MN Wild 2019-2020 Official Thread

Trocheck is not going to play center in Carolina. The thought is his numbers suffered when they moved him from wing to center.

Rumor is of a possible Parise deal in the works.

Kovalchuk to the Caps. Interesting. Ovie wanted his fellow Russian in on the playoffs?

With the Wild, I think the roster and trade deals (or no deals) will be interesting in terms of showing what Gurin is thinking about the timeline. More prospect and draft deals vs trading for roster-ready players.

Galchenyuk. I mean for a guy who was supposed to be a disposable part of the Zucker trade, he doesn’t look terrible. Possible rescue project for next season with lower-salary 1 year deal? I think a guy who was #3 OA must have something more than he’s showed the last season when being traded around.

Doobs. For the right deal move him. Kaapo is probably going to pan out and hopefully, this year’s NHL experience means by next year he’s a backup contender. Staylock has been not great but good enough for starting duty and maybe even some upside left.

If we assume Koivu does not return even with a reduced 1 year deal, Galchenyuk re-signed at a reduced price, I wonder about where do we sit in the cap space picture?

JoeMX1825 wrote:

biggill wrote:
Supposedly Pateryn is generating a lot of interest currently.

Sell! Sell! Sell!

Yes, can’t see any downside to moving Pateryn.

Grouse

Isles are trying to dump Ladds $5.5M cap hit on the Wild, so no great savings in moving him, what can the Isles offer since they already dealt so many?

biggill wrote:

Rumor is of a possible Parise deal in the works.

Apparently for Ladd. We’ll see.

mplspug wrote:

Isles are trying to dump Ladds $5.5M cap hit on the Wild, so no great savings in moving him, what can the Isles offer since they already dealt so many?

He might be an expansion draft sacrificial lamb I’m hearing.

Parise has waived his NTC.

watching that reporting on TSN right now…very interesting and likely complicated…if this trade happens it opens the door for other trades bringing in a young winger like Kaspari Kapenen.

But A needs to happen before B & C can happen so hopefully this deal gets done with time left for other offers…

mplspug wrote:

Isles are trying to dump Ladds $5.5M cap hit on the Wild, so no great savings in moving him, what can the Isles offer since they already dealt so many?

And we’re still stuck with the damn cap recapture. Does Ladd have an NTC? If not I can see the benefit being one less player we have to protect due to NTC in the expansion cluster draft.

Grouse

I heard it’s a modified NTC which supposedly makes him available for the expansion draft.

biggill wrote:

I heard it’s a modified NTC which supposedly makes him available for the expansion draft.

That’s a net plus then.

Deadwings trying to move Vanek. Anyone? Anyone?

Grouse

biggill wrote:

I heard it’s a modified NTC which supposedly makes him available for the expansion draft.

I believe this is correct, but why would Seattle want him at that cap hit and recent injury history?

Bottom line, trading Parise or Suter was never going to be a winning trade for the Wild, it’s all about getting out of that cap hit for the next 6 years and freeing up a top 6 forward/top 4 defense slot…The cap recapture is what it is, we pay it if he’s on the team or not so might as well get use out of a younger player instead of waiting for him to get hurt. This also adds some fuel to the rumors about him being a locker room issue otherwise BillyG wouldn’t likely trade him…

This will be very interesting if the Parise deal goes through. I dont like the Ladd contract at all and he really wouldnt be a buy-out candidate. Maybe he can just retire. LOL
There will be some very complicated terms in this deal and I have my hesitation because Lou has pulled out of deals in that last minute before once they leaked. Its never done until its done.
It would be a nice reunion for Lou and Parise since Lou drafted him.
Freeing up top-6 spots is good to give others a shot and open up a space for off-season maneuvering. There could be a ton of change in the next 6 months.

Parise and Suter wer never intended to be the saviors or superstars that would carry this team to a cup. They were players to build around with good young talent and complimentary vets like Staal. They failed miserably to develop young talent into anything respectable. Granlund, Nino and Coyle are glaring examples. These guys clearly benefitted by having Parise in the lineup. It just shows how worthless they were.

Right now the wild should be at their prime when P&S are on their downswing. You can’t build around them now so they have to start over. Looks like Fiala is the real deal and we can only hope Kaprisov is anything close to that. These are the new guys to build around.

biggill wrote:

Looks like Fiala is the real deal and we can only hope Kaprisov is anything close to that. These are the new guys to build around.

If we can find a speedy center to fit between these two, lights out! I would actually like to see what Ek could do with them. He has decent speed and frustrates everyone he plays against because he is so tenacious. We need to get a 1 or 2 center this summer somehow. That isnt going to happen today.

