Can the Wild fit his 9 points into the line-up?
If you look at points per game it puts Donato middle of the pack with the Forwards currently on the team.
Only time will tell, it looks to be a good deal for Coyle also going back home.
Hope he does well.
We got the better long term deal for sure.
Hope Coyle can find his stride, it obviously was working here.
So Coyle finally, finally, finally gets dealt after months of speculation all over the place that Boston wanted him.
I have to wonder if the hangup here was that Boston didn’t want to give Danoto up and it took the playoffs bearing down on them to make them value experience first?
As far as upside potential, I think the Wild get both the greater risk and potentially greater reward with this trade. Coyle is who he is. He isn’t going to turn into a 25 goal a year guy just because he can smell Boston Harbor again.
But Donato. Who knows? 22 year old. Great college and Olympic career. Who knows? High risk, but the reward potential is there.
Hopfully this is a sign of Fenton finding his feet, but he also created a problem here. Is Donato really ready or does he need seasoning in Iowa? It would be really bad to burn up the kid’s confidence and future potential with too much baptism by fire if he’s not really NHL ready. But the Wild gave up a current roster seat that now has to be filled…
Also, I read this is the final year of Donato’s entry contract, so now the Wild have an off-season brain teaser. Sign him for how long and how much?
At least this one on the surface looks like Fenton’s trying to be strategic and look longer term. If, of course, it’s really Fenton pusing the buttons…
Grouse
I remember the excitement Coyle brought when he came.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
Can the Wild fit his 9 points into the line-up?If you look at points per game it puts Donato middle of the pack with the Forwards currently on the team.
Only time will tell, it looks to be a good deal for Coyle also going back home.
Hope he does well.
I don’t think I would call 46 career games a particularly large sample size.
I guess the question becomes what will the Wild do at center to close out the season.
I wouldnt write off Donato at all, he played very well in the Olympics and was a top prospect in their system, he’s a center, he knows how to score goals and he’s young, all things the Wild needs then add on top of it a 5th round pick (draft currency or get lucky like we did with Kaprizov 5th rd pick a few years ago). Of course now we get to watch Coyle figure it out and become a good player too, I like the trade!
He was also linemates and I believe roommates with Greenway during the Olympics. Greenway was a stud during the Olympics so perhaps those 2 get reunited?
This also frees up some space cap wise. I think its a good trade. I really wished Coyle would have been more consistent he has a lot of potential.
I am not convinced that this move means Fenton is giving up on this season. He has freed up some money and there is a move or two out there right now that would REALLY help the team this year and for years to come. Question is will we have what it would take to give Ottawa for Duchesne or Stone???
The 5th round pick will become a 4th round pick if the Bruins win their 1st round playoff series, so that looks even better now…
Why give up anything for Duchesne or Stone when you can sign them as a FA in a few months? The “exclusive” signing period is meaningless, they want to be FA’s and get paid…
I think Fenton sees an opportunity to make this team his and it’s not that far off that the Wild would have a shot at the #1 pick, so sell off what he can, play the young guys to see if they have what it takes to play real NHL minutes and if you lose the majority of your games left you get rewarded with a high draft pick to help speed up your rebuild…
I’m all for it
I think Fenton sees an opportunity to make this team his and it’s not that far off that the Wild would have a shot at the #1 pick, so sell off what he can, play the young guys to see if they have what it takes to play real NHL minutes and if you lose the majority of your games left you get rewarded with a high draft pick to help speed up your rebuild…
I’m all for it
Completely agree 
IMO consider this trade is a slight improvement right off the bat, I don’t think it hurts the team at all.
Why give up anything for Duchesne or Stone when you can sign them as a FA in a few months? The “exclusive” signing period is meaningless, they want to be FA’s and get paid…
If you are not willing to give up on this season I would. Waiting until free agency you will undoubtedly get into a bidding war, but acquiring them now you have time to work out a long term deal while seeing them play.
As it sits now the Wild are $14M below the cap for next year, with 8 FA (either RFA or UFA). So, Fenton will undoubtedly be putting his mark on this team quickly.
Now go and send Granlund to Ottawa for a sign and trade for Duchesne.
I am not convinced that this move means Fenton is giving up on this season.
Have you not heard the guy has been crying himself to sleep the last few weeks?
