MN Wild 2018-19 Official Thread

  • biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1821461

    11 spots from the Bottom of the barrel of all NHL teams. 4 pts from last place.

    And 4 points out of a playoff spot with 2 games in hand on the 8th place team.

    Ok Mr. GM, how are you going to tell ownership that you want to pass on hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue by intentionally missing the playoffs?

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1821465

    And 4 points out of a playoff spot with 2 games in hand on the 8th place team.

    On Outside looking In coffee

    It simply shows the true quality of the league and how the talent gap has widened. All the while the Wild continue to stand pat with a roster that can not play consistently. One game they look good the next several games they take a period or longer off.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1821466

    Dodged the question again, mr president.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1821468

    Dodged the question again, mr president.

    There is no answer needed,or coming. wave

    Just the facts of the current state of the WILD.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16654
    #1821473

    The revenue loss will only hit in future years. This years tickets are sold and paid for so the loss is minimal. As far as future years that depends on how the deals are done and sold to the public. If you trade for future picks (years from now) then you might take a hit. However if you can sell it as a quick re-load I don’t think it would hurt at all.

    I’m talking about regular season seats. Play-offs missed are something else. That would be the conversation between ownership and the general manager when he was hired. The new guy may well have mentioned (or been told) this group will have one chance only to prove it’s self and then a re-build / tear down will happen. We or at least I wasn’t in the meeting so I can’t tell you what the discussion was.

    I think the point being made is the Wild are far closer to missing the play-offs then being a team that is a lock to get in every year. The question is ….is the goal only to get in the play-offs or to actually have a chance to win. Every fan has their own opinion on whats best and there is no proven right answer either way.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1821483

    Play-offs missed are something else. That would be the conversation between ownership and the general manager when he was hired.

    That was my point. This team has made the playoffs the past 6 seasons making ownerships many hundreds of millions of extra dollars. Running the ship aground with the hopes of coming out better is a far bigger risk than trudging along with a highly profitable freightliner it is today. The bandwagon rubes who think this is some sort of game or sport out to win championships at all cost just can’t accept that it is a business to make money. I know, I know, crazy concept.

    I think the point being made is the Wild are far closer to missing the play-offs then being a team that is a lock to get in every year. The question is ….is the goal only to get in the play-offs or to actually have a chance to win.

    And that I respectfully disagree with. Again, their 4 points out with 2 games in hand, who could easily on their way to making their owners and themselves multimillion dollar bonuses.

    Is this team built for a playoff run? Absolutely not. No one here was optimistic about this season going in. In fact, most, if not all here thought it would be a stretch to make the playoffs. Their strong run in November was fun. The collapse in December has been painful.

    Huberty likes to troll in here and poke fun at anyone with anyone saying anything positive about the home team. Maybe he should go follow the Twi… or the Vik… or the T-Wol… or the Goph… or the Brew… or the Pack… or the Blackh… man it’s tough to find a championship contender around here. I guess there’s always the Lynx if he needs a fix for a championship.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17852
    #1821528

    The Wild scored twice, but should have had about 4 or 5 goals with all the chances they had, good road win but there were still plenty of bad mistakes that luckily didn’t cost them…

    Greenway was a force again, Coyle played a good game, but Nino is worthless out there…

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1821533

    The better Coyle plays, the better the chance he gets shipped away. Everyone want to ship away underperforming players but who really wants to acquire one?

    knoppers
    big lake, backus
    Posts: 65
    #1821540

    they had a breakaway and 2 two on ones, with no goals to show for them. there shooting needs work for sure. but good win against a good team on the road. now need to start winning at home.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1821593

    Huberty likes to troll in here and poke fun at anyone with anyone saying anything positive about the home team.

    So why don’t you and your tiny ego tell us what we can say about the home team. Make us a list and we can send our posts to you to edit before they get posted in a thread.
    Would your list cover only your high brow ideals, or are we allowed to comment freely on let’s say for instance.

    Gopher Football?
    Gopher Hockey?
    Packers Football?
    Erin Rodgers?

    let us know what parameters you feel we should be allowed to comment on?
    Better yet you should or organize a thread burning party that you believe the rest of are/ should only be allowed to see.

