MN Wild 2019-2020 Official Thread

JoeMX1825 wrote:

we don’t have the farm system yet to replenish the perceived talent.

This is true, we dont seem to have anyone in Iowa that could really be put in our roster to make any big difference, but there are some promising signs from our other prospects who are not in Iowa. Hentges is really playing well. Johnsson that completely blundered first round pick last year had his first 2 goals last week and Khovanov is putting up points as well. There are some promising signs, but agreed, nowhere near ready for NHL yet.

The only way things change is if we continue to do what we’ve been doing lately and lose, get a top pick in the draft and hopefully strike gold on prospects that can carry this team through the upcoming years when Parise, Suter and Zuccarrello slow down to the point that their contracts are just anchors. I don’t think we’re there yet, but Parise is showing signs already…

The draft is the only way we get better, no chance we sign any worthwhile FA’s now that we’re definitely rebuilding the next few years (unless we really overpay)…Next season will be a big swing year for the franchise, Guerin’s vision for the team will start, Koivu leadership change, potential top pick, will Kaprizov succeed in the NHL and will the new young core take the next step?

I sort of agree. I think this team has a decent young core foundation and can build off of them to build a very strong team. They have some youn-ish player that can be considered veterans that can help in the experience aspect.

I don’t think they are far off of getting back on the horse. Just need a GM with a pulse.

I think you should hope for a top team to have it’s goalie go down for the season and then you can trade off Dubnyk for some good value.

The next two drafts will tell the story of this team moving forward, if we can be picking in the top of each round that can fill some holes quickly…The past two drafts have had some hail mary picks that look to be good, we just can’t miss on the 1st & 2nd rounders anymore…Cole Caufield is one a goal a game pace at Wisconsin after 8 games, Matt Boldy finally got his first point in his 6th game…

Top 2 picks this year are potential franchise players, either would look great in a Wild uniform…

Im not convinced that Caufield is going to survive in the NHL. He is tiny. Way smaller than the other small skilled guys who are making a name for themselves right now.
If somehow the Wild luck into getting the #1 overall pick in the draft it would be great to think about a generational type player you can get at that spot.
I watch McDavid on a nightly basis and how is he is able to just skate around anyone while handling the puck like they are not even moving. I cannot imagine what it would be like to have that sort of speed. Reminds me of when Modano played and his jersey flapping.

mplspug wrote:

I think you should hope for a top team to have it’s goalie go down for the season and then you can trade off Dubnyk for some good value.

I can’t see them getting a whole lot for Dubnyk the way he’s playing. I guess if someone is desperate but they need to hope he goes on a run and then I’d say trade him while his value is high. The team isn’t going on a playoff run anytime soon and Dubnyk can’t take us on one anyway.

A rare win last night even after being down! They will probably play just good enough to keep them out of a top draft pick but just not good enough to give you any real hope or excitement in watching them.

mahtofire14 wrote:

I can’t see them getting a whole lot for Dubnyk the way he’s playing. I guess if someone is desperate but they need to hope he goes on a run and then I’d say trade him while his value is high. The team isn’t going on a playoff run anytime soon and Dubnyk can’t take us on one anyway.

Get what you can for him, there is no need to waste money on the last year of his contract. That’s all I am saying.

Koivu, Staal, Dubnyk, and Patryn should all be dealt this year, either whenever possible or at the deadline…Koivu and Staal should be able to fetch a decent draft pick return as they are 2nd/3rd line serviceable centers who can help a cup contending team before they hang them up…Dubnyk’s value will be determined by market availability, but his playoff record doesn’t help… Patryn is just a depth defenseman who will bring back a late round draft pick…

Go with Kaapo and Stalock next year and see what they do, go the FA route if they can’t handle being a #1….

mplspug wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
I can’t see them getting a whole lot for Dubnyk the way he’s playing. I guess if someone is desperate but they need to hope he goes on a run and then I’d say trade him while his value is high. The team isn’t going on a playoff run anytime soon and Dubnyk can’t take us on one anyway.

Get what you can for him, there is no need to waste money on the last year of his contract. That’s all I am saying.

Agree. No reason to keep Dubnyk around.

mplspug wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
I can’t see them getting a whole lot for Dubnyk the way he’s playing. I guess if someone is desperate but they need to hope he goes on a run and then I’d say trade him while his value is high. The team isn’t going on a playoff run anytime soon and Dubnyk can’t take us on one anyway.

Get what you can for him, there is no need to waste money on the last year of his contract. That’s all I am saying.

Definitely. I totally agree with that.

lindyrig79 wrote:

Get what you can for him, there is no need to waste money on the last year of his contract. That’s all I am saying.

Agree. No reason to keep Dubnyk around.
Absolutely and I think we have some young goalies in the pipeline that can hopefully step up in the next couple years. Might be painful for a while and I think we should target a veteran free agent too, but there will be someone who values Dubnyk if there are injuries down the stretch for a playoff run.

CaptainMusky wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>lindyrig79 wrote:</div>
Get what you can for him, there is no need to waste money on the last year of his contract. That’s all I am saying.

Agree. No reason to keep Dubnyk around.
Absolutely and I think we have some young goalies in the pipeline that can hopefully step up in the next couple years. Might be painful for a while and I think we should target a veteran free agent too, but there will be someone who values Dubnyk if there are injuries down the stretch for a playoff run.