It’s time to let go. They aren’t bringing any big guns in for a run.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>JoeMX1825 wrote:</div>
Why give up anything for Duchesne or Stone when you can sign them as a FA in a few months? The “exclusive” signing period is meaningless, they want to be FA’s and get paid…If you are not willing to give up on this season I would. Waiting until free agency you will undoubtedly get into a bidding war, but acquiring them now you have time to work out a long term deal while seeing them play.
but Duchesne and Stone WANT teams to get into a bidding war, this is the BIG contract in their career, they want to get as much as possible and with the recent contracts like Nylander/Pasternak, they have winnable arguments for getting more than those guys did…
I don’t have a problem with going after Duchesne when FA starts (scoring centers are worth the FA premium imo)
As it sits now the Wild are $14M below the cap for next year, with 8 FA (either RFA or UFA). So, Fenton will undoubtedly be putting his mark on this team quickly.
Now go and send Granlund to Ottawa for a sign and trade for Duchesne.
I don’t see the Wild making any long term FA deals at this time.
I Have not heard to much about the Collective Bargaining Agreement but I think that the Owners or the Players Association could choose to opt out of it this fall. Waiting for a new CBA and the upcoming expansion draft to play out would seem prudent.
If the Wild do not make the playoffs and are truly in a rebuild situation,it would make the most sense to not handcuff the club to long term contracts at this time.
right now the Wild are 11 points ahead of the league worst Ottawa Senators, 8 points ahead of 2nd worst. I know it all comes down to ping pong balls falling, but you have to be in the top 5 worst teams to have a shot at the #1 pick, Hughes isn’t McDavid, but he’s a very skilled offensive player that you could plug into your top 6 sometime next season.
Honestly from a Wild perspective, that’s all i’m paying attention to the rest of the season…The rest of the league has some very intriguing teams that will be fun to watch once the playoffs start, it’s almost the best time of the year to be a hockey fan!
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
I am not convinced that this move means Fenton is giving up on this season.Have you not heard the guy has been crying himself to sleep the last few weeks?
It’s time to let go. They aren’t bringing any big guns in for a run.
Yeah, I had heard that, but I am quite sure that was tongue in cheek. The Wild are out of the playoffs and in last in our Division now. 1 pt back. As bad as they’ve been, they are still in the hunt. If the Wild miss the playoffs no big deal to me. I will still watch every game and TB will be must watch any time their games are televised. They are just ridiculously good.
but Duchesne and Stone WANT teams to get into a bidding war, this is the BIG contract in their career, they want to get as much as possible and with the recent contracts like Nylander/Pasternak, they have winnable arguments for getting more than those guys did…
I don’t have a problem with going after Duchesne when FA starts (scoring centers are worth the FA premium imo)
Oh, I 100% agree with you that is their wish, but they have no say on whether they get traded at this point. I think Ottawa is going to keep Stone, but Duchesne is likely gone. Never cared for the prick with Colorado, but he’s the type of competitor we need.
right now the Wild are 11 points ahead of the league worst Ottawa Senators, 8 points ahead of 2nd worst. I know it all comes down to ping pong balls falling, but you have to be in the top 5 worst teams to have a shot at the #1 pick, Hughes isn’t McDavid, but he’s a very skilled offensive player that you could plug into your top 6 sometime next season.
Honestly from a Wild perspective, that’s all i’m paying attention to the rest of the season…The rest of the league has some very intriguing teams that will be fun to watch once the playoffs start, it’s almost the best time of the year to be a hockey fan!
As much as I would love for the Wild to finally have a pick in the top 5, let alone #1 overall, those picks are a crapshoot many times. You get a Mathews, McDavid every now and again, but there have been more blunders. Personally I like making moves for prospects in other team’s system that you can get your eyes on at another higher level than HS, College, International, etc.
You still need to augment through the draft to keep the prospect pool going, but you can make a more immediate impact by plucking away from other teams a more seasoned player who is more ready now. Hughes while dynamic, he is pretty small. Not sure how well that will elevate. Goudreau has done well for himself with similar measurables, but we will see with Hughes.
Hughes while dynamic, he is pretty small. Not sure how well that will elevate. Goudreau has done well for himself with similar measurables, but we will see with Hughes.
[/quote] That scares me too a bit, he puts himself in bad positions and gets hit hard alot! Kaapo Kahkonen is the #2 prospect who’s been doing very well in the Finnish Elite league and he has an NHL frame of 6’2″ 200+ lbs…It would be a tough call, especially with Hughes being a true centerman…He’s still only 17 years old, maybe he can be the one in his family to get a growth spurt…
Have you not heard the guy has been crying himself to sleep the last few weeks?
I think that was the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard a GM say. What a freaking p#ssy. I wasn’t that sold on Fenton from the get go, but I liked him even less after that line. That just reinforced my belief that he’s a deer in the headlights and his lack of experience is what’s keeping him up at night.
