MN Wild 2019-2020 Official Thread

  • mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1914404

    Does this potentially change things…??? I just learned that Alex Galchenyuk speaks 3 languages with one of them being…wait for it…RUSSIAN. No joke!
    Hmmm what better person to center a line with a Russian phenom who speaks little English?

    Well he was playing alongside Malkin until relegated to the 4th line, so there is that.

    One thing is for sure, this trade sure has awaken a lot of you guys when it was going stale grin

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17599
    #1914405

    I pegged Spurgeon as an extremely low chance to get traded and only mentioned it because he would return significant value. He’s a Canadian and if the Leafs made an offer that would work for both sides, I bet you he’d think long and hard about lifting his NTC for a chance to play in Toronto…

    Toronto is looking for an established Right shot offensive defenseman with a locked in contract, Spurgeon & Dumba fit that bill…a return of Kapanen, prospects and other high draft picks could look tempting and then you resign Brodin to an extension.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22332
    #1914411

    I pegged Spurgeon as an extremely low chance to get traded and only mentioned it because he would return significant value. He’s a Canadian and if the Leafs made an offer that would work for both sides, I bet you he’d think long and hard about lifting his NTC for a chance to play in Toronto…

    Toronto is looking for an established Right shot offensive defenseman with a locked in contract, Spurgeon & Dumba fit that bill…a return of Kapanen, prospects and other high draft picks could look tempting and then you resign Brodin to an extension.

    I would guess most Canadians would love to play in Toronto will all the history, but being from Alberta and a suburb of Edmonton, I would think Spurgeon would prefer the Oilers. Just my though having no inside information at all.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1914412

    One thing is for sure, this trade sure has awaken a lot of you guys when it was going stale

    Finally some news that doesn’t leave us scratching our heads. Lots of positive options and possibilities with this move.

    I think it could mark a relatively sharp turnaround for this team.

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2151
    #1914415

    Here’s a little write up from the Hockey News and they seem pretty high on Addison and perhaps rightfully so. But I also remember the Hockey News declared that once Grandlund, Coyle, Dumba and Brodin reached the NHL the Wild would become a Cup winning dynasty and go on a run like the Black Hawks! hah
    None the less exciting times!

    “We’ve got a trade, folks – and it has serious prospect implications. The Minnesota Wild acquired defenseman Calen Addison and a 2020 first-rounder in part of a deal that also saw Alex Galchenyuk go to Minnesota and Jason Zucker head to Pittsburgh. From a Wild perspective, Addison brings an excellent new-school game to the back end with plenty of offense, but also a competitive spirit that allows the undersized D-man to battle in his own end. Addison was loved by Team Canada’s coaching staff at the world juniors in Ostrava, where he helped the team win gold with nine points in seven games. Addison likely will need one year in the AHL in order to get stronger, but he’s a high-end catch.

    On the flip side, why does Pittsburgh hate their scouts so much? I kid, because I know this trade was made to maximize the Crosby/Malkin championship window, but seriously: the Penguins have only made one first-round selection in the past five drafts (Samuel Poulin, 2019) and none of their top picks in the other four drafts are with the organization anymore.”

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11026
    #1914455

    Honestly I prefer defensman to be somewhat invisible. If you hear a defenseman’s name mentioned more often than not it’s because they got beat or missed their assignment. Dumba has a heck of a shot and he knows it but too often it works to his detriment because he wants to use that shot first. I’ve noticed him more often letting loose from just inside the blue line only to have it deflect off a skate half way in. More times than not that shot winds up on the opposing players stick going the other way. When he could have pushed it deeper in the zone to get some offensive zone time. He’s pressing to score. He got a taste of it last year and now it’s in his head.

    I agree on keeping Spurgeon over Dumba. He’s obviously the better defensive player and he has plenty of offensive skill. Can play on the PP, jumps up in the play at the correct time (unlike Dumba), and actually hits the net when he shoots. I think his offensive side has been down a little this year because the whole team’s offense has been down.