    Thanks for saving us all Comrade.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1821605

    I’m not saying what you can and can’t comment on. Please show me where you got that idea.

    You just come in here and insult anyone who who says anything positive about the club. If you wanna poke, you’re gonna get poked back.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1821607

    So why don’t you and your tiny ego tell us what we can say about the home team.

    Real classy. Perfect example.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1821613

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>jeff_huberty wrote:</div>
    So why don’t you and your tiny ego tell us what we can say about the home team.

    Real classy. Perfect example.

    You’ll get over it- after all this about hockey right? wave
    Or are you changing the Narrative to your personal views again? coffee

    toast

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1822908

    Since last post, the Wild are 2-1 against top tier teams. Didn’t get to watch much of any of them. They still remain 4 points out of the last playoff spot with 2 games in hand. Unfortunately I don’t see a sell off or a deep playoff run in their future.

    Although, 1 more key injury could put them into a tailspin.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16654
    #1822911

    Or a hot streak could move them into play-off contention. Thats the beauty of hockey in January. Early January at that. wink

    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3784
    #1822936

    That game was a blast to watch today. Going down 1-0 seven seconds in was a downer, as was going down 2-0 several minutes later. They fought back all game and like a lot of their last few games, I thought they had more scoring chances and put more pressure on. Duby also played a pretty good game, last I saw his saves were in the high-30’s and with that offense there were some very good shots. Intense game all the way until the end.

    JoeMX1825
    MN
    Posts: 17852
    #1822941

    I was chanting “lose for Hughes, lose for Hughes” after they were down 2-0 after the first 5 minutes, but they faught back for the win. Toronto did have to start a goalie that had no right starting an NHL game though due to 2 normal goalies being injured, he was absolutely terrible! So I’m taking thier goal output with a grain of salt…

    I really wish they would just reset the next two years and finally get in a good cap situation and some high draft picks, the team base they have now just hasn’t worked out…admit it and start over…

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22783
    #1823025

    Toronto did have to start a goalie that had no right starting an NHL game though due to 2 normal goalies being injured, he was absolutely terrible! So I’m taking thier goal output with a grain of salt…

    Well, Hutchinson has been an NHL goalie for many years so it isn’t like they grabbed some guy from behind the Pharmacy counter, but yes, he isn’t an elite goalie by any means.
    This Wild team is just so hard to understand. They beat two of the best teams in the league (Jets and Leafs) yet lose to the Blackhawks.
    The plus side is they have been playing very well overall, but cannot get the goals. Coyle has been on fire lately and to be honest I am shocked. I have long said that he was better suited at wing and up to this year it has been better for him because playing Center just seemed to be too much for him.
    Since being thrown in at center he has been dominant. Perhaps its his linemates, not sure, but he is noticeably better right now.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1823255

    Cool, Tampa is playing tonight…11pm local time |

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1823288

    Cool, Tampa is playing tonight…11pm local time |

    The talent level on that team is extrodinary.
    I’m in the market for a Kucherof of or McDonagh jersey before the playoffs start.
    How in the world does McDonagh end up there?
    Shrewd GM move toast

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1823427

    Even JT Miller has been serviceable. I am a little nervous with Yzerman moving on. Hopefully the scouts and other advisers who stay on were a big part of Yzermans success and/or he’s training the new GM to think like him.

    He also traded away good players in Namesticof and Druien.

    It’s not all Rosie though with Vasys return. His GAA has soared and S% dropped. Not sure if he’s not 100%. Their scoring is masking it, but he needs to be better or the playoffs will be a big disappointment.

    Brady Valberg
    Posts: 326
    #1823478

    After watching the last few games i wouldn’t be disappointed to see Nino go..along with Coyle. Yes Coyle has played alot better the last few games but for how long? We’ve seen it before. Kunin has been buzzing and had some very good games even tho he doesn’t have the stats to show it. At this point though I feel as though he has more upside that Nino at this point. Hopefully with Coyle playing the way he has been boosts his value. Nino may be a lost cause this year

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11640
    #1823543

    Last 2 games have been Heartburn Hockey at its finest for the Wild. Bruce said in the post game presser that he looked up in the stands in Toronto to see if his mom had left her seat after the Wild gave up the first 2 goals.

