4 days off and that’s the effort they put out? Sit the vets and call-up the Iowa guys, at least they’ll try…
Its an idea, unfortunately they really cant at this point. Since they did the paper transaction to send greenway, Kunin, Ek to Iowa for that one day to make them eligible for playoffs in Iowa, that consumed 3 of their I believe 4 remaining roster moves. The only thing they can do now is “emergency” moves due to injury.
then sit Suter or Parise, some type of example has to be set for the young guys to let them know this is not accepted…
then sit Suter or Parise, some type of example has to be set for the young guys to let them know this is not accepted…
Absolutely an option. I do think Parise works his ass off however so sitting him I don’t know what that would accomplish.
I really like how Foligno is open and candid about the whole thing. He is the leader this team needs IMO. We get the same clichéd answers from the other talking heads, but he is quite blunt.
It wouldn’t be so dang frustrating if this team wouldn’t give us glimpses of what they COULD be. If they were just abysmal all the time it would be easy to not even care.
Last night was just top to bottom brutal. Zucker is heating up and everyone else went South. Yeah we have a few guys dinged up, Ek being out certainly hurts down the middle, but that effort last night was just plain and simple garbage.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Keith wrote:</div>
Well it will be interesting this off season to see who stays or goes and if Fletcher is inclined to make a splash in free agency.I don’t care what Fletcher does making splashes or not, but I do care about what Fenton does.
I meant Fenton of course. I thought maybe Staal would heat up after Fenton showed some compassion and granted his wish to stay in Minnesota. Apparently now that he doesn’t have to worry about being traded he’s all comfy cozy in the State of Hockey he’s using game time to catch up on his naps.
He obviously wants to stay here for personal and family reasons it certainly can’t be because he thinks this team is on the verge of winning the Cup he can’t possibly be that delusional. But he fits right in with team Mediocre so why not let him hang around I guess.
Unfortunately, on par with Ottawa… Give them a tie for 28th best league home record.
I can’t remember a team playing so poorly at HOME. Gonna need to step it up against Dallas…. must win in my opinion.
I really like how Foligno is open and candid about the whole thing. He is the leader this team needs IMO. We get the same clichéd answers from the other talking heads, but he is quite blunt.
If Folingo is a leader? why is he blaming the young guys for the teams failure. He has been on the team all season when the Veterans were the ones who put this team in a bad spot time and time again.
I think a leader would be on the a55es of the veterans who are the real cause of the Wilds collapse.
If Folingo is a leader? why is he blaming the young guys for the teams failure. He has been on the team all season when the Veterans were the ones who put this team in a bad spot time and time again.
I think a leader would be on the a55es of the veterans who are the real cause of the Wilds collapse.
He didn’t just rip the young guys he ripped everyone. Sure he made a comment about guys “doing their own thing”, but that wasn’t only directed at the young players and he pointed the finger back at himself for not playing better. Do you ever hear that sort of thing out of Suter?
In other news Fenton signed Mat Robson yesterday. I was hoping they would make a run at him. Though his stats may not look overly impressive, he is a very fundamentally sound goalie and once he was eligible to play for the Gophers he really took the #1 role and ran with it. Be interesting to see how he develops because we need goalie prospects because they take so long to fully be NHL ready.
Fiala had a hard to watch game last time out. Numerous turnovers, missed passes tried to skate with the puck when he should shoot taking penalties. Boudreau finally took him off the power play towards the end. I think you will see his ice time diminish going forward.
He has some potential but it sure looks like he needs some coaching and a lot of time.
He looks like he’s playing nervous, trying to hard to do something spectacular with the puck. I think he feels the pressure a bit replacing Granlund and being built up so much by Fenton…
He looks like he’s playing nervous, trying to hard to do something spectacular with the puck. I think he feels the pressure a bit replacing Granlund and being built up so much by Fenton…
When I heard Fenton speak so highly of him I thought oh boy, nice way to put so much pressure on a kid. You can see he has some electric ability for sure, but that is a lot of pressure to put on a young guy who supplanted someone who was so beloved here.
