MN Wild 2018-19 Official Thread

  • knoppers
    big lake, backus
    Posts: 65
    #1829490

    just Friday, and already I am having no hockey withdrawels. why have the stupid all star games anymore, there worthless in any sport. its all we need is dubs to give up 15 goals, that’s great for his confindence.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11545
    #1829525

    A terrific game versus the Avs. It’s just so much fun handing Landeskog yet another humiliating loss to the Wild. They’re probably all in group therapy for Wild Frustration.

    Coyle continues his impressive streak, about 10 games now. This has to be closing in on a record for him. But before I hope that this could be the new-new Coyle, let’s remember we’ve been here before. But we can hope this continues.

    Man I really miss Dumba on that blue line. The 5 on 3 power plays against the Avs would have been even more fun with some bombs away Dumba action from the point to inflict even more pain on the Avs. It was just so much fun to watch him. Anyone heard any possible ETA speculation on Dumba’s return?

    Now that we have a few games to evaluate the Fenton 1.0 moves, I give him a C-. Nothing much to be impressed by, nothing much to regret so far. I guess we did free up almost a million in cap space, so possibly a net plus assuming there’s some improvement that can actually be made with it, but if Fenton has a purpose beyond “sending a message” with the Nino trade, it’s not happening so far. Sideways move at best so far.

    Grouse

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
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    #1829608

    The trades seem to have shaken the team up in a positive way, kudos to Fenton. waytogo

    The interesting thing is what other trades were also discussed, and have they been placed on the back burner. The talent gap between the Wild and the top NHL teams is still wider than this team can overcome. maybe they ride out the season and make better changes in the offseason.

    #5’s certainly increased his trade value waytogo

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5747
    #1829614

    I agree the trades seems to have shaken up the team and had a positive effect so far. Also agree we didn’t really upgrade talent but that kind of remains to be seen.

    Isn’t there some fear Dumba may not be back this season?

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1829639

    The interesting thing is what other trades were also discussed, and have they been placed on the back burner. The talent gap between the Wild and the top NHL teams is still wider than this team can overcome. maybe they ride out the season and make better changes in the offseason.

    Does that mean you’re wavering on your 2.5+ trades prediction by the deadline? I’ve been telling you that they’re better off waiting for the off-season. The only kind of trades made at the deadline are rental players and cap offloading deals. The wild are in the market for neither not are they willing to give up key pieces in the playoff race.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
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    #1829708

    Does that mean you’re wavering on your 2.5+ trades prediction by the deadline?

    No, we are now at 1.5 right?
    It would be a bit naive to think that there are not other offers and discussions still going on.

    I’ve been telling you that they’re better off waiting for the off-season.

    I’ve been listening, I just don’t totally agree with you. I think teams looking to,and capable of upgrading their team before the trade deadline,are more likely to give up more during the season than the off season.

    The wild are in the market for neither not are they willing to give up key pieces in the playoff race.

    They already have,and there may be more.

    coffee

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1829714

    No, we are now at 1.5 right?

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>jeff_huberty wrote:</div>
    Over or Under 2.5 trades before the deadline? coffee

    Under.

    To be clear, from today to the deadline. Also, trades meaning trading away current Wild roster players, not just draft picks.

    They’re at 0 in my book.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1829715

    They already have,and there may be more.

    They gave up Nino, based on his play the last 100 games, I wouldn’t call him a key piece.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
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    #1829727

    Brad Hunt trade? Claiming Nashville D Bettiti?
    Possible new set of D as insurance for trading Brodin? Or Spurgeon?

    toast

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1829819

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>jeff_huberty wrote:</div>
    They already have,and there may be more.

    They gave up Nino, based on his play the last 100 games, I wouldn’t call him a key piece.

    .

    Based on the last 100 games you could say the same thing for 6-8 others coffee

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22284
    #1830001

    Brad Hunt trade? Claiming Nashville D Bettiti?
    Possible new set of D as insurance for trading Brodin? Or Spurgeon?

    there is talk that Pateryn is being shopped. I would be surprised though because we just added to Left Shot D men, with Hunt and Bitteto I don’t think we would get rid of another. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Prosser waived. Not sure he provides much value anymore with the recent moves made.
    Brodin has been really solid this year. He doesn’t have much Offensive upside, but he is a really smart player. I would hate to see him go, but he could get a decent return.
    Russo had a nice 1 on 1 with Fenton, it happened just prior to the Vegas game, so the Hunt deal hadn’t been consummated yet, but he cleared pointed a lack of depth in our prospect pool, shocker, and was definitely not interested in deals where we sent picks the other way. He wants “hockey trades” which are exactly what he has done with Kloos and Nino.
    He doesn’t give up much info, but his comments made it seem that he has Leipold’s ear and support for basically whatever he wants to do from pushing to win now to rebuilding, though he doesn’t think “blowing” it up is necessary.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
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    #1830412

