its done with. If Vancouver sweeps us he’d only get 3 games in anyways.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

So the new NHL CBA will remove the compounding recapture penalty in the Suter & Parise contracts should they retire early, so we would only be on the hook for their annual salary, so the doom and gloom scenarios are done with. They will also allow the Wild to sign Kaprizov even though he couldn’t play In the play in round. I’m fine with that as it means we get him under contract and its done with. If Vancouver sweeps us he’d only get 3 games in anyways.

The only change I’m seeing to cap recapture is the recapture cap hit in any given year is capped at the contract AAV. Total dead money cap hit will be the same, just spread over more years in the extreme cases.

mahtofire14 wrote:

Just scrap it and hope to start the 2020 season on time with (most likely) no fans.

I can’t make up my mind. At first, I was against the restart because of what it would take away from the next season and there would always be a * next to it, so why bother.

Then, as CoveBoredom set in, I changed my mind. I’d watch anything including competitive stamp collecting and golf just for something to do. Ok, maybe not golf, but you get the point.

Now, I’m thinking not only is the plug going to get pulled on the restart, but the 2020-21 season is looking iffier and iffier by the day. Unless the players would agree to an entire season of “hub city” play, I’m finding it highly unlikely that the virus will go away to the point where even a “no fans” situation would be allowed, especially considering the cross-border travel.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

So the new NHL CBA will remove the compounding recapture penalty in the Suter & Parise contracts should they retire early, so we would only be on the hook for their annual salary, so the doom and gloom scenarios are done with.

That’s a win for the Wild for sure. It won’t stop the Parise/Suter haters from moaning constantly, but at least the reality is the Wild aren’t in any worse situation than any other team with long-term contracts on the books.

Now if we could just dump Zuccarello before the expansion…

Grouse

It’s official, the playoffs start August 1 in Edmonton (west) and Toronto (East). The Stanley Cup Finals are scheduled to start on Sept 22.