Back from a nearly off-the-grid trip to the wilderness that is freaking Scottsdale. What a technomess that place is, get this you guys, at one point I was seriously thinking about asking if they had any pay phones… Needless to say I did NOT get to watch any of the last 3 Wild games online because online hardly exists in that low bandwidth cactus farm.
Watched the recorded game vs the Islanders and basically the Wild look like an October/November version of a team that had a lot of offseason personnel changes.
Everything looks off by a foot here and 2 feet there, inconsistencies all over the place, young players over playing everything, etc, etc, etc. What we’re seeing now is the risk you run when you make deadline moves and then have injuries on top of them. Shake up all the lines, add new players, take away injured, shuffle the lines a couple of times, and this is what you get.
But I guess the TMSFs are probably going to get what they wanted, the pure joy of missing the playoffs because why bother if you’re not one of the 4 teams the pundits have picked to go to the conf finals?
After the Islanders game, the only net positives I can point to out of the last 3 are:
– Zucker managed, somehow, NOT to break both his legs, tear his ACLs, AND his Achilles on that crash into the boards. I was 104% sure after that crash was shown in slow-mo that he was done for this season and about half of the next. Which would just be par for the Wild’s course right now. I could not believe it when he came back.
– Donato. Unfortunately, this turns into a negative when you look at this acquisition as the one that Fenton got one right. Too bad he’s batting .000 on the other major moves. While it’s terrific fun to watch Donato come into his own, it really worries me that Fenton’s ability to pick talent seems to be somewhere between bad and bloody awful.
Colorado tonight which is fun just because it’s the Avs and we love to poop in the Avs punch bowl every chance we get. Let’s grind thier nose in it one more time.
Grouse
You’re funny Grouse.
Even with all the inconsistencies, the young players, line changes, etc, etc, etc, this is still a better Wild team than before. And that’s saying something how crappy they really were.
If you’re longing for the old Wild team of the first 2/3 of the season…. well I think you are on a small island.
Still hoping they beat Colorado tonight, and make a playoff run… but not really expecting anything of this season. Let the rebuild continue, I say.
I do agree about Donato. The guy is fun to watch and give us some energy which we desperately need.
Do you ever hear that sort of thing out of Suter?
Totally agree. This is one of my gripes about Suter from 20 pages ago. Lack of leadership from the highest paid guy on the team.
If you’re longing for the old Wild team of the first 2/3 of the season…. well I think you are on a small island.
No I’m not freaking longing for the old Wild team. How would you get that idea? It surprises me how many of you missed me calling for Coyle to get gone 3 years ago. And calling for Yeo to get gone 2 years before the Wild actually fired him. And then there were the doubts I voiced about Fletcher…
Maybe I’m out of touch with the TMSF thinking these days, but I thought the whole point of these trades and acquisitions was to get BETTER??? Am I missing something? I don’t see a better team, I see a team that was in a regular playoff spot before the deadline deal-o-rama started and now they have even dropped out of a Wildcard slot.
In my view, so far Fenton has only managed to downgrade this team on average. Maybe some great hockey mind will step in here and show us all how worse is really better and how losing is the new winning.
Also, I love the talk about “rebuilding” as if it gets easier if you just fly the plane into the mountain first. We still have the contracts we have regardless of how we finish this season. Nothing is going to get easier if Fenton keeps making bad trades and urine-poor draft selections.
Grouse
Maybe I’m out of touch with the TMSF thinking these days, but I thought the whole point of these trades and acquisitions was to get BETTER??? Am I missing something? I don’t see a better team, I see a team that was in a regular playoff spot before the deadline deal-o-rama started and now they have even dropped out of a Wildcard slot.
What?? The Wild lost 9/10 games following the All-Star break. They dropped out of a ‘regular playoff spot’ before making all the changes.