    Kaprizov update – scored 2 more goals yesterday (league leading 9th gwg) giving him 23 sofar for the season (2nd in the khl). Search online (khl’s twitter page) to watch the OT goal he scored, the offensive mindset he shows is something NONE if the current Wild players have.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
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    #1831531

    In his fifth transaction in the past two weeks, Paul Fenton has added another defender, acquiring left-shot defensemen Michael Kapla of the New Jersey Devils. Headed back to the Garden State is Iowa right-shot defensemen Ryan Murphy.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17573
    #1831559

    hopefully this is all part of some master plan… oh and Kaprizov had a Goal and 2 assists today )

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22284
    #1831563

    hopefully this is all part of some master plan… oh and Kaprizov had a Goal and 2 assists today )

    Dont temp us with this type of talk, its almost like the meteorologist telling us its going to be in the 40’s this weekend we will get our hopes up.

    I am a little perplexed by all the D moves are left shot?! I do know that Hunt has some flexibility where he can play on the right side, so that is nice, but this is now 3 lefties??? I think this is a good move for Iowa at least for now. Kapla has put up some decent numbers and Murphy has been floundering.

    jeff_huberty
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    #1831576

    I am a little perplexed by all the D moves are left shot?! I do know that Hunt has some flexibility where he can play on the right side, so that is nice, but this is now 3 lefties??? I think this is a good move for Iowa at least for now. Kapla has put up some decent numbers and Murphy has been floundering.

    Kapla swap for Murphy seems a little odd other than just a change of scenery for each might be a benefit. So it does not look like an improvement on the surface, other than to the Iowa Wild. ???
    Or there is something else cooking coming up.
    Still .5 Under the 2.5 but the over now seems to be a given.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1831577

    Still .5 Under the 2.5 but the over now seems to be a given.

    According to my count, still 0.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
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    #1831582

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>jeff_huberty wrote:</div>
    Still .5 Under the 2.5 but the over now seems to be a given.

    According to my count, still 0.

    Would expect nothing less whistling , when your wrong your always right. jester

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1831607

    They have traded away 0 regular MN wild players. Pretty simple.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
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    #1831620

    How could they conduct a trade if they are not MN Wild players?
    Not sure the NHL would allow that, all players have been on the roster before.
    The Five trades seem to indicate Fenton may be planning for the next few seasons and do little for improving the roster for a playoff run this season.

    coffee

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1831627

    Just keep manipulating what I say to make yourself feel better.

    You’re the one that keeps saying this team has no talent and can’t compete with the big dogs. These minor league trades are doing nothing to remove the “talentless” players they have.

    You say he’s setting them up to make a splash later on? Well maybe. It’s a logical thought. I bet against it. And since then they’ve moved 0 regular players.

    jeff_huberty
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    #1831746

    Fenton has five trades on the books all have been part of the Wild Organization and others are now part of the organization, have they Played in the NHL? yes.

    2 Trades since the Over or Under 2.5. Call them what ever fits your Rose colored agenda.
    coffee

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>jeff_huberty wrote:</div>
    They already have,and there may be more.

    They gave up Nino, based on his play the last 100 games, I wouldn’t call him a key piece.

    Your words, Not one of the regulars? whistling
    coffee

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1831748

    You’re really a piece of work.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
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    #1831752

    You’re a piece of work.

    There you go again.

    Not your Words?

    basseyes
    Posts: 2502
    #1831829

    These minor league trades are doing nothing to remove the “talentless” players they have.

    X2!

    Agreed.

    Totally agree with your assessment that Sutter needs his walking papers.

    basseyes
    Posts: 2502
    #1831831

    And since then they’ve moved 0 regular players.

    So there was a stipulation on the o/u on if the trades were regular players or not?

    Can you define “regular”, other than a bowel movement?

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11545
    #1831850

    Well, some minor league swaps and a new contract locking Staylock up for 3 more years. Fenton isn’t exactly shaking up the known universe with big club trades. Fenton talks, but doesn’t really say much in interviews, so it will be interesting to see what else happens.

    Some bigger moves around the league. The Pens just traded for Nick Bjugstad and Jared McCann from the Panthers, but at a pretty steep price giving up Derick Brassard, Riley Sheahan and three 2019 draft picks. I really liked Bjugstad when he was at the U, back when they had a hockey team.

    Will be great to see Wild back in action again tonight. Hope they have jump right from the get-go tonight.

    Grouse

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1831861

    Can you define “regular”, other than a bowel movement?

    Explain to me how any of the recent trades were regular players.

    Ask huberty what the stipulations were. He seems to like digging up old posts so he can take them out of context to jab at others.

    jeff_huberty
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    #1831863

    The over and under 2.5 was a simple benchmark that you choose to change the parameters of.

    It seems to be pretty a simple observation and an example of where the WILD and the Penguins are,
    The Penguins are making moves to win the Stanley Cup this season.
    The Wild are not making moves to win the Stanley CUP this season.
    They are making moves to try and improve in the next few years.

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