If there’s any good news for the Wild right now, it’s that there will be more than one winner in this year’s draft. Two things have to happen to really get a team-changing pick, you have to have the pick and the right players need to be there. The NHL especially has had some very player-poor drafts, but this year things look very good. Lots of centermen and wings in the top 20.
Lot has been said about Hughes, but Kakko is no booby prize. Some team is going to get a damn fine player there probably at #2, but you never know. I like the sounds of what scouts are saying about that Podkolzin at #3. Big, gritty, loves to get under the skin of the opponents. He wouldn’t be a bad pick. Even at #5 or #6 there are going to be some good centermen available, luckily for the Wild that’s where most of our needs are because this does not appear to be a defense-rich draft.
I think it’s way too early to start fantasizing about getting the #1 pick. What I want to see more than anything are players like Ek, Kunin, Greenway coming into their own in the big league. As bad as the Wild have played, Ek has looked better and he needs to keep improving. And then bring up some Iowa players for some reps and see if we can find some line combos that hold promise for the future.
Just as an aside for the folks out there who go to games, the Wild organization, in general, has impressed me for several years now as just phoning it in when it comes to game day experience. Same old boring gags on the big screen, same music, same lame Gordy with a t-shirt gun that can’t get to half the arena, etc.
Anyone else feel like the Wild game-day experience is stuck in 2003? I mean the Wild finally ADDED an organ guy what 2 years ago? Nice to see them catch up to the other teams that have had the organ guy since 1952…
Grouse
Yes! I’ve noticed the in-arena experience is still stuck in rewind…they just mail it in year after year…
BUT
I watched the Vegas vs Bruins game last night and they still do the same pre-game act every night! Yes it was cool to watch it the very first time, but 41+ games a season, ovey… (at least it appeared that the Knights are getting better at skating)
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Just as an aside for the folks out there who go to games, the Wild organization, in general, has impressed me for several years now as just phoning it in when it comes to game day experience. Same old boring gags on the big screen, same music, same lame Gordy with a t-shirt gun that can’t get to half the arena, etc.
Anyone else feel like the Wild game-day experience is stuck in 2003? I mean the Wild finally ADDED an organ guy what 2 years ago? Nice to see them catch up to the other teams that have had the organ guy since 1952…
Yep. Everything from the players to the overall experience has gotten stale.
On a “Wild management take note”, note, have you guys seen how much fun Carolina is having with the “Bunch of Jerks” thing?
Setting aside the fact that Don Cherry calling Carolina players, or anyone else for that matter, a “jerk”… well…
Apparently, the arena is now full of fans wearing Bunch Of Jerks t-shirts and the home announcers are even referring to the team as “The Jerks”. Supposedly the fans are singing some kind of “jerk” song now? Freaking hilarious.
And you know this has to be headed toward some kind of shot at Don Cherry during the post game celebration.
My point is this is exactly the kind of thing the Wild’s boring ass game day people would never pick up on and run with.
Anybody else remember the “Hoser Cam” when the Jets were in town? Wonder who killed that.
Grouse
The Vegas thing got old for me from the get go, however it is Vegas and I bet a good number of people in the stands are from out of town. Even if they have seen it on TV, it’d be cool in person. That being said they don’t need to televise it anymore.
Even if Fenton was being sarcastic or whatever, it is a very odd thing to say.
Anybody else remember the “Hoser Cam” when the Jets were in town? Wonder who killed that.
some Hoser likely got offended and complained…this world has become soft…
Minnesota nice. It was probably actually a Wild fan who whined
On a “Wild management take note”, note, have you guys seen how much fun Carolina is having with the “Bunch of Jerks” thing?
I saw Nino wearing one of those shirts in a locker room photo. I laughed and cried a little.
I’ve seen the celebrations and it is pretty funny. Don Cherry is a dickhead.
I’ve seen the celebrations and it is pretty funny. Don Cherry is a dickhead.
100%
It’s kind of like the NFL celebrations for me. I used to hate them. Then they made it a penalty and I thought that is a stupid rule. Now the players are unleashed and I like them and can’t wait to judge each one. After all, it’s just entertainment.
Question:
Pierre McGuire, Mike Milbury and Don Cherry are in a boat that is going down and you can only save one and you only have 10 minutes to decide. Who do you save?
Answer:
You go discuss it at the bar with Jeremy Roenick, Mike Emrick and Eddie Olczyk for an hour.
Question:
Pierre McGuire, Mike Milbury and Don Cherry are in a boat that is going down and you can only save one and you only have 10 minutes to decide. Who do you save?Answer:
You go discuss it at the bar with Jeremy Roenick, Mike Emrick and Eddie Olczyk for an hour.
YES!!! 
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