That Kaakonen (spelling?) is 6-0 with a respectable GAA and Save % so far.

mahtofire14 wrote:

That Kaakonen (spelling?) is 6-0 with a respectable GAA and Save % so far.

Hunter Jones (not in Iowa) is also playing really well. He was the guy they traded up for in the draft to get this year. Regarded by many as the best goalie prospect in the draft.
Mat Robson hasnt seen the ice much in Iowa, but has played well. All 3 of these guys could turn into a starter, but as we know with goalies that takes time.
Binnington bounced around the minors for years before bursting on the scene last year.
Guerin will have some options, but I hope he rides it out up to the deadline before doing anything because that is when demand will be at its highest unless of course some contending team loses a key player for the season beforehand.

CaptainMusky wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
That Kaakonen (spelling?) is 6-0 with a respectable GAA and Save % so far.

Guerin will have some options, but I hope he rides it out up to the deadline before doing anything because that is when demand will be at its highest unless of course some contending team loses a key player for the season beforehand.

I don’t see Guerin doing anything much before the deadline. At least nothing rash. He don’t want to do anything knee jerk too soon and then have it come back and bite him in the a$$. Unless a golden opportunity should present itself of course but that’s highly unlikely. Besides they’ve won a couple in a row and arguably seem to be playing better. Sit tight.

Best 30-35 maybe 40 minute team in Hockey.

jeff_huberty wrote:

Best 30-35 maybe 40 minute team in Hockey.

They’re holding back so they can be the best 60 minute team in the finals.

just keep losing boys…nice to see Donato finally get on the board though…I think this was alot more to do with the Sharks getting the huge league early and just lazily sitting on it vs the Wild really doing anything…

We now have the worst record in the NHL, just stay the course Wild, just stay the course…

our new favorite website – http://www.tankathon.com/nhl/mock_draft

Sad thing is that it took me 15 or so mock draft runs before the Wild actually moved up…even the algorithm hates us…of course the Blackhawks moved up multiple times..

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Should’ve traded Dubnyk the second PJ Fleck stepped on the practice rink in full pads and signed him to a contract. At least he could get the team motivated….Now that I think of it, even he might not be able to get this group motivated.

Yep, worst team in the NHL right now

I swear I’m having flashbacks every time I watch this team in overtime.

Lose face off, let the opposing team skate around with the puck getting a few chances for the first minute. Wild get the puck off a bad Dubnyk rebound and skate around aimlessly in own zone for another minute, lose the puck on an awful pass from Suter or a shot that is nowhere near on goal. Opposing team gets puck comes down on 2 on 1 and beats Dubnyk blocker side with an average wrist shot.

Are any of the top 5 picks going to be NHL ready in 2020? The Wild need help NOW, not in 3-4 years.

Boy, that clustf####D R-1 pick in 2018 by Fecktard Fenton sure looms large now, doesn’t it? Wow. Yeah. We sure could use another d man… Said absolutely nobody but Fenton.

Grouse

mahtofire14 wrote:

I swear I’m having flashbacks every time I watch this team in overtime.

Lose face off, let the opposing team skate around with the puck getting a few chances for the first minute. Wild get the puck off a bad Dubnyk rebound and skate around aimlessly in own zone for another minute, lose the puck on an awful pass from Suter or a shot that is nowhere near on goal. Opposing team gets puck comes down on 2 on 1 and beats Dubnyk blocker side with an average wrist shot.

Agree. They are absolutely, positively, painful to watch in overtime.

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

Are any of the top 5 picks going to be NHL ready in 2020?

No need to check the standings, pretty obvious where this team sits when we’re talking draft in November.

mahtofire14 wrote:

I swear I’m having flashbacks every time I watch this team in overtime.

Lose face off, let the opposing team skate around with the puck getting a few chances for the first minute. Wild get the puck off a bad Dubnyk rebound and skate around aimlessly in own zone for another minute, lose the puck on an awful pass from Suter or a shot that is nowhere near on goal. Opposing team gets puck comes down on 2 on 1 and beats Dubnyk blocker side with an average wrist shot.

pretty accurate but you forgot to add the 2nd common scenario where a tired player (usually Koivu, Zucker or Parise) comes off the ice on a terrible line shift that then leads to a 3-1 goal to end it as the new skater off the bench tries to get back into the play but comes up short…

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

Are any of the top 5 picks going to be NHL ready in 2020? The Wild need help NOW, not in 3-4 years.

Grouse

Lafrenier absolutely is, he’ll likely go #1 overall, then the next 4-5 players are all very highly skilled, but will likely need at least a year to mature…

Dubnyk a healthy scratch tonight. The writing on the wall.

Ice Cap wrote:

Dubnyk a healthy scratch tonight. The writing on the wall.

I read yesterday that it was a private family matter he needed to attend to…

others on this thread have mentioned that we need a starting goalie from another team to go down with injury so we can maximize Dubs value… I do think Guerin wants to move him, but it’s all about getting the most value as his contract is a desirable one (if he can turn his game around)

Tonight’s game will be a good test to see if this recent streak of better play is legit or just the byproduct of catching some teams on off nights…