<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>basseyes wrote:</div>
Coach, gm, owner, vets, rookies, goalie, doesn’t matter. The team has no leadership, hasn’t for year’s. That was glaringly obvious in the playoff one and done’s.So with leadership they would’ve had a cup by now?
The reason they haven’t won a cup is because they haven’t been good enough, on paper or on the ice.
Your are so right, it is all just a lack of talent. Couldn’t agree more.
It’s humorous to see all the staunch defenders of past Wild seasons now using the same views several of us have been pointing out over those same years.
TMSF to the core. Since you declare every season that the Wild don’t win the cup to be an abject failure, it’s easy for you to declare yourself to have been right all along about this team. What you’ve been “pointing out” is always long on vague generalities and short on specifics that could actually be accomplished under the current CBA and contracts.
In fact, you’ve been wrong more than you’ve been right about this team. For years you’ve been declaring that the end is nigh, the team is doomed, blow it up, etc. As the Wild made the playoffs year after year after year, you kept doubling down and losing your bet, so now after years of being wrong you’re finally right, eh? TMSF.
Those of us that don’t suffer from TMSF syndrome blame the worthless trades, bad draft picks and underachieving youth for the majority of these problems. Fact is, there are very few teams without albatross contracts that inhibit trade and free agent market freedom.
100% correct. Totally agree, but this is a nuance that the TMSF’ers will never understand. This isn’t fantasy sports where you can dump your whole roster every year and start fresh next season.
You have to be able to win in spite of contracts you’d like NOT to have signed now that hindsight tells you so. They also have to sign contracts that will make players hard to move. EVERY team has those contracts, every team has aging vets, and every team with a so-called “superstar” still has to find a way to win when Mr. Superstar doesn’t score 3+ goals a game.
Grouse
Where’s the petition to sign to get Bruce fired? after yet another blown lead and OT debacle how can he remain the coach? I don’t need to be an analytics guy to understand that putting #20, #9, #11 or #12 on the ice = OT loss…
It’s just comical that they must be expecting a different outcome with these guys…how many OT losses will it take? How many games does Billy G need to watch before he demands some changes from Bruce?
Lot of people saying this. I have two questions. 1, who else out there would be better? 2, We’ve had 3 or 4 coaches here in the Parise/Suter era and NONE OF THEM have gotten them to play hard. It wouldn’t make any difference who is back there.
In other news, Kahkonen is starting tonight. At least we’ll have something interesting to watch.
Well, I hear Mike Yeo isn’t doing much these days…
Grouse
Well, I hear Mike Yeo isn’t doing much these days…
Grouse
I think you mean, Mike “played a part in the Blues’ Stanley Cup Champs season” Yeo.
No matter what your hockey IQ or level of interest as a fan is, it’ll be a long time till something positive happens baring a miracle. And Minnesota pro sports teams don’t get many of those.
Hanging all the hopes on the Russian is no different than hanging them on RS and ZP. He could help, but he ain’t winning a cup by himself.
I think you mean, Mike “played a part in the Blues’ Stanley Cup Champs season” Yeo.
Me and JH are going with this…
On a side note….Carter is a nice addition to the commentary. Greenlay was awful
Would’ve rather seen Lapanta gone than Greenlay personally.
Would’ve rather seen Lapanta gone than Greenlay personally.
x6
Is it just me or is Fiala the best player on the ice this game, again?
He’s 23 and his best hockey is ahead of him. I think he’s going to be the only good thing Fenton did. Now if that Donato guy could figure his crap out.
Is it just me or is Fiala the best player on the ice this game, again?
Another game with him flying around the ice. Sure wish Zucker would start doing that again…..
Been a persistent problem getting all the boys to be flying and firing the puck at the same time. Seems we always have one or two playing like they mean it and the rest are logging ice time.
Ahhhh…. now this is the pulse I’ve come to expect from a MN Wild thread!
Lot of people saying this. I have two questions. 1, who else out there would be better? 2, We’ve had 3 or 4 coaches here in the Parise/Suter era and NONE OF THEM have gotten them to play hard. It wouldn’t make any difference who is back there.
Have to agree with this. You think out of a little self respect they would waive their no-trade clause and move on. Just gracefully admit it didn’t work out and at least salvage their legacy to some extent rather than watching it all swirl around the toilet the next few years.
If you were in an actual rebuild, vs waiting out the contract hospice care for the 3 vets, fans might be more tolerant. But now it’s gunna get ugly and the finger pointing is starting to escalate. Coach, gm, owner, vets, rookies, goalie, doesn’t matter. The team has no leadership, hasn’t for year’s.
Also this. Waiting out the contract hospice… good call!