Fact is… they were the oldest team in the entire NHL and their play and attitude showed it. Fenton’s hands were tied and in my opinion he has made moves in the right direction. Some good and some not so good, but freeing up cap space and getting the team younger. He’s not going to be able to fix the problem THIS YEAR.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
He looks like he’s playing nervous, trying to hard to do something spectacular with the puck. I think he feels the pressure a bit replacing Granlund and being built up so much by Fenton…When I heard Fenton speak so highly of him I thought oh boy, nice way to put so much pressure on a kid. You can see he has some electric ability for sure, but that is a lot of pressure to put on a young guy who supplanted someone who was so beloved here.
I agree with both of you guys on Fiala. Hopefully the perceived pressure subsides and he can develop.
Kaprizov took a cheap shot elbow to the head/chin 2 days ago and is missing today’s game, injury is my biggest worry as to if/when we’ll get him over here…Lots of goons in the KHL looking to make a name for themselves…
No I’m not freaking longing for the old Wild team. How would you get that idea? It surprises me how many of you missed me calling for Coyle to get gone 3 years ago. And calling for Yeo to get gone 2 years before the Wild actually fired him. And then there were the doubts I voiced about Fletcher
So if those facts Qualify you as the IDO Hockey savant, why do you continue to rail on all others as TMSF.
Are you unable to acknowledge the fact you were off the mark on your other prognostications? And the opinions of those other than yourself?
Maybe I’m out of touch with the TMSF thinking these days, but I thought the whole point of these trades and acquisitions was to get BETTER??? Am I missing something? I don’t see a better team, I see a team that was in a regular playoff spot before the deadline deal-o-rama started and now they have even dropped out of a Wildcard slot.
I acknowledge your takes on Hockey are articulate and well thought out, I just
don’t get why you have such difficulty acknowledging there are other opinions out there that carry as much weight as your own.
Also, I love the talk about “rebuilding” as if it gets easier if you just fly the plane into the mountain first. We still have the contracts we have regardless of how we finish this season. Nothing is going to get easier if Fenton keeps making bad trades and urine-poor draft selections.
The rebuilding of this team will be difficult no doubt, but I like where this team is at now and prefer see the current version over the past version. They still have a good shot at making the playoffs, where the previous version was
going nowhere.
What?? The Wild lost 9/10 games following the All-Star break. They dropped out of a ‘regular playoff spot’ before making all the changes.
Fact is… they were the oldest team in the entire NHL and their play and attitude showed it. Fenton’s hands were tied and in my opinion he has made moves in the right direction. Some good and some not so good, but freeing up cap space and getting the team younger. He’s not going to be able to fix the problem THIS YEAR.
Exactly. Following the moves of Coyle and Nino the Wild went on a 5-0-2 stretch.
I have said this all along, the goal of making a move is to make the team better BUT, that may not be an immediate make better. Take into account all the salary dumped with Coyle, Granlund and Nino? Lots of money saved there that will allow options in the off-season previously not possible. So while the trades MAY not have an immediate dividend, they certainly gave us roster flexibility to make impactful changes and keep guys around at a FAR lower Cap hit.
Donato is playing well, Fiala shows some glimpses, Rask, actually played his best game with us against the Isles. He looked pretty good. Definitely better than he had, so maybe that trend continues.
I’m certainly not saying everything is going to end up rosy, but there are some pieces to work with now. The Bitetto signing is kind of a head scratcher for me though. Its too bad it comes down to either him or Hunt in the lineup. IMO Hunt should be out there every night.
I agree with musky, you got fiala and Donato at 22yo. Their best years are ahead of them and they are guys who like to shoot.
O-ferr ?
Another home Game another home loss, well just when you get your hopes up here comes a home stand and the Wild forget to tie their skate laces.
So the wild announce another 18000 + at tonight’s in the arena attendance figure?
What a crock of BS, you see empty seats throughout Excel and surprise! it is another sellout!!!
And the teams play? with absolute consistency their play was inconsistent.
Hard to figure this team out other than they have no one stepping up and scoring when the team needs it most.