CaptainMusky wrote:

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Looks like Fiala is the real deal and we can only hope Kaprisov is anything close to that. These are the new guys to build around.

If we can find a speedy center to fit between these two, lights out! I would actually like to see what Ek could do with them. He has decent speed and frustrates everyone he plays against because he is so tenacious. We need to get a 1 or 2 center this summer somehow. That isnt going to happen today.

Ek doesn’t have the skillset to play between those two guys, they would be frustrated beyond belief…If the Wild can get the #2 pick this draft and take Byfield, then they have their #1 center prospect who’s likely a year or so away from the NHL…so things can change quickly…

I still think the Wild pulls the trigger and gets a young Center this deadline I just hope BillyG doesn’t have the blinders on anything outside of the Parise deal…hopefully the assistant GM is working the phones…

JoeMX1825 wrote:

I believe this is correct, but why would Seattle want him at that cap hit and recent injury history?

The benefit is that we don’t have to waste a protected slot on him in the expansion draft simply because he has an NTC like Zuccarello. You’re right, Seattle wouldn’t likely take him, but at least we’re not wasting a precious protected slot on a player we don’t want to keep and wouldn’t be taken anyway.

We’ll see if the deal gets done.

Grouse

well there goes any Dumba speculation to Carolina after they get Vatanen…curious what they got for him…

looking like BillyG held to his guns and didn’t cave to the pressure of doing anything on the deadline for the sake of doing a move. Next chance is the draft when all of these 2020 picks are known exactly where the slot.

Kudos to the Hurricanes for making big moves without giving up top prospects, how the flying F they are under the cap I have no idea….

Seriously? Nothing?

Is the Parise NTC removed permanently or just waived for today?

lindyrig79 wrote:

Seriously? Nothing?

Is the Parise NTC removed permanently or just waived for today?

Just today, but it tells that he’s willing to get moved…

Its just contingent on a deal in the works being worked out with a team he has agreed to waive it in order to be moved there. IF not no player would never wave his clause and be screwed down the road.

Once the Parise deal was lit it’s almost worse if it dosen’t go through. What’s Parise going to say to the media now? Gee I’m really glad I’m still in a member of the Wild even though I waved my ntc to get out of here. Same going the other way what does Billy G say? We tried to move him because of his salary and other differences but I guess were stuck with him a 7.5M for the next 5 years.

Not a good situation going forward. And not even a rumor about Dumba or Brodin when all the trade talk was centered around those two. Apparently word spread Billy was asking a heck of a lot and nor willing to move. So Carolina went a different direction.

I agree it’s awfully awkward now between the Wild and Parise, sounds like the differences in salary type (Ladd’s mostly signing bonus vs Parise’s all base pay) is what likely killed this deal…BUT they’ve been supposedly talking about doing something all year so these complicated details should have been flushed out a long time ago..what changed? Maybe Lou was still dazed from getting fleeced in the Pageau deal…

Carolina settled for lesser players than who the Wild were offering, heck Vatenen is out hurt for the next 3-4 weeks and Skjei isn’t anything special and what do they do next year with Dougie Hamilton? so Vatinen and Skjei are basically rentals…but this is a luxury for the Canes who’s years of being an NHL bottom dweller gave them high draft slots and they turned those picks into awesome prospects so their talent pool is stacked for years to come…

BillyG still has all of his poker chips for the draft and will be able to see the other teams cards now in a sense that the draft slots will be set. We’ll just have to wait until June now…

Hope springs eternal…

…is it spring yet?

I will say some players absolutely should have got traded and the fact that they didn’t is just alarming… Why not deal Galchenyuk for literally anything you can get for him? wtf does keeping him on this team do vs giving somebody in Iowa a chance? If you want him next year, re-sign him as a FA, makes zero sense to me…

Ice Cap wrote:

Once the Parise deal was lit it’s almost worse if it dosen’t go through. What’s Parise going to say to the media now? Gee I’m really glad I’m still in a member of the Wild even though I waved my ntc to get out of here. Same going the other way what does Billy G say?

The NHL closed its doors for 4 months with tons of fans claiming they’re done with the NHL and people came back in bigger numbers than before. This will be forgotten by tomorrow.

Onward we go. We will see what Billy can do with all the parts and pieces he has in spring. I’m sure he will give the media some statement that will give us a little more insight as to what was going on in the background today.

jeff_huberty wrote:

This is where it fell apart for you last year when you railed against any changes. If there are more changes coming hope you can find it within yourself to stick around this time.

Oh really? How many of those trades actually worked out to benefit this organization?

A logical person would understand the trepidation.

The statement I saw was that there wasn’t enough time to get it all figured out. My guess is that salary was the hot topic.