In fact, you’ve been wrong more than you’ve been right about this team. For years you’ve been declaring that the end is nigh, the team is doomed, blow it up, etc. As the Wild made the playoffs year after year after year, you kept doubling down and losing your bet, so now after years of being wrong you’re finally right, eh? TMSF.
biggill wrote:
Those of us that don’t suffer from TMSF syndrome blame the worthless trades, bad draft picks and underachieving youth for the majority of these problems. Fact is, there are very few teams without albatross contracts that inhibit trade and free agent market freedom.
Straight from the TMSF Dynamic Duo both of whom went and hid for several months over a simple over or under trade deadline challenge.
Hoorah! Hoorah! 
The Wild made the playoffs with minimal chances of going further than the first round. 
If your grand boisterous prognistications carried any semblence of reason, why then is the owner now on his third General manager in the past three seasons? Should he not feel satisfied with the status quo then? Should he not be Happy that the box office till is still ringing? Why all the changes when he could be sitting at the till and watch the money flow in?
Heads up here! Buisness owners pay attention to their customers!
The owner can see his product is not selling, the team merchandise is not selling,consessions are dwindling,ticket sales are falling.
Next time you ever actually get to a game,take a look around at all the empty seats.
Going to be interesting to see what happens when Dubnyk comes back from this family leave. I’m not sure you can go back to him. The team looks completely different with Stalock in the net. You also haven’t seen the soft goals let in that breaks this team’s back in the middle of games since he’s been gone.
No denying it they have been playing well as of late. Pushed some good teams into ot and crushed a bad Ottowa team last night. I don’t know if it’s the goal tender change or what. At least they are keeping it interesting.
Wild are on a nice little Worst to first run and gaining momentum 
They should keep riding Stalock…. team seems to be feeding off of him.
Ahhhh…. now this is the pulse I’ve come to expect from a MN Wild thread!
Have to agree with this. You think out of a little self respect they would waive their no-trade clause and move on. Just gracefully admit it didn’t work out and at least salvage their legacy to some extent rather than watching it all swirl around the toilet the next few years.
If the bottom completely falls out I think Parise would consider waiving his, but their contract situations turn into a dang nightmare for the Wild should they be shipped away and retire before the end of the contracts because of the cap recapture. I am sure you could find a team willing to take them on, but that is because there is really no risk to them if they do it. They are just eating up cap space for them. Should they retire early the Wild are the ones getting penalized.
I dont think there is any chance Suter would waive his no move. He doesnt want to leave and I honestly dont think winning a Cup is the be all end all to him. Parise, you can see that he wants that. He pours his heart and soul to nearly every shift and he came oh so close to winning one with NJ, he knows what the ride is like. Same cannot be said for Suter.
The Wild are quietly playing very well and the good thing is they are winning at home compared to last year. Woof, that was a bad home record.
Guerin is meeting with Kaprisov and his agent today or tomorrow I believe. He will also be scouting other players while there.
They should keep riding Stalock…. team seems to be feeding off of him.
Agreed. Have you noticed how Stalock doesnt run around the rink playing the puck so much? I think that has really settled him down a bit.
They actually appeared to have some sort of plan going into OT yesterday, first time I’ve ever seen this from the team…Fiala has looked much more comfortable out there lately and his skillset is starting to show. This recent hot streak is really giving fits for those of us (“me”) who want this team to fail this year to ensure a top draft pick, but its hard to argue they haven’t improved immensely over the past 10 games and got points from some of the leagues best teams…
Billy G is in mother Russia this week to watch Kaprizov (he has a game vs SKA today) and the plan is to have dinner with Kiril and his agent tonight and discuss his future so hopefully we finally get a definitive answer that he’s coming next year when he gets back….
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>lindyrig79 wrote:</div>
Ahhhh…. now this is the pulse I’ve come to expect from a MN Wild thread!Have to agree with this. You think out of a little self respect they would waive their no-trade clause and move on. Just gracefully admit it didn’t work out and at least salvage their legacy to some extent rather than watching it all swirl around the toilet the next few years.
If the bottom completely falls out I think Parise would consider waiving his, but their contract situations turn into a dang nightmare for the Wild should they be shipped away and retire before the end of the contracts because of the cap recapture. I am sure you could find a team willing to take them on, but that is because there is really no risk to them if they do it. They are just eating up cap space for them. Should they retire early the Wild are the ones getting penalized.
This 100%, we’re almost better off just keeping them as we would need to keep that Cap-Recapture $$ on the books just in-case they retire early anyways…I don’t think either would lift their NTC, they both have families (kids in school) and homes in MN and no contending team is gonna take on that large a cap hit for aging players and why would they go to a crappy team that does have cap space vs just stay with the Wild? I see Suter still being a servicable player at the end of his contract, but I don’t think Parise’s body will hold up that long…
Holy crap Fiala got them through the OT period yesterday. He was the only player on the team that could get any separation from defenders and he carried them through OT. He looks so good right now and from the way Bruce was talking about him I wasn’t sure he’d be on the team a whole lot longer. Really nice to see him pick up his game. Even Donato has a looked a little more capable lately. Nice to have Foligno back as well. He played a nice game.