It’s time, would making the playoffs help this team at all? not at this point.
Hopes for a good draft position are fading as quickly as hoping for a playoff spot.
Good game on NBCSN tonight. Bolts met Washington just a couple days ago and it got a little heated. I hope Cernak beats the heck out of Tom Suspension Wilson.
I love how the announcers were saying the Avalanche were the more desperate club.. WTF??
Good game on NBCSN tonight. Bolts met Washington just a couple days ago and it got a little heated. I hope Cernak beats the heck out of Tom Suspension Wilson.
That should be a great tilt for sure!
Kucherov vs Ovie! Vasie vs Holtby.
In a side note, I scored 5 tickets to the Wild vs Preds game Monday on my son’s birthday. He is epically excited. It will be fun to watch Granny and check out the new guys in person.
I love how the announcers were saying the Avalanche were the more desperate club.. WTF??
Greenlay needs to be axed after this season…I can deal with LaPanta’s quirks as I think Greenlay is to blame for alot of them..
The Wild continued to look like a pre-season version of a team last night. They had chance after chance and couldn’t get it done.
At the risk of continuing to be the “anti-change” guy, I will, ummmm, continue to–this is awkward–push for changes.
The Wild need to part ways with Aberg and Rask. The sooner the better. There is no saving them. Time to admit a GM swing/miss with two terrible acquisitions and hit the eject button. Aberg had another brilliant opportunity to double his goal count for the season with the Wild and he…wait for it…missed. Rask. There is nothing to say. Which pretty much says it all.
Fiala I’m going to call Couldbe Fiala from now on. He Couldbe good, or he Couldbe the new Charlie Coyle. Short flashes of good puck handling skill followed by passes that are 3 feet off. It looks exactly like someone suggested a few back, he’s trying to be Granlund and he ain’t. He needs some time in Iowa for seasoning, he’s just not ready and I agree with the other poster who commented about Fenton putting too much pressure on him. He needs to develop and without pressure to hurry to save Fenton from looking bad.
The effort was there, the goals were not. Parise looks great, but he can’t do it alone. Time after time we chipped the puck ahead in the N zone and right to a waiting Colorado d-man. The zone entry connections were totally missing and we just handed the puck back time after time.
We have a lot of missing pieces even when Koivu, Dumba, and Ek are back in the lineup. Not sure of the contract situations with Aberg and Rask, but getting rid of them ASAP and with minimal cap damage will be key, but the problem is this involves an “Ego Walk of Shame” for Fenton. Will he or won’t he?
Grouse
Maybe Rask was traded for with the full intention of just buying him out? According to CapFriendlys buyout calculator, If bought out in July, Rask’s cap hit would only be 1.3 million per season each of the next 6 years, cheaper than Nino would have been…
Because he plays center, my guess is that they were willing to give him 1 more season (fully healthy) to prove himself before pulling the buyout lever…
Aberg was a worthy risk at a time when the team needed something, I agree he just hasn’t taken advantage of his opportunity…
Fenton obviously hit a home run with Donato. Fiala has more points with the Wild than Granlund does with Nashville, but I think Fiala has a much high ceiling and will be much much cheaper on his next contract…
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>lindyrig79 wrote:</div>
I love how the announcers were saying the Avalanche were the more desperate club.. WTF??
Greenlay needs to be axed after this season…I can deal with LaPanta’s quirks as I think Greenlay is to blame for alot of them..
OH MY LANTA, IT’S THAT THE TRUTH!!! They are so terrible I can’t stand to listen to them. 
My wife catches me yelling at them all the time and reminds me that they can’t hear me thru the TV…
I’m not afraid to give these young guys a few years to develop but I’m not counting any chickens either. It’s not unheard of for young players to be inconsistent. It’s also not unheard of for young players to never live up to the expectations fans like to place onto them.
I wouldn’t, however, be disappointed if the Wild could win a home game… 7 home wins since Dec. YIKES!
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