    I’m not convinced Dumba gets back to an elite level offensive defenseman and his defense isn’t good enough to make him worthwhile if he isn’t an elite scoring defenseman.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1914456

    With this move and the trade deadline fast approaching where does this go? As a Veteran player on this club you have to be asking yourself do you think that you will have a “CHANCE” to win a Cup before your time is up? Or are you willing to give it another chance some where else?
    Stall- Folingo- Koivou?
    Suter? A formidable defenseman for a team looking to up-grade? Can another team find value in him and the remainder of his term?
    Parise? Unlikely
    Brodin? moast likely D

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22332
    #1914464

    Im sure a contending team could find value in Suter even with his contract, the scary part for me is he that were to happen and his career ended early, that falls back on the Wild for salary cap recapture penalty (for he or Parise). For this reason I dont think that they would even be shopped around much by the Wild. I will also say this about Suter, I get this impression that winning a Cup while it would be great to him, I dont think he stresses about father time ticking away and his days remaining and opining about a Cup run. He doesnt seem like the type. Now Parise on the other hand, absolutely! He even stated so much this past offseason.

    Staal, I dont think he would be too happy about getting traded. Koivu, doesnt want to play anywhere else, this is likely his swan song because I dont think there is anyway he is offered another contract.
    Foligno, would go in a hearbeat and there are a lot of teams interested in him.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11026
    #1914478

    I will also say this about Suter, I get this impression that winning a Cup while it would be great to him, I dont think he stresses about father time ticking away and his days remaining and opining about a Cup run. He doesnt seem like the type.

    I’ve always said Suter is the Joe Mauer of hockey so that would make perfect sense. jester

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1914546

    With this move and the trade deadline fast approaching where does this go?

    BG flat out said they intend to make the playoffs. He also said if there is quit, there will be more trades.

    That’s what makes this trade so good. He gave up Zucker for a good player in return, plus some huge assets.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11026
    #1914547

    Ryan Reaves, the last true goon in the NHL……Good for the Wild to put two quick ones on the board after all his BS.

    deertracker
    Posts: 9169
    #1914560

    I’m liking when the camera shows our bench tonight….
    DT

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17599
    #1914576

    Ryan Reaves, the last true goon in the NHL……Good for the Wild to put two quick ones on the board after all his BS.

    I don’t like his cocky & disrespectful attitude on the ice, but he’ll continue to be that way until somebody shuts him up, hasn’t happened yet since he’s been in the league…Tom Wilson has been about the only player I’ve seen take him on physically…

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2151
    #1914603

    The Wild for what ever reason really has the Golden Knights number. 3 point night for Fiala and the boys had their skates laced up tight. Stalock looked good as well. I guess they got the memo that Billy G did not want to see any quit. I get the impression that when Billy says that he darn well means it.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17599
    #1914624

    totally different look to the team last night, Fiala seems to set the tempo and the rest of the players follow him…we’ll see if that was a byproduct of the trade or this team’s new identity…Galchenyuk looked like he just didn’t want to make a mistake last night when on the ice, so it will take him a few games to get settled as well..

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22332
    #1914630

    With all the dang penalties it was hard to get a good look at Galchenyuk. He did have a few shots and 1 real nice 1 timer from Spurgeon I believe on the PP.
    From what I saw of Zucker last night he didnt look good and as speedy as we all thought he was he got passed by Crosby on a line rush.
    I still think he is going to do really well in Pittsburgh. He is in a better spot than he was here for sure. They are a contending team now and the Wild are just clawing to try to be in the conversation.
    As dirty as Reaves was last night that cup check by Dumba was some dirty stuff. I have no doubt he is going to get a fine and possibly a suspension for that. It sure seemed like a direct shot to the nads, but the camera angles were not the best either so maybe it wasnt as bad as I thought.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1914646

    I guess they got the memo that Billy G did not want to see any quit. I get the impression that when Billy says that he darn well means it.

    That quote on the NHL network from B.G. was great. First time in a long long line of GM’s to publicly put the Wild players on notice, “We expect everyone on the roster to compete for a spot in the playoffs,if you let up on the gas we will Know” waytogo

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11026
    #1914653

    With all the dang penalties it was hard to get a good look at Galchenyuk. He did have a few shots and 1 real nice 1 timer from Spurgeon I believe on the PP.
    From what I saw of Zucker last night he didnt look good and as speedy as we all thought he was he got passed by Crosby on a line rush.
    I still think he is going to do really well in Pittsburgh. He is in a better spot than he was here for sure. They are a contending team now and the Wild are just clawing to try to be in the conversation.
    As dirty as Reaves was last night that cup check by Dumba was some dirty stuff. I have no doubt he is going to get a fine and possibly a suspension for that. It sure seemed like a direct shot to the nads, but the camera angles were not the best either so maybe it wasnt as bad as I thought.