Holy crap Fiala got them through the OT period yesterday. He was the only player on the team that could get any separation from defenders and he carried them through OT. He looks so good right now and from the way Bruce was talking about him I wasn’t sure he’d be on the team a whole lot longer. Really nice to see him pick up his game. Even Donato has a looked a little more capable lately. Nice to have Foligno back as well. He played a nice game.
Absolutely…The more I think about Fiala’s time in MN, the more its starting to make sense.. He was an 18 year old when he broke out in Nashville, then at 20 years old has a terrible leg injury in the playoffs. He then gets traded less than a year later after most told him he was one of the young cornerstone pieces for the Predators and has the new GM hype him up as a “Game Changer” franchise player going into a RFA contract off season. He then misses training camp because of said contract and looks lost the first month of the season… Honestly that’s alot for a young kid to deal with… It looks like everything is past him now and we’re seeing the type of player most thought he could be and worthly of an even swap with Granlund…
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>lindyrig79 wrote:</div>
They should keep riding Stalock…. team seems to be feeding off of him.Agreed. Have you noticed how Stalock doesnt run around the rink playing the puck so much? I think that has really settled him down a bit.
Having SkilletMitt off the roster for a little bit has opened up consistent playing time for Stalock. He’s been able to calm himself down in the net and not look so frantic. Made some good saves, couple bad goals, but not the soft goals that SkilletMitt seems to consistently let in.
I was sad to hear that Dubnyk’s wife is not well. I was honestly hoping he was taking personal time off to see a shrink to get his head right and do some catching work.
Well, just another 2 games and another two wins for this “terrible” hockey club.
I was at the Ottowa game and could just see after the 4 near misses in the first that the bottle was going to come uncorked. The frustration was evident and it was only a matter of time before they broke that one open. Fun to watch a good effort despite a bad opponent.
On to the Team Rustlers.
And all the TMSFs out there must be just scratching their heads. That lazy, worthless, good-for-nothing Parise scores a late-game highlight reel, home run swing goal to tie the game and set the Wild up for the W against the Texass Team Rustlers. Lord, if only we could get rid of him!
But wait TMSF’ers, it get sooooo much worse. Then that stoic, leadership-challenged, emotionless, slow, aging Finnlander captain who is way, way, way past it, and we should have ditched 500 games ago, scores the game-winner, in the shootout, and using The Koivu Move that everyone knows is coming and is the worst, most predictable move in all of shootout history and it never works, either.
Do you guys think maybe Bruce had ’em working a little on the 3/3 OT for a while in the past week. I had to laugh, man it was pretty obvious that Brucie blew a gasket on them in the closed practice sessions this week and what a difference a good skate up the arse makes, eh?
Russo was on TV during the break and as most of you probably saw, he reports that all signs from Kaprisov’s agent is that he WILL be playing in the NHL next season. There doesn’t seem to be the slightest hint of him re-upping in the KHL.
Grouse
Fiala has been the best player on the ice the past few games. I feel him and zp compliment eachothers games quite well. Sucks about dubs but yes how do you relegate stalock?
Do you guys think maybe Bruce had ’em working a little on the 3/3 OT for a while in the past week. I had to laugh, man it was pretty obvious that Brucie blew a gasket on them in the closed practice sessions this week and what a difference a good skate up the arse makes, eh?
Bruce has been here for 3 years and the Wild have pretty much been poor in OT the entire time. But yeah… must have been the “pep talk” old Brucie finally gave those boys. Too funny.
I was at the Ottowa game and could just see after the 4 near misses in the first that the bottle was going to come uncorked. The frustration was evident and it was only a matter of time before they broke that one open. Fun to watch a good effort despite a bad opponent.
On to the Team Rustlers.
And all the TMSFs out there must be just scratching their heads. That lazy, worthless, good-for-nothing Parise scores a late-game highlight reel, home run swing goal to tie the game and set the Wild up for the W against the Texass Team Rustlers. Lord, if only we could get rid of him!
But wait TMSF’ers, it get sooooo much worse. Then that stoic, leadership-challenged, emotionless, slow, aging Finnlander captain who is way, way, way past it, and we should have ditched 500 games ago, scores the game-winner, in the shootout, and using The Koivu Move that everyone knows is coming and is the worst, most predictable move in all of shootout history and it never works, either.
Ottawa looked absolutely terrible that entire game, no wonder they’ve been a league bottom feeder for so long…we should have had at least 10 goals that game…
Yes, Parise scored a nice goal and (like the rest of the team) has played a very good 10 game stretch, but you can’t say he didn’t look absolutely terrible the first 10 games to start the season?
and Bruce even joked in the post game presser that Koivu hasn’t scored in the shootout in like two years, but he thought what the hell, it’s his 1,0000th game and put him out there…
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