    But in the middle of all the usual TMSF moaning, the Wild are actually playing very well. OTHER than giving up the flippin’ first goal every freaking game…

    Coyle centering the Parise/Greenway line is looking really good. BTW, where are all the “Parise’s deal was the worst mistake the Wild ever made” guys these days? He’s got what 18 goals and we’re not at the AS break yet?

    The Wild have been no more inconsistent than any other team this year. Other than a poorly timed slump, I can’t find a lot of individual things to fault in their play. They aren’t selling out on D, our goaltending is what half or more of the league WISH they had, etc, etc.

    Yes, Nino could get going and Coyle could get consistent, and this and that but those things alone are hard to point to as things that are unique to the Wild, every team in the NHL has 2 or 3 players they wish were were performing better right not.

    Bandwagon Boy is shopping for a Bolts sweater. What a shock. Guess I was 100% right on that call. His hockey insight scores a 0 but at least he’s 100% predictable.

    Grouse

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1823581

    Bandwagon Boy is shopping for a Bolts sweater. What a shock. Guess I was 100% right on that call. His hockey insight scores a 0 but at least he’s 100% predictable.

    Whoa, whoa, whoa! Don’t go patting yourself on the back there. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure that one out. The funniest part is that he joined the caps bandwagon AFTER they won a cup.

    For the record, having a top 3 goalie in your division is definitely a good place to be. Unfortunately, this team is super dependent on him playing well, as do many other top tier teams. The only difference lately is that he isn’t stealing any games. I’ve always said good teams need their goalie to steal at least 5 games a season and at least 1-2 games every series during the playoffs.

    I’m not sure what to do with Coyle or Nino so I don’t have much to say about it other than I’m good with giving Nino up for a 3-4th round draft pick. He hasn’t played well for at least 12 months now.

    If this team keeps up this level of play, doesn’t lose any other key players to injury and gets Dumba back before the playoffs, it could be an interesting playoffs for them. That’s a long ways away right now though.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1823624

    Great game tonight Chicago vs Pittsburg. 6 out of the past ten stanley cup winners.

    toast

    basseyes
    Posts: 2511
    #1823638

    If you put a middle of the pack net minder on this team, they wouldn’t come anywhere close to the playoffs. To say he doesn’t steal games is a copout for a very mediocre, lukewarm team at best. If and that’s a big if, this team somehow gets it together to get to the playoffs, I have little doubt they’ll make anything interesting happen, especially if seeded against a higher end team in crunch time when you have to string great play, against good teams for extended, pressure cooker times. I hope they make the playoffs and win a first round series, but the odds of that happening aren’t what I’d call even marginal right now.

    Ahh, wait…best team ever, glad we have ZP, he’s great, RS is great, everything is great and rosy, nothing needs to change except Coyle needs to go and we need better net minding cause he’s not good enough. Now I feel like I know more about hockey because Coyle stinks and it’s all on the goalie to steal more games, then we would be a real playoff contender.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1823650

    Great game tonight Chicago vs Pittsburg. 6 out of the past ten stanley cup winners.

    toast

    Which jersey did you wear? Or did you wait to put one on until after the game was over?

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1823666

    Which jersey did you wear? Or did you wait to put one on until after the game was over?

    Da Bears waytogo

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1823691

    They have been consistently in the bottom 1/3 of the Leauge I’ll give you that.
    If this or if that ? whistling

    The facts are the facts, and the record shows how inconsistent the wild have been this season. The same team/roster that failed in the playoffs for the past several seasons. doah

    You have to remember that this team rolls on streaks,losing streak then winning streak,then losing streak. Now 2 games in a row woot
    At best they are increasing their possible trade value when the time comes and that time is coming soon. The next ten games will be crucial to the direction this team takes. One All star on the entire roster, pretty good evidence right there on where this team stands talent wise.

    Dubnyk probably carries the most trade value,followed by Stall, maybe Coyle.
    They may also get offers for Brodin that might make sense to move him.

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