    I was happy to see Dumba give Reaves rocks a blast. I hate that guy. He trying to take Koivu and others out the whole first period and Dumba put an end to it. Personally I wouldn’t care if somebody boarded Reaves and knocked him out of the game. He’s only out there to hurt people. It’s nice to see the Wild standing up for themselves a little more lately.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5747
    #1914676

    So far so good for BG. Definitely hope the new attitude sticks.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1914677

    Zucker did look like he was playing a safe game and trying to figure things out. I’m sure he’ll come along. It has to be hard to jump into the #1 line on a team, nevermind with Crosby and Hornquist.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1914695
    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1914702

    Lol, I like Kevin Hayes now.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17599
    #1914730

    TSN’s Darren Dreger is reporting that Billy G is listening to offers for Dumba or Brodin and the expected return to the Wild is a 1st line center or a 2nd line center and additional compensation…

    He said the Wild has already received some interesting offers from teams (I would guess the Leafs and Hurricanes have offered) but BillyG is sticking to his guns and not backing down on expected compensation. Carolina’s 2 top prospects are legit future #1/2 centers (Martin Necas and Ryan Suzuki) and Toronto could possibly part with Nylander who plays center at times…just speculating but I could see Dumba going to Carolina for Necas or Suzuki and either of their 1st round picks & possibly other round picks…

    Now I can’t see any team giving up their #1 center before a playoff run, possibly their #2 center if they have enough depth, but these types of trades typically happen in the summertime so if nobody is traded at the deadline, that’s most likely the reason and stay tuned for the draft…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22332
    #1914737

    The Leafs and Canes both need D help. The team that could be a dark horse is Florida. I think Trocheck would be a good get. When healthy he is definitely a #2 center and possibly #1 especially on this team. He is only 26 so he has some run left on him. Been dinged up a bit the last couple years.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17599
    #1914739

    The Leafs and Canes both need D help. The team that could be a dark horse is Florida. I think Trocheck would be a good get. When healthy he is definitely a #2 center and possibly #1 especially on this team. He is only 26 so he has some run left on him. Been dinged up a bit the last couple years.

    His size (for a center) and injury history scare me…I would also like to go with a youth movement (and cost control) and try to get one of those Center prospects from Carolina (preferably Suzuki) and their Leafs 1st round pick, maybe even take on Haula’s contract to help the money work and then try to resign him this offseason to be our #2/#3 center until the young guys are ready? (he’s a UFA)

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1914746

    A #1 center for dumba or a #2 for brodin? Seems like a stretch to me.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22332
    #1914755

    A #1 center for dumba or a #2 for brodin? Seems like a stretch to me.

    You forgot the draft pics and/or prospects too. -)
    I think the Zucker trade just set the market really. Dumba and Brodin IMO would require more in return than Zucker did.
    Guerin will undoubtedly require the moon to move either of them, but will he get it? Who knows. I dont know a team in their right mind that is a contender that would give up a #1 or #2 center TBH.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22332
    #1914756

    Dumba fined $5k for his cup check…

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17599
    #1914759

    I don’t see that ask for a team’s current #1 center because as you said, teams don’t give those players up…I see it as high-end prospects that project to be a #1/#2 center in a few years or in Toronto’s case, William Nylander who currently plays wing, but has played Center for the majority of his hockey career and could easily move back.

    I could absolutely see an offensively stacked team like Toronto giving up an top offensive player for a defensive player they think they are lacking. Dumba checks all of their boxes… I’d be willing to bet they offered Kapanen and a 1st but BillyG said No… Kapanen wouldn’t work for us, we just gave up Zucker due to not enough top6 wing slots.

    Ice Cap
    Posts: 2151
    #1914776

    From what I saw of Zucker last night he didnt look good and as speedy as we all thought he was he got passed by Crosby on a line rush.

    Maybe Zucker isn’t all that fast after all. He was just the fastest guy on